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JonInMiddleGA
12-24-2007, 10:14 PM
so you're pretty much agreeing with me then?

Heh, yeah I guess so, although my post didn't exactly start out that way in my head ;)

The difference being that I'm not sure we can even look forward to the good stuff that happened with the WCW cruiserweight division since TNA has managed as often as not to screw up those too. Now, if we get something really good, it seems like it's as much by accident as anything.

DaddyTorgo
12-24-2007, 11:01 PM
can't say that I watch enough TNA to be able to agree or disagree.

oh, just came across this series of interviews as my youtubing led me to them

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JbBgxUEWu4s

it's a 5-part (50 minute or so) interview with Kevin Nash by rfvideo.com

Schmidty
12-27-2007, 07:13 PM
I just watched the Christmas RAW, and I thought it was very touching. I guess I'm a rube. Not cynical enough according to my friends.

Oh well.

DeToxRox
01-02-2008, 09:57 PM
hxxp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=12wRbugqgGY

NSFW AT ALL

This is the most surreal thing ever. From the shoot interview with New Jack, Iron Shiek and The Honkey Tonk Man (Yes you read it right), they discuss Chris Benoit. Unreal.

Toddzilla
01-03-2008, 07:40 AM
FWIW, that's some *classic* Iron Sheik right there. That dude is bonkers.

Ryche
01-03-2008, 06:43 PM
For those who haven't heard, Maria is posing in Playboy.

Happy New Year!

Neon_Chaos
01-04-2008, 12:08 AM
Noooooooooooooooo.

Her biggest appeal was that we actually haven't seen her boobies.

Toddzilla
01-04-2008, 06:51 AM
Her biggest appeal was that we actually haven't seen her boobies.Er.....Ummmm...

appeal...no boobies...appeal...

erg...ack...

DOES NOT COMPUTE

bulletsponge
01-04-2008, 10:23 AM
does she have fakies? i dont recall her having a huge fake set on her

Neon_Chaos
01-04-2008, 11:03 AM
does she have fakies? i dont recall her having a huge fake set on her

I don't think she's ever had 'em done.

Neon_Chaos
01-04-2008, 11:05 AM
Er.....Ummmm...

appeal...no boobies...appeal...

erg...ack...

DOES NOT COMPUTE

:)

It's better to leave things to the imagination sometimes.

wade moore
01-06-2008, 08:28 AM
FYI - I hxxp'd.. not because of the images, but because of the site.

Toddzilla
01-06-2008, 08:42 AM
hxxp://img188.imagevenue.com/view.php?image=96961_rawscriptp_122_168lo.jpg

hxxp://img181.imagevenue.com/view.php?image=96950_7f34f325_122_176lo.jpg

hxxp://img13.imagevenue.com/view.php?image=96954_9da39716_122_887lo.jpg

hxxp://img105.imagevenue.com/view.php?image=96959_48575c8c_122_1154lo.jpg

hxxp://img213.imagevenue.com/view.php?image=96960_Picture009_122_143lo.jpg

ummmmmm....WTF?

AZSpeechCoach
01-06-2008, 01:07 PM
Not working :(

Terps
01-06-2008, 01:20 PM
Did you change the hxxp to http? Working for me.

AZSpeechCoach
01-06-2008, 01:23 PM
I guess it doesn't like cutting and pasting :)

Edit: Okay...I'm just getting random pictures of women. No script.

Toddzilla
01-06-2008, 01:34 PM
I guess it doesn't like cutting and pasting :)

Edit: Okay...I'm just getting random pictures of women. No script.Yep - same here - not sure what a photo of Christina Ricci has to do with Arn Anderson, but I guess you can use your imagination :)

Terps
01-06-2008, 01:48 PM
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e283/IronMan2632/script1.jpg

Toddzilla
01-06-2008, 04:22 PM
That's pretty cool, but so far after the fact, couldn't that just be a recap someone wrote to look like a run sheet?

JonInMiddleGA
01-06-2008, 07:47 PM
Awesome Kong = best TNA hire since Christian

Terps
01-06-2008, 11:08 PM
Here's the rest of the links for the other parts of that script:

hxxp://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e283/IronMan2632/script2.jpg (http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e283/IronMan2632/script2.jpg)
hxxp://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e283/IronMan2632/script3.jpg (http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e283/IronMan2632/script3.jpg)
hxxp://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e283/IronMan2632/script4.jpg (http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e283/IronMan2632/script4.jpg)
hxxp://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e283/IronMan2632/script5.jpg (http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e283/IronMan2632/script5.jpg)

molson
01-12-2008, 12:52 PM
Wrestling Observer says the Big Show is back, and is ready to go right now.

I'm guessing he'll be a surprise entrant in the Royal Rumble. After pushing Jericho's return for months, hopefully they've learned their lesson and he'll just show up.

bulletsponge
01-21-2008, 09:23 PM
"why buy the cow when you have someone let you milk them for free?" Santino is pretty funny

Joe
01-21-2008, 09:25 PM
"why buy the cow when you have someone let you milk them for free?" Santino is pretty funny

well he screwed up that saying. he should have said why buy the cow when you can have the sex for free.

Joe
01-21-2008, 09:26 PM
Wrestling Observer says the Big Show is back, and is ready to go right now.

I'm guessing he'll be a surprise entrant in the Royal Rumble. After pushing Jericho's return for months, hopefully they've learned their lesson and he'll just show up.

I'd hold off on him until after the rumble. It might just make him look weak since he obviously wouldn't win it.

JonInMiddleGA
01-22-2008, 05:14 PM
I had almost forgotten about this but ...

New reality series premieres tonight at 9pm & 930pm on TLC The Bussey Bunch.
It follows a family-owned indy promotion in Texas, PCW, or more precisely it follows the family that owns it. Apparently Lance Hoyt was a regular there & will appear in some episodes.

http://www.thebusseybunch.com/
http://www.busseybunch.com/
http://www.pcwwrestling.com/

molson
01-23-2008, 01:59 PM
I don't think anyone saw this one coming - Bobby Lashley is either gone from the WWE, or is publically trying to get out of his contract on his personal website, according to PWInsider:

"Former ECW champion Bobby Lashley, who was expected to return from his injuries this month, has parted ways with World Wrestling Entertainment, according to Lashley's official website.

Lashley, who debuted with the Smackdown brand in 2005, moved to the ECW brand in December 2006 with the idea that the brand would be built around him. He received a huge promotional push and won the ECW belt at the December to Dismember PPV.

WWE's push continued featuring Lashley going right a Wrestlemania 23 headline match against Umaga with Donald Trump and Vince McMahon as their respective seconds which was promoted heavily to the media due to Trump's involvement and the hair vs. hair stipulation that saw McMahon shaved bald in the center of the ring.

On the forum of his official website, www.BobbyLashleyOnline.com, Lashley commented, "Circumstances, which are out of my control left me no decision but to leave the WWE. I can't go into details of this now but like I said before, sometimes people will hate you personally and try to destroy you, which has happened here. Evil has prevailed. However like I said before, if you continue your struggle, doors will open around these people. You have not seen the last of me, so please don't stop your support. Add Bobby Lashley to the list of RECENTLY RELEASED!"

Lashley teased a potential MMA interest on 1/16, writing, "I am not sure what I will be doing the next few months. I said I am in fighting shape because if I am not wrestling, I will be fighting. Wrestling is my passion but sometimes things are out of your control. The time off I've had was well needed and was not in vain. I had surgery in August, which was pretty serious. I had to have 5 connectors put in my shoulder to repair my torn labrum. I was slated to be out for 6 months but I think that diagnosis was for an average person. I’m ready for action and I have been for some time now. Whatever action that may be, I will be ready."

Lashley noted that he had just purchased a home in Parker, Colorado and that he expected WWE to acknowledge the release by the end of the week. Word of his departure made its way around the WWE locker room at tonight's Smackdown and ECW taping. As of this writing, he is still listed on the Raw brand's roster page."

JonInMiddleGA
01-23-2008, 07:38 PM
Just a reminder (since I apparently forgot & missed the premiere last week myself), the NWA now has a national television show of sorts ...
NWA Showcase airs Wednesday nights at 9p eastern on ColorsTV (ch.9407) on Dish Network.

In the first episode last week:
-- TJ Perkins (aka Puma) d. Ikuto Hidaka
-- NWA World Tag Champs "The Real American Heroes" Karl Anderson & Joey Ryan run in & attack Perkins, but Los Luchas (Zokre & Phoenix Star) make the save, only to be taken care of themselves by NWA World Champ Adam Pearce
-- Anderson & Ryan d. Los Luchas in an "NWA Flag Match". Bad guys retain with help from both their evil manager & the world champ
-- Ricky Vega (aka "Machete") squashes Cassidy O'Brien
-- Main Event (and no, I'm not making this up, remember what network we're on here): El Hijo del Santo & Rey Mysterio, Sr d. Blue Demon, Jr. & Nicho (aka Psicosis) when Demon low blows Rey Sr & gets the pin.

Tonight is supposed to be The Young Bucks (Nick & Matt Jackson) vs Black Tiger IV(aka Rocky Romero) & Cobra 2, Sean Denny vs Bryan Danielson, and Adam Pearce vs X-Pac (aka the man for whom "X-Pac heat" was named)

JonInMiddleGA
01-23-2008, 08:35 PM
Good grief, this NWA program is really bad.

It looks like it was shot with a handy cam, the commentary is extremely weak, they seem to have no idea what to do in terms of pacing for the show. The gap between the (hypothetical) best of the NWA versus ROH seems enormous.

LMAO ... my son has been looking forward to this for months & is sitting here pretty stupified by how bad this has been but while I'm typing he just hit the line of the night so far. In this incredibly flat dry voice he says "oh good ... it's steroid-induced announcer Rob Conway". Guess you had to be there, but it was pretty funny live.

PilotMan
01-23-2008, 10:41 PM
Last night on ESPN Classic (I think it was classic) they showed some UWF matches from god knows when. Bob Orton, Cactus Jack, Don Muraco. It was pretty good stuff. Looked like they were filming it in some hotel ballroom.

miami_fan
01-24-2008, 07:47 PM
For those that are interested

http://www.miamiherald.com/675/story/390731.html

BY DORY FUNK JR.
For The Miami Herald
My final match in wrestling will occur Saturday, March 1 at Sumo Hall In Tokyo. It will be as real and memorable as Feb. 11, 1969, the day that changed my life forever, when I won the NWA title from Gene Kiniski.

My thanks to Keiji Mutoh, president of All Japan Pro Wrestling (and also known as Great Muta in WCW), for hosting my final wrestling match. I would also like to thank the wrestling fans in Japan who have remained with me for so long and have never forgotten the good times we shared.

I have so many memories of wrestling in Japan including my first overseas defense of the NWA title in December 1969 against Antonio Inoki that went to a one-hour draw and a second match against Mr. Inoki that also went to a one-hour draw. A third match was scheduled in 1972. However Mr. Inoki chose to leave the company rather than face me for the NWA title. He started his own company, New Japan Pro Wrestling, leaving me to face Seiji Sakaguchi.

In 1973, Giant Baba formed his own company, All Japan Pro Wrestling. His associate for booking of American wrestling talent was my father, Dory Funk Sr. Mr. Baba sent his prize recruit, Japanese national champion and Olympic amateur wrestler Jumbo Tsuruta, to Amarillo, Texas for training in professional wrestling.

Tsuruta became one of my best students, returning to All Japan Pro Wrestling as one of its greatest stars.

I have memories of famous wrestling matches in Japan including Giant Baba, Jumbo Tsuruta, Genichiro Tendryu, Jack Brisco, Billy Robinson and Rob Van Dam. Also, Terry (Funk) and myself against Abdullah the Butcher and the Original Sheik on the way to becoming three-time Real World League tag team champs.

I also will never forget All Japan Pro Wrestling's 20th anniversary six-man tag team main event as Giant Baba, Stan Hansen and myself faced Jumbo Tsuruta, Terry Gordy and Andre the Giant in what would be Andre the Giant's last match.

Now comes the 35th anniversary of All Japan Pro Wrestling. Masanobu Fuchi, one of my students, is the only wrestler who has been with the company from the beginning.

Osamu Nishimura, originally trained by the late, great Hiro Matsuda, came to the Funking Conservatory, where I train wrestlers, after Matsuda passed away. Nishimura asked that I be his teacher. He will be my partner in many of my matches on my last Japan tour, leading to my final match at Sumo Hall.

My final wrestling match on Saturday, March 1 will mark the end of 67 years of the name Funk performing in the ring as a professional wrestler. However, for me, March 1, 2008 will mark a new beginning. My wife, Marti, and I will devote full-time to the training of professional wrestlers, the stars of the future.

• Dory Funk Jr. is a wrestling legend who trains wrestlers and runs shows at the Funking Conservatory in Ocala, Fla.

The next taping of !BANG! TV comes to the Funking Conservatory at 7 p.m. Sunday, Jan. 27. Tickets to the show, training schedules and information on the upcoming Japan tour are available at dory-funk.com or call 352-895-4658.

JonInMiddleGA
01-24-2008, 09:15 PM
Okay, TNA is gonna get some heat for the new Shark Boy gimmick but to tell you the truth, I thought it was pretty funny. It'll get old pretty quick I imagine but still, it made me laugh (as opposed to the dismal sketches last week to set all this up).

Meanwhile, Curry Man made his TNA debut at this week's tapings but looking at the pictures linked from here (http://www.tnawrestlingnews.com/headlines/203224371.shtml) I don't believe that's Daniels doing the gimmick at the moment. Check out the hair visible under the edge of the mask. My first thought was Sabin but I think my son was right when he said the eyes didn't look like him either so ... any ideas who is under the mask?

Toddzilla
01-25-2008, 07:55 AM
Well, Daniels shaves his head, so he certainly *could* have grown some hair...

Regardless, it's goofy enough to be entertaining so long as the guy can work a little, and it seemed that he could last night.

JonInMiddleGA
01-25-2008, 08:46 AM
Well, Daniels shaves his head, so he certainly *could* have grown some hair...

Yeah, but unless he's using that stuff Bugs Bunny put on Elmer Fudd, I don't think he could grown that much length in the relatively short time he's been off television.

Regardless, it's goofy enough to be entertaining so long as the guy can work a little, and it seemed that he could last night.

Oh it was the highlight of the show for us here (or was supposed to be) being big fans of Daniels & knowing how much he's used the gimmick elsewhere & all.

DeToxRox
01-27-2008, 09:43 PM
Royal Rumble spoiler .. Unreal.

#30 in the Royal Rumble is .. JOHN CENA

DeToxRox
01-27-2008, 09:45 PM
AND #30 WINS! WOW

Jas_lov
01-27-2008, 09:51 PM
Damn it. I was hoping they'd give Hornswoggle the title shot that he deserves.

DeToxRox
01-27-2008, 09:53 PM
Dude was supposed to be out another 3-4 months. He's a warrior. Of course knwoing Vince he might not have been hurt at all.

JonInMiddleGA
01-27-2008, 10:03 PM
Damn it. I was hoping they'd give Hornswoggle the title shot that he deserves.

Eh, even if he got the shot & won, everybody knows it would be a short title run.

PilotMan
01-27-2008, 11:43 PM
It's too bad, he came up just short.

Neon_Chaos
01-28-2008, 01:14 AM
Wow. Just. Wow.

Oh well.

molson
01-28-2008, 01:33 AM
Stealing this thought from another board, but I loved how Cena got a GIGANTIC pop, until the NYC fans realized they were supposed to be all smarky and boo him.

JonInMiddleGA
01-30-2008, 08:30 PM
from tnawrestlingnews.com

After one week, TLC has cancelled "The Bussey Bunch," a reality show on a family running the PCW Wrestling independent promotion out of Arlington, Texas. Last night's originally scheduled episode didn't air last night because TLC had already cancelled the program. The debut episodes of "The Bussey Bunch" on TLC scored ratings of 0.25 and a 0.26 for the 9:00 p.m. and 9:30 p.m. showings. TNA star Lance Hoyt appeared on the show as that's his main indy promotion besides TNA.

Maple Leafs
01-31-2008, 08:50 AM
Soo... Cena suffers a torn pec, recovers four months early, and comes back just as big as he was before, and we're all OK with this?

I'll go along with it, just let me know.

jbergey22
01-31-2008, 11:23 AM
Soo... Cena suffers a torn pec, recovers four months early, and comes back just as big as he was before, and we're all OK with this?

I'll go along with it, just let me know.

Actually he recoved 9 months early because he chose a riskier procedure. How did you expect him to come back? He is there number one draw.

Neon_Chaos
01-31-2008, 11:53 AM
I hope they don't fuck up the build to Mania.

No Way Out suddenly became a buyable PPV. :)

2 Title Matches, 2 Elimination Chamber Matches. Who goes on to Mania? :)

finketr
01-31-2008, 12:07 PM
what're the second title and elimination chamber matches?

Neon_Chaos
01-31-2008, 12:47 PM
Matches were made on the Smackdown taping.

from hxxp:\\lordsofpain.net

WWE Title Match
Randy Orton vs. John Cena

World Title Match
Edge vs. Rey Mysterio

RAW Elimination Chamber Match
Winner Receives WWE Title Shot At Wrestlemania
Triple H vs. Shawn Michaels vs. Jeff Hardy vs. JBL vs. Umaga vs. Chris Jericho

Smackdown Elimination Chamber Match
Winner Receives World Title Shot At WrestleMania
Big Daddy V vs. The Great Khali vs. Finlay vs. MVP vs. The Undertaker vs. Batista

Flair Career-Threatening Match
Ric Flair vs. Mr. Kennedy

JonInMiddleGA
01-31-2008, 12:48 PM
what're the second title and elimination chamber matches?

Here ya go, from the Smackdown that airs later this week

Elimination Chamber for the right to face the WWE Champion at WM24: Undertaker vs Batista vs MVP vs Finlay vs Khali vs Viscera.
Also, Edge vs Mysterio for the WWE title at No Way Out

Neon_Chaos
01-31-2008, 12:50 PM
I.

beat you.

to it!

To be the man.

You gotta.

BEAT.

THA MAN.

WHOOOOO!

Maple Leafs
01-31-2008, 03:13 PM
Actually he recoved 9 months early because he chose a riskier procedure. How did you expect him to come back? He is there number one draw.
Not sure. It's just odd that somebody could tear a pec, come back early, and not lose any mass.

He must have a really good trainer.

JonInMiddleGA
01-31-2008, 08:51 PM
"Sharkboy 24:7 says I just bit your ass"

Hehehehe.

I'm easily amused

finkenst
01-31-2008, 11:01 PM
Matches were made on the Smackdown taping.

from hxxp:\\lordsofpain.net

WWE Title Match
Randy Orton vs. John Cena

World Title Match
Edge vs. Rey Mysterio

RAW Elimination Chamber Match
Winner Receives WWE Title Shot At Wrestlemania
Triple H vs. Shawn Michaels vs. Jeff Hardy vs. JBL vs. Umaga vs. Chris Jericho

Smackdown Elimination Chamber Match
Winner Receives World Title Shot At WrestleMania
Big Daddy V vs. The Great Khali vs. Finlay vs. MVP vs. The Undertaker vs. Batista

Flair Career-Threatening Match
Ric Flair vs. Mr. Kennedy

welll...
this certainly explains why i was so confused.

JonInMiddleGA
01-31-2008, 11:08 PM
Am I just brainblanked that it surprised me to see Rena Mero is Brock Lesnar's wife?

General Mike
02-01-2008, 01:34 PM
Not sure. It's just odd that somebody could tear a pec, come back early, and not lose any mass.

He must have a really good trainer.

Or really good drugs.

molson
02-01-2008, 01:40 PM
Or really good drugs.

I'm not Dr. Phil Austin or anything, but wouldn't steroids be a legal part of rehab for a injury like that?

I could care less either way though. Wrestling's not a competitive sport for god's sake.

Neon_Chaos
02-01-2008, 02:00 PM
I'm sure Congress has better things to do than review performance enhancing drug usage in a non-competitive pseudo-sport with predetermined winners.


...or do they?

JonInMiddleGA
02-08-2008, 11:04 AM
Interesting, and somewhat confusing to me. It's not as though the CW has much in the way of hit shows, Smackdown has been their highest rated show other than Next Top Model.

NEW YORK — Pro wrestling is getting smacked down by the CW network.

The long-running "Friday Night Smackdown" won't be airing on the CW this fall, the network and World Wrestling Entertainment said late Thursday. In separate announcements, they stated that "after a successful decade of `Smackdown,'" they had agreed to conclude their partnership after the 2007-08 season.

No reasons were offered.

WWE added that it began talks with other networks after the CW's exclusive period to negotiate a renewal ended Jan. 31. Although no details were disclosed for a possible new home for the show, candidates might include NBC Universal, whose USA cable channel already carries "WWE Raw," and MyNetworkTV, where some affiliates aired "Smackdown" when they were UPN stations.

The two-hour "Smackdown" premiered on then-fledgling UPN in fall 1999 as strategic counterprogramming on Thursdays. "Smackdown" gave UPN a foothold on that night of bruising prime-time competition, but even as a ratings contender, it proved to be a sometimes uncomfortable fit with UPN's image.

When UPN, owned by CBS, merged with Warner Bros.' WB in 2006, "Smackdown" seemed no less out of place on the resulting CW network.

___

saldana
02-08-2008, 11:49 AM
I'm not Dr. Phil Austin or anything, but wouldn't steroids be a legal part of rehab for a injury like that?

I could care less either way though. Wrestling's not a competitive sport for god's sake.

yes...they absolutely would, as long as they are legally prescribed in amounts that do not support abuse.

JonInMiddleGA
02-09-2008, 07:10 PM
Sounds like the TNA PPV in Greenville has turned into a near disaster for them, with less than 1500 tickets actually sold. They've resorted to "papering" the crowd with comps and are still reportedly having problems (literally unable to give the tickets away, although trying to give them to Bi-Lo corporate contacts probably meant they were missing their audience anyway).

It's pretty obvious they missed the price point badly, as the $150 price pretty much killed them. Similar problems happened with the event last year outside Atlanta but were helped by pretty good walk-up sales & some group purchases in the final week or two. But how bad is the PR from giving away dozens or even hundreds of tickets that someone else paid anywhere from $79 to $225 for? I'd feel pretty screwed if I was the sucker who paid the top dollar. Meanwhile though, early sales in Norfolk for the March PPV are running well ahead of expectations. Different markets, different price tolerance, which most people could have told them well ahead of the results.

And, also meanwhile, the bill that would kill all pro wrestling in Georgia was introduced in the legislature earlier this week & the committee behind it all has pretty much blown off the very recommendations they requested from the industry. Looks like this is a done deal barring a miracle (which happened to save the business here a few years back). And that leaves SC as the nearest location for wrestling for me, so the dismal response to the TNA event has more concerned that it would otherwise.

JonInMiddleGA
02-09-2008, 09:07 PM
http://www.tnawrestlingnews.com/headlines/204617800.shtml

Report by TNAWrestlingNews.com Staff on 02/09/2008 at 09:37 PM

As noted earlier tonight here on TNAWrestlingNews.com, former WWE and TNA star "Razor Ramon" Scott Hall has apparently taken up WWE's rehab offer after a recent breakdown in Puerto Rico. We reported that Hall is staying at the same rehab center former WWE star Jake "The Snake" Roberts is currently situated at, which is in Atlanta.

Also, Dave Meltzer is reporting that current WWE RAW star Ron 'Farooq' Simmons has also taken up WWE's rehab offer. Simmons is currently staying at a rehab center in Atlanta (we believe it's the same facility that Hall and Roberts are currently at).

Flasch186
02-09-2008, 09:32 PM
what rehab offer? To former employees?

finkenst
02-09-2008, 09:40 PM
what bill in the legislature?

JonInMiddleGA
02-09-2008, 09:49 PM
what bill in the legislature?

Best coverage of this is probably at http://www.georgiawrestlinghistory.com/gaec/home.html

There's links there for the full set of rules proposed, as well as information about the committee that promoters were asked to form to make improvements to the new rules (which the entertainment commission has since failed to even read & has their original rules introduced to be passed into law later this month).

Basically it's a set of state board rules & regulations that treat pro wrestling as though it were a legitimate competitive event such as boxing or MMA and includes provisions that raise the cost of promoting an event far beyond what any independents could ever hope to come close to and to a point that both the WWE and TNA have already said would prevent them from even considering Georgia for any future events.

JonInMiddleGA
02-09-2008, 09:50 PM
what rehab offer? To former employees?

Apparently. To be honest, this was the first I'd heard of it.

duckman
02-10-2008, 12:29 AM
Apparently. To be honest, this was the first I'd heard of it.
It's a program set up by the WWE last year just before the Benoit tragedy. Basically, any wrestler who has ever been under contract with the WWE is eligible for treatment for alcohol and/or drugs with the WWE paying for the entire treatment.

JonInMiddleGA
02-10-2008, 07:08 PM
Meanwhile, I'm glad to see that B.G. & Bullet Bob are playing the patriotic heroes against those evil foreigners Tomko & A.J.

Oh. Wait ...

I swear, does anybody with a clue actually look at the scripts before this stuff airs?

Meanwhile, it looks like they managed to paper the crowd sufficiently to at least fill most of the bottom section, but the sudden increase in audio to cover the quiet nature of the crowd was awfully obvious.

edit to add:
Armstrongs vs Tomko/Styles - odd finish, not any of the ones anybody expected at least in terms of how they got there

JonInMiddleGA
02-10-2008, 08:07 PM
"Gore !"

Maple Leafs
02-10-2008, 08:21 PM
"Gore !"
No politics in the wrestling thread, please.

JonInMiddleGA
02-11-2008, 08:04 AM
All in all a kind of peculiar PPV last night.

Most of the results were as expected -- Angle retained, Tomko/Styles retained, Kong retained, Lethal recaptured the X Division title -- but a lot of the routes taken to the results were different than expected.

-- No Kip James turn, instead it's a B.G. injury
-- Kong wins, but has to get outside help to do it
-- Dudleys lose & the X Division is saved, but it's via a virtuoso performance by Lethal and minimal input by the Machine Guns. Considering they're the top selling merchandise in the company and they're featured on the advance promotion for the next PPV, having them disappear last night seems like an odd choice
-- Angle wins with interference ... from Tomko ! WTF? And that's after a Red Bull speed sequence of attempted interferences that saw involvement by Karen, Joe, a ref bump, and A.J. all to bring us to that point.
-- Booker & Roode was indecisive with a countout finish in the parking lot, one that probably weakens Booker without really putting Roode over as a threat (although he's at least a little more heelish)
-- Steiner wins thanks to a distraction by his newest freak, a 6'2" former WWE trainee. I guess TNA found the "Amazon sized attractive black female" they were reportedly looking for. Probably didn't have to look too hard, since she has worked with Kong in Japan recently.
-- Abyss wins, although I'd call the barbed wire match pretty lackluster.
-- Eric retains the drinking title. Naturally he does so in a wrestling match. Obviously the next step would be to determine a wrestling title with a drinking contest ... and since Rhino returned last night that isn't out of the realm of possibility.

And in the next couple of weeks we can look forward to Kurt & Karen renewing their wedding vows and (reportedly) a NASCAR match complete with NASCAR drivers both in the ring & on commentary.

Yeppers. Must see TV there.

General Mike
02-11-2008, 08:45 AM
It's a program set up by the WWE last year just before the Benoit tragedy. Basically, any wrestler who has ever been under contract with the WWE is eligible for treatment for alcohol and/or drugs with the WWE paying for the entire treatment.

Actually it was after the Benoit tragedy.

And in other news, The planned Juan Pablo Montoya vs. Reed Sorenson match of NASCAR drivers for tomorrow's taping and Thursday's Impact is off.

Instead, Sorenson will manage Chris Sabin, while Montoya will manage Homicide, in a three-way with Jimmy Rave. Hermie Sadler and Jimmy Spencer will commentate.

NO BUYS

JonInMiddleGA
02-11-2008, 09:19 AM
Thank GOD for that spoiler.

molson
02-11-2008, 10:12 PM
If TNA isn't the "wrestling alternative" what the hell is it's purpose? RAW once again delivered a main event (Michaels/Hardy) that trumps anything going on with TNA.

Who are they trying to appeal to? Fans who long for the days of the WCW circa 2000?

Wrestling needs an alternative, but that alternative needs to give us something the WWE is not. TNA just isn't doing that, it's putting on a crappy, low-rent version of the WWE.

JonInMiddleGA
02-11-2008, 11:25 PM
If TNA isn't the "wrestling alternative" what the hell is it's purpose?

To stroke the egos of Carter, Jarrett, Russo, and Mantel apparently.

Even worse, maybe, is what appears to be the new company tag line that debuted after the end of the PPV last night -- TNA Wrestling: Cross The Line

What line would that be exactly?
Logical booking? Clean finishes? Focus on wrestling instead of sideshows?

jbergey22
02-12-2008, 02:14 AM
If TNA isn't the "wrestling alternative" what the hell is it's purpose? RAW once again delivered a main event (Michaels/Hardy) that trumps anything going on with TNA.

Who are they trying to appeal to? Fans who long for the days of the WCW circa 2000?

Wrestling needs an alternative, but that alternative needs to give us something the WWE is not. TNA just isn't doing that, it's putting on a crappy, low-rent version of the WWE.

That Michaels/Hardy match was a great one tonight. Its a great thing when a guy like HBK will put over the next in line superstars. This win could make Hardy a legitimate Main Eventer.

molson
02-12-2008, 09:51 AM
That Michaels/Hardy match was a great one tonight. Its a great thing when a guy like HBK will put over the next in line superstars. This win could make Hardy a legitimate Main Eventer.

Hardy now has clean TV wins over HHH and HBK in the last 2 months. I never thought they'd trust him with a main event spot, but he's there.

SirFozzie
02-12-2008, 02:07 PM
TNA taped what I might consider to be the most bizarre segment I've seen in a while for the end of this week's Impact. That's saying something..


-Kurt Angle comes out with his best man , AJ Styles, who seems like he doesn't want to be there and has his shirt undocked etc. Karen comes out with Jeremy Borash and The Angle's daughter leading the way. The ring is setup with white flowers and no ring ropes etc. The preacher is an old guy with glasses. He begins by asking them all the questions and at one point when he asks if anyone wants to object AJ kind of raised his hand but JB told him to put them down. Joe and Nash come out to interrupt and get payback for what Angle did earlier. Joe comes down and he shoves AJ who lands on top of Karen. JB takes the daughter and leaves the ring. Nash and Joe double team Angle and strip him from the tuxedo all the way to his boxers. During the scuffle, the preacher's glasses are knocked off and AJ is helping Karen to her feet in front of the podium. The preacher without his glasses then says "I now pronounce you husband and wife, you may kiss the bride!" AJ seems excited and gives Karen a kiss. Karen realizes what happens and freaks out. Angle stands on top of the ramp and looks down in disbelief. Crowd chanted "Karen Styles" and Kurt tried chasing AJ to the back.

Flasch186
02-12-2008, 02:09 PM
sounds fun.

molson
02-12-2008, 02:12 PM
That actually happened at my cousin's wedding. It took 2 attorneys to sort it all out.

SirFozzie
02-12-2008, 02:17 PM
(is half tempted to take molson's comment seriously, by his location ;))

Neon_Chaos
02-28-2008, 07:45 AM
http://alkaspace.com/usr/1227/floydhitbigshow.gif

Toddzilla
02-28-2008, 09:53 AM
That kicks ass.

JonInMiddleGA
03-10-2008, 09:08 PM
I don't think Mayweather is getting heel heat, I think Mayweather is getting X-Pac "get the hell out of my ring you non-wrestler" heat.

DeToxRox
03-10-2008, 09:11 PM
Big Show gets a tremendous pop sending Floyd flying.

molson
03-10-2008, 09:11 PM
I don't think Mayweather is getting heel heat, I think Mayweather is getting X-Pac "get the hell out of my ring you non-wrestler" heat.

This angle hasn't been done very well, which is disappointing, since WWE has been on a streak of good celebrity utilization (K-fed, Trump, Steve-O).

But the biggest travesty of the night is all of us getting robbed of the Shiek/Volcoff v. Windham/Rotundo Wrestlemania I rematch. I'm sure WWE's insurance wouldn't cover the Iron Shiek or something, but I'm still pissed off.

JonInMiddleGA
03-10-2008, 09:41 PM
Hmm ... wonder why Batista is suddenly so much smaller than he used to be?

Also, speaking of "celebrity" appearances, gotta love the backstage story about Fairplay propositioning Shelly Martinez for, umm, a "three way dance" last night in Norfolk.

molson
03-11-2008, 08:33 AM
Jeff Hardy screws up the biggest push of his career

http://www.wwe.com/inside/news/jeffhardysuspended

Flasch186
03-11-2008, 08:37 AM
referring back to last week:

Ive have been growing more and more impressed with Maria. her Mic skills are excellent, her acting was above average for WWE, and her look is evolving. Of all the girls I think she is doing the best job and Santino is a proven mic artist so keeping them together for some time may be a bonus.

Maple Leafs
03-11-2008, 08:38 AM
Hardy -- wow, what a maroon.

DeToxRox
03-11-2008, 08:48 AM
according to PWI the Show/Floyd segment was almost a riot when Floyds posse tried showing how tough they were and the wrestlers went after them. Shane was legit knocked down and pissed off backstage. there is a lot of heat with Floyd and his crew

saldana
03-11-2008, 01:34 PM
Hmm ... wonder why Batista is suddenly so much smaller than he used to be?



same thing with Kennedy, Orton, and even HHH, IMO

JonInMiddleGA
03-11-2008, 10:08 PM
Looks like Georgia has dodged another legislative bullet, as the state Senate passed an alternate bill that removed most of the unworkable provisions of a proposal that would pro wrestling under the control of the former boxing commission. It calls for a $20/year license for wrestlers & proof of a basic physical, and still allows blood as long as they've got current certification saying they have no communicable diseases.

Here's the wrestling take on the story. (http://www.pwinsider.com/ViewArticle.php?id=29686&p=1)

And included in today's legislative recap (http://www.ajc.com/metro/content/metro/stories/2008/03/11/legnotebook_0312.html?cxntlid=homepage_tab_newstab)is some of the mild chuckles about the bill's passage (including a comment from the sponsor that "wrestling is as real as the Rules Committee")

Neon_Chaos
03-12-2008, 02:57 AM
I think that the brawl on RAW may have just saved the Mayweather - Big Show feud.

molson
03-12-2008, 11:32 AM
same thing with Kennedy, Orton, and even HHH, IMO

Isn't this a good thing? People are phrasing this as a criticism of past steroid use, but between this and the Hardy suspsension, it seems like the WWE has a more effective substance abuse policy than any of the major sports (and especially ROH or TNA, who don't do anything).

JonInMiddleGA
03-12-2008, 11:33 AM
Isn't this a good thing?

I don't think it's so much meant to be criticized as a "bad thing" as it is such striking visible evidence of how significant a difference the usage was for some of the guys.

Flasch186
03-12-2008, 11:40 AM
I don't think it's so much meant to be criticized as a "bad thing" as it is such striking visible evidence of how significant a difference the usage was for some of the guys.

exactly. It's a fast visual.

DeToxRox
03-12-2008, 11:47 AM
Thuurrsday at 9 I believe ROH Rise Against is onInDemand. It costs between ten and fiften bucks and is the best wrestling PPV you will probably see this year. Morishima vs Danielson is a WAR. If you can check it out its defintely worth the money.

cartman
03-19-2008, 12:43 PM
RIP, Playboy Gary Hart. He was one of the old school Wrestling managers that brought the old World Class Championship Wrestling and the "World Famous Sportatorium" onto the national scene.

http://www.statesman.com/news/content/gen/ap/TX_Obit_Williams.html

JonInMiddleGA
03-27-2008, 08:45 PM
Oopsie.

No sooner do I read a little blip online about the WWE warning their roster to not be seen in public associating with any of the TNA roster than we get a crowd shot of some of the "celebrities" in the crowd for the first live Impact, starting with someone identified as "Derek Graham-Couch". Okay, I drew a blank, but we would know him (at least slightly) better as Robbie McAlister of The Highlanders.

Kind of rough to do that to a guy.

Meanwhile, just saw Tigers reliever Joel Zumaya in the crowd.

DeToxRox
03-27-2008, 08:46 PM
This TNA live show is pretty tough to watch. Booker T looks good but the matches have been average and that Karen Angle interview was PAINFUL.

JonInMiddleGA
03-27-2008, 08:48 PM
This TNA live show is pretty tough to watch. Booker T looks good but the matches have been average and that Karen Angle interview was PAINFUL.

Yeah, they aren't handling this particularly well. Thought it was interesting to note earlier that more votes had been cast on the women's title shot than on the Roode/Booker stipulation. That follows a trend of the women's division providing the highest rated segment of the show ever since Kong showed up.

DeToxRox
03-27-2008, 09:00 PM
This whole Angle segment is a waste of time too.

tucker rocky
03-30-2008, 03:06 PM
Is Wrestlemania worth a view this year?

I didn't watch last year, as in my opinion, no "must see" matches.

PurdueBrad
03-30-2008, 03:10 PM
I'm not a wrestling fan anymore but I do plan on getting Wrestlemania (IF Comcast every posts it as available to buy) for the Big Show/Giant vs. Mayweather. I know its a gimmick but I'm curious to see Floyd in the ring.

JonInMiddleGA
03-30-2008, 04:26 PM
Just ordered WM for the first time in my life.

Strictly a Flair thing for me, although my son wanted to see the MITB as well.

Neon_Chaos
03-30-2008, 04:38 PM
WRESTLEMANIA motherf*ckers!

WHOOOO!

I can't wait. :)

Neon_Chaos
03-30-2008, 04:42 PM
I hope it rains. That would be wicked awesome.

tucker rocky
03-30-2008, 04:49 PM
Well, I've forked over the $55+change for this year's Wrestlemania.

Interesting to see the gimmick match: Show/Mayweather, although I think this might end in a DQ. No way Mayweather risks his boxing career.

MITB Ladder matches are always fun to watch, to bad Jeff Hardy f'ed up on the wellness policy, he'd pull off a 30ft high ladder move or some other crazy stunt. Jericho wins this match though.

Triple threat match: HHH will become the new champion. I'm tired of Orton and Cena. HHH as champion is a much better fit.

Flair/HBK Shawn Michaels: I expect a classic matchup. HBK wins.

Edge/Undertaker: Vince will go with the dragonslayer, give UT 1 last title run.
UT decides if his streak goes on or ends, Vince allows the streak to go on.
Interesting note though: UT is on the Backlash poster, ppv after WM.

Bastista/Umaga: DQ finish. To easy to predict.

There are other matches, but I only predicted the popular ones.

tucker rocky
03-30-2008, 04:52 PM
I hope it rains. That would be wicked awesome.

That would make for a very nice Bunny match, we would get: wet t-shirt contest.

Don't think it'll rain though.

JonInMiddleGA
03-30-2008, 04:58 PM
from pwinsider.com a few minutes ago
Lee Petry and Mike Johnson just sent word from Orlando that it's currently drizzling at the Citrus Bowl.

The AccuWeather forecast still calls for rain in the 7 o'clock hour and clearing thereafter.

That was from 4:45pm. At 5:30 Dave Scherer posted that the sun had come back out.

tucker rocky
03-30-2008, 04:59 PM
Alright folks its 1 hour to WM, 6 pack of beer waiting, 150 miles to Orlando(from Jacksonville), hit it.

JonInMiddleGA
03-30-2008, 05:31 PM
Free 24 man battle royal on www.com now

Flasch186
03-30-2008, 05:54 PM
Alright folks its 1 hour to WM, 6 pack of beer waiting, 150 miles to Orlando(from Jacksonville), hit it.

huh? You got an extra tix? :)

tucker rocky
03-30-2008, 06:22 PM
huh? You got an extra tix? :)

Only a quote my friend.

DeToxRox
03-30-2008, 06:46 PM
Amazing. Since IWA-MS I have been a CM Punk mark. Much deserved tho the MVP of that match was Morrison. Jesus christ.

tucker rocky
03-30-2008, 06:56 PM
Mick Foley and Snoop Dogg, funny segment.

tucker rocky
03-30-2008, 06:57 PM
Amazing. Since IWA-MS I have been a CM Punk mark. Much deserved tho the MVP of that match was Morrison. Jesus christ.

Didn't know Morrison had that kind of move in him.

tucker rocky
03-30-2008, 07:01 PM
Why is that William Regal pronounces Umaga, as Umanga?

JonInMiddleGA
03-30-2008, 07:27 PM
Why is that William Regal pronounces Umaga, as Umanga?

Because he's a foreigner?

(seriously, I have no idea why other than it's part of Regal's character that he occasionally talks funny)

JonInMiddleGA
03-30-2008, 07:56 PM
.:(

Maple Leafs
03-30-2008, 08:05 PM
For those watching, how's the outdoor setting working? Any weather? Is crowd noise coming across OK?

Schmidty
03-30-2008, 08:08 PM
.:(

What happened? Why the frown?

DeToxRox
03-30-2008, 08:11 PM
And the lights go out. I am impressed everyone kept working throughout that considering they're inexperiened divas.

Schmidty
03-30-2008, 08:13 PM
Description of things like that would be greatly appreciated. I have no idea what you're talking about.

JonInMiddleGA
03-30-2008, 08:16 PM
I used the :( because I didn't see the one with the tears.
3rd superkick was the charm for HBK & a tearful Ric Flair is done.

Although in wrestling I suppose no retirement is ever truly final.

JonInMiddleGA
03-30-2008, 08:19 PM
Outdoor setting has been largely neutral IMO, at least for those watching at home. Apparently, according to the dirt sheets, there's quite a bit of obstructed view for those in the arena because of the various rigging for the stage, lights, canopy over the ring, etc.

And the "lights out" reference up the thread was about a sudden problem of some sort that sent the ring area totally black for maybe 10-15 seconds because some secondary lights kicked in. You could see in the darkness that the divas basically kept working right through it & didn't miss a spot. As DeTox said, that was pretty darned impressive considering who was in the ring at the time, very professional reaction on their part.

DeToxRox
03-30-2008, 08:21 PM
I won't lie. Undertakers entrance in this venue will be AMAZING.

UT/Edge will be closing the show it seems as Cena/Orton/HHH is up now. Show/Mayweather is after.

DeToxRox
03-30-2008, 08:22 PM
According to PWTorch, HHH had to get involved planning Show vs Mayweather as Floyd isn't grasping a worked match.

Maple Leafs
03-30-2008, 08:22 PM
I'm looking at two sites for results. One has Flair/Michaels as five-stars, the other says it wasn't anywhere near what was hoped for. Thoughts?

Maple Leafs
03-30-2008, 08:23 PM
According to PWTorch, HHH had to get involved planning Show vs Mayweather as Floyd isn't grasping a worked match.
Well, I guess we know the smaller guy isn't going over.

DeToxRox
03-30-2008, 08:26 PM
I'm looking at two sites for results. One has Flair/Michaels as five-stars, the other says it wasn't anywhere near what was hoped for. Thoughts?

Loved it. It was as perfectly booked, plus I think HBK cracked or broke ribs early on a botched moonsault spot. Table didn't break the right way at all. It was an amazing wrestling match though. The story unfolded perfectly.

Maple Leafs
03-30-2008, 08:30 PM
Cool.

When Flair explained that he wanted to do the job because it made sense for business and there was no point worrying about who won or lost in a worked sport, do you think Michaels' head exploded?

JonInMiddleGA
03-30-2008, 08:31 PM
I'm looking at two sites for results. One has Flair/Michaels as five-stars, the other says it wasn't anywhere near what was hoped for. Thoughts?

Good question, I watched it & I'm still not sure what I'd call it.

Plenty of near falls, no lack of effort or drama, some good storytelling, the obligatory spots were hit and some extra ones too (a darned good missed moonsault by HBK right through the announcer's table). But it wasn't Flair/Steamboat by any remote stretch of the imagination either.

I think expectations (or fondest hopes) were too high for this. I'd probably say all the drama might kick it up to a 4-star if I let my emotions kick in but realistically right now I'd say it was 3.5 if it were anyone other than Flair.

edit to add: After reading DeTox's comments, I'm brought back to something I was pondering a little while typing my own reply. I'm not sure how in the hell star ratings really apply to matches anymore given the dramatic difference in match styles today. I mean trying to compare this match to a Danielson or Morishima match or this weekend's Dragon's Gate guys at ROH in Orlando ... it's barely the same thing.

Maybe all you can fairly do is grade them on what they wanted to accomplish or tried to accomplish.
If I take that approach then this was easily a 4-star, maybe 4.5. I can't give a 5-star simply because I never really had any doubt about how it was going to end, and without that I don't think you can really get to perfection.

Maple Leafs
03-30-2008, 08:34 PM
I think expectations (or fondest hopes) were too high for this. I'd probably say all the drama might kick it up to a 4-star if I let my emotions kick in but realistically right now I'd say it was 3.5 if it were anyone other than Flair.
Yeah, certainly no reason to expect Savage/Steamboat when one guy is pushing 60 years old. But this was one of those matches that could have been punches and kicks if the story and fan response made it seem special. Did it feel like a big deal?

JonInMiddleGA
03-30-2008, 08:39 PM
Did it feel like a big deal?

Like one of the two biggest matches in the history of modern professional wrestling.

And only "one of" because I'll grudgingly acknowledge the importance of Andre-Hogan.

JonInMiddleGA
03-30-2008, 08:43 PM
Since I gather all bets are off as far as spoilers are concerned ... Orton steals a pin & retains.

Pedigree on Cena by Trips, Orton comes in with a kick to the head & falls on top of Cena for the win.

Meanwhile, is showing Undertaker in the promo for Backlash the best move in terms of not telegraphing the end of tonight's main event?

SirFozzie
03-30-2008, 08:45 PM
Well, way to pick up a thread from like eight months ago (the Orton Punt of doom)

tucker rocky
03-30-2008, 08:45 PM
Since I gather all bets are off as far as spoilers are concerned ... Orton steals a pin & retains.

Boooo!

Tired of Orton and Cena.

Really wanted HHH to win it.

Oh well, more of Orton's B.S.

Maple Leafs
03-30-2008, 08:48 PM
Orton going over is a smart move. If they play it out, they can have a decent Cena vs. HHH fued for the title shot, and make some money at Summerslam.

Explains why the match was on so early. What's left, just Mayweather and Undertaker/Edge?

DeToxRox
03-30-2008, 08:48 PM
Good question, I watched it & I'm still not sure what I'd call it.

Plenty of near falls, no lack of effort or drama, some good storytelling, the obligatory spots were hit and some extra ones too (a darned good missed moonsault by HBK right through the announcer's table). But it wasn't Flair/Steamboat by any remote stretch of the imagination either.

I think expectations (or fondest hopes) were too high for this. I'd probably say all the drama might kick it up to a 4-star if I let my emotions kick in but realistically right now I'd say it was 3.5 if it were anyone other than Flair.

edit to add: After reading DeTox's comments, I'm brought back to something I was pondering a little while typing my own reply. I'm not sure how in the hell star ratings really apply to matches anymore given the dramatic difference in match styles today. I mean trying to compare this match to a Danielson or Morishima match or this weekend's Dragon's Gate guys at ROH in Orlando ... it's barely the same thing.

Maybe all you can fairly do is grade them on what they wanted to accomplish or tried to accomplish.
If I take that approach then this was easily a 4-star, maybe 4.5. I can't give a 5-star simply because I never really had any doubt about how it was going to end, and without that I don't think you can really get to perfection.

My personal favorite matches that are "5 star" are ones with great stories. Dragons Gate Six Mans are amazing, but not the best stories. My personal favorites that I deem five star had amazing stories. HBK vs UT - first HIAC, Benoit vs HBK vs HHH, Angle vs HBK I, Punk vs Joe II and III, etc.

DeToxRox
03-30-2008, 08:49 PM
Orton going over is a smart move. If they play it out, they can have a decent Cena vs. HHH fued for the title shot, and make some money at Summerslam.

Explains why the match was on so early. What's left, just Mayweather and Undertaker/Edge?

Yeah which is a good decision. Have a shit show clusterfuck sandwhich two good matches.

JonInMiddleGA
03-30-2008, 08:51 PM
This has the makings of an all-time classic trainwreck.

I really hope Mayweather decides to try to shoot & Wight ends his career.

DeToxRox
03-30-2008, 08:52 PM
This has the makings of an all-time classic trainwreck.

I really hope Mayweather decides to try to shoot & Wight ends his career.

Rumor is there is some big surprise to end the match. I could see it being Hogan or someone coming out and slamming Show and Floyd pins him.

JonInMiddleGA
03-30-2008, 08:53 PM
Rumor is there is some big surprise to end the match.

Considering they just dropped money during his intro, maybe it's Pacman :D

DeToxRox
03-30-2008, 08:54 PM
Considering they just dropped money during his intro, maybe it's Pacman :D

LOL. Well played.

JonInMiddleGA
03-30-2008, 08:57 PM
WTF is Mayweather wearing? It looks like he's wearing Big Show's trunks.

DeToxRox
03-30-2008, 09:01 PM
It is crazy how tiny Mayweather looks compared to show. I love the fact Shows trying to break Floyds hands.

DeToxRox
03-30-2008, 09:02 PM
Floyds manager is so annoying. "You can't be doing that"

JonInMiddleGA
03-30-2008, 09:03 PM
The manager "he can't be doing dat" is classic stuff ... although I'm not entirely sure how much of it is unintentional comedy.

DeToxRox
03-30-2008, 09:04 PM
Floyd needs a new posse. Aren't posses supposed to help you when you're being killed?

DeToxRox
03-30-2008, 09:04 PM
LOL "We out". This manager needs to get hired full time.

JonInMiddleGA
03-30-2008, 09:05 PM
"We out"?

Meanwhile my son just predicted Rey Rey as the interference.

JonInMiddleGA
03-30-2008, 09:06 PM
That guy is like a cross between T-Lo & Julius Smokes.

JonInMiddleGA
03-30-2008, 09:08 PM
Chair shots + brass knucks equal KO for Mayweather.

And now I scratch my head, wondering why you sacrifice a wrestler who was actually over with the crowd in order to give a one-off celebrity a win. Let's face it, the WWE doesn't exactly have all that many people who are really over right now, they might have actually been able to do something with Show for a while off this.

DeToxRox
03-30-2008, 09:08 PM
That wasn't awful. It wasn't good but really it was entertaining at times.

DeToxRox
03-30-2008, 09:09 PM
Chair shots + brass knucks equal KO for Mayweather.

And now I scratch my head, wondering why you sacrifice a wrestler who was actually over with the crowd in order to give a one-off celebrity a win.

Vince has NEVER booked Show right. Heyman has been the only guy to ever book Show correctly, imo.

SirFozzie
03-30-2008, 09:10 PM
even on streaming, it's pretty clear that whiffed.

Maple Leafs
03-30-2008, 09:14 PM
And now I scratch my head, wondering why you sacrifice a wrestler who was actually over with the crowd in order to give a one-off celebrity a win. Let's face it, the WWE doesn't exactly have all that many people who are really over right now, they might have actually been able to do something with Show for a while off this.
a.) It may have been part of the deal. No win, no Floyd.
b.) An angry giant leads to some pretty decent possibilities

molson
03-30-2008, 09:15 PM
Meanwhile, is showing Undertaker in the promo for Backlash the best move in terms of not telegraphing the end of tonight's main event?

Posters and promos have proven to be a VERY poor predictor of that show's main event. It isn't uncommon for a guy to be featured in an early ppv poster/promo and he doesn't even end up on the event.

DeToxRox
03-30-2008, 09:16 PM
This entrance isn't failing to deliever at all. This is amazing.

JonInMiddleGA
03-30-2008, 09:19 PM
a.) It may have been part of the deal. No win, no Floyd.

You say that as though it would have been a bad thing.

SirFozzie
03-30-2008, 09:23 PM
BTW Jon, I thought it actually prestaged a Undertaker LOSS in tonight's main event... "For every loss.. there is a BACKLASH". (IE, the UT loses tonight, rematch at Backlash)

Schmidty
03-30-2008, 09:24 PM
Orton going over is a smart move. If they play it out, they can have a decent Cena vs. HHH fued for the title shot, and make some money at Summerslam.

I wouldn't care who won that match, since I'm a big fan of both of them. Cena haters suck.

JonInMiddleGA
03-30-2008, 09:26 PM
BTW Jon, I thought it actually prestaged a Undertaker LOSS in tonight's main event... "For every loss.. there is a BACKLASH". (IE, the UT loses tonight, rematch at Backlash)

Obviously you're paying closer attention than me. I actually didn't even notice the content of the voiceover.

JonInMiddleGA
03-30-2008, 09:28 PM
Thing I can't figure out with the Cena haters is why they wanted HHH over Cena. I mean, if the Cena hate is for a relatively limited moveset & a bad gimmick shouldn't there also be hate from the same contingent for Trips stroke being greater than his skill set?

FTR, I'm reasonably neutral on Cena & don't have major hate for HHH either, just saying I'm not sure how one gets perceived better than the other.

Schmidty
03-30-2008, 09:33 PM
Thing I can't figure out with the Cena haters is why they wanted HHH over Cena. I mean, if the Cena hate is for a relatively limited moveset & a bad gimmick shouldn't there also be hate from the same contingent for Trips stroke being greater than his skill set?

FTR, I'm reasonably neutral on Cena & don't have major hate for HHH either, just saying I'm not sure how one gets perceived better than the other.

I just think it's an internet wrestling "hipster" thing. People think they're cool by disliking him, because they perceive Cena as being shoved down their throat, when in reality, he actually deserves to be. He has the most charisma since the Rock, imo. On the mic, there's currently no one better in the WWE (other than the old stand-bys like HH, HBK, Flair, and maybe Kennedy).

JonInMiddleGA
03-30-2008, 09:34 PM
Am I the only person who feels like they're watching Smackdown right now?

SirFozzie
03-30-2008, 09:36 PM
yeah. Coach and Cole don't have that "OMG" to their voices.. that next level that Styles and Ross can do.

JonInMiddleGA
03-30-2008, 09:37 PM
This should have been quite a bit down the card, they've even managed to kill the crowd.

Classic bad card layout, all the emotion was early, the crowd is burned out at this point.

molson
03-30-2008, 09:40 PM
Thing I can't figure out with the Cena haters is why they wanted HHH over Cena.



It's been a while since HHH was champion. Those same people were definitely hating HHH in 2003.

JonInMiddleGA
03-30-2008, 09:45 PM
One thing I've enjoyed tonight is the improved pickup by the in-ring mics.

DeToxRox
03-30-2008, 09:47 PM
Took a while but now the crowd's back into.

Also .. Charles Robinson can fly.

tucker rocky
03-30-2008, 09:49 PM
Hell yeah, The slayer of dragons, and the streak rolls on at WM!

Schmidty
03-30-2008, 09:55 PM
Please tell me the Underloser didn't win a again........

tucker rocky
03-30-2008, 09:57 PM
Took a while but now the crowd's back into.

Also .. Charles Robinson can fly.

Miami Dolphins could use a speed burner like Charles Robinson. :D

SirFozzie
03-30-2008, 09:57 PM
Please tell me the Underloser didn't win a again........


The undertaker won.. again. :)

tucker rocky
03-30-2008, 09:58 PM
Please tell me the Underloser didn't win a again........

The slayer of dragons won, the streak rolls on.

Deattribution
03-30-2008, 09:59 PM
Wrestlemania really has become just a spectacle and not much else. Other than Flair's match, nothing is settled, nothing is changed, nobody is elevated and there'll be a rematch of every important match by tomorrow or the next PPV.

tucker rocky
03-30-2008, 09:59 PM
Please tell me the Underloser didn't win a again........

Also this is WM, UT doesn't lose, never has.

Schmidty
03-30-2008, 10:01 PM
That's unfortunate. :(

His time needs to come to an end. I am beyond tired of him. I'm not saying that others are dumb for liking him, but I just can't stand him. Never have.

Schmidty
03-30-2008, 10:01 PM
Also this is WM, UT doesn't lose, never has.

Oh, trust me, I know.

Raiders Army
03-30-2008, 10:05 PM
The Undertaker rules.

Maple Leafs
03-30-2008, 10:06 PM
Wrestlemania really has become just a spectacle and not much else. Other than Flair's match, nothing is settled, nothing is changed, nobody is elevated and there'll be a rematch of every important match by tomorrow or the next PPV.
Every year I think "this is the last year they can get away with putting on a Backlash PPV that's the exact same lineup as Wrestlemania", and every year I'm wrong.

tucker rocky
03-30-2008, 10:16 PM
I knew in the back of my mind Edge would lose because, he had always escape the wrath of UT. All of Edge's associates had been put in UT's submission hold, which UT used to win. By watching the build-up to this match, I just knew UT winning was a can't miss, dead-on prediction.

tucker rocky
03-30-2008, 10:22 PM
Every year I think "this is the last year they can get away with putting on a Backlash PPV that's the exact same lineup as Wrestlemania", and every year I'm wrong.

WM is the 1 and only ppv I'll order and watch.

DeToxRox
03-30-2008, 10:24 PM
Personally I thought the ME was awesome. Started slow but ended awesomely.

Toddzilla
03-30-2008, 10:59 PM
Just got back from the Nats home opener - never heard a crowd louder in my life than after Zim's walkoff -WOW. Anyway...

First thing I did when I got home was turn on the DVR and FF to the Flair match. I've been a Flair mark for 30 years and knew this day would come. It has been kinda sad watching Flair in the ring for a few years now, but when he needs to bring it, he brings it. You gotta figure of all the people he could hand pick for his final match, it would've been Michaels, and tonight showed why. Just an amazing match from beginning to end absolutely overflowing with psychology, emotion, and history.

Taken in a vacuum, as mentioned before, the match wasn't one of the best matches of all time by a long shot. But JimGA has is exactly right - in context it was amazing. That's what's so cool (to me anyway) about pro-wrestling. You take a physical event and it's multiplied in significance and impact by the ability of the wrestlers to tell a story. No one has ever been better at it than Ric Flair, and he told his life story in the ring tonight. My favorite moment was Flair coming off the top rope and finally connecting - how cool was that?!? Sean Michaels was the perfect opponent and it all came together on the biggest stage in wrestling history. I would have loved to see Arn Anderson somewhere close by (Blanchard and Dillon too for that matter - what a moment that would have been, the 4 Horsemen run out to save Flair's career and he waves them off?) but otherwise it was wrestling perfection. Rather, sports-entertainment perfection. And that's good enough for me.

Five stars in my book, easy.

molson
03-30-2008, 11:06 PM
Wrestlemania really has become just a spectacle and not much else. Other than Flair's match, nothing is settled, nothing is changed, nobody is elevated and there'll be a rematch of every important match by tomorrow or the next PPV.

They've done to death the "rising babyface star wins his first world title at Mania" over the last few years, to me it was kind of nice to give that a rest. And there wasn't really any great candidates for that spot this year.

Mota
03-31-2008, 04:46 AM
I just think it's an internet wrestling "hipster" thing. People think they're cool by disliking him, because they perceive Cena as being shoved down their throat, when in reality, he actually deserves to be. He has the most charisma since the Rock, imo. On the mic, there's currently no one better in the WWE (other than the old stand-bys like HH, HBK, Flair, and maybe Kennedy).

You're kidding, right? The whole reason that the crowd hates him so much is because of his LOUSY mic work and terrible gimmick, all the while he was being pushed to the moon.

I mean, for 1-2 years all he did as a face was come out, do some cheesy rap about sexual organs / farts / being gay, and then would win the match. That's great for my 4 year old son who just loves fart jokes, but for the 18-30 year old male demographic that's booing, we come to expect more from a wrestler than that.

Sure, he's abandoned that gimmick (and then took on an equally cheesy patriot gimmick ... SALUTE!) but I think the only thing that could wipe that from people's minds is a full heel turn. Everybody but 13 year old girls are booing him anyways so why not do it?

Schmidty
03-31-2008, 05:04 AM
You're kidding, right? The whole reason that the crowd hates him so much is because of his LOUSY mic work and terrible gimmick, all the while he was being pushed to the moon.

I don't think we're watching the same Cena, because I totally and utterly disagree. Maybe I'm not cool enough, and should spend more time on wrestling messageboards so that I can "learn" what is good and bad. Until then, I'll judge for myself.

I will say one thing: Turning him heel would be a great idea. I think all of the enlightened experts in the crowd booing him would be so confused, that their heads would explode.

SirFozzie
03-31-2008, 07:13 AM
35 people had minor injuries due to a fireworks accident at the end of the show:

http://www.wftv.com/news/15748647/detail.html

JonInMiddleGA
03-31-2008, 07:50 AM
You're kidding, right? The whole reason that the crowd hates him so much is because of his LOUSY mic work and terrible gimmick, all the while he was being pushed to the moon.

But that goes right back to my comment about HHH, who also had a lousy history, but maybe as someone pointed out today's crowds just have short memories.

Personally I see quite a bit of improvement over the admittedly horrendous early Cena. He's still not a guy I'd pay to see but he's not so bad now that he forces me to change the channel either.

molson
03-31-2008, 08:13 AM
You're kidding, right? The whole reason that the crowd hates him so much is because of his LOUSY mic work and terrible gimmick, all the while he was being pushed to the moon.



Have you seen his PPV main events over the last 18 months or so? He really has turned a corner. It started with his feud with Edge, when he was getting horrible fan reactions, and the obvious move would have been to turn him heel. And in reality, he WAS a heel at that time based on fan reaction. The boos were acknowledged and incorporated into his character. His character, despite what the internet will tell you, has continued to evolve over the years.

But after those great matches with Edge, Umaga, Michaels, etc, the crowd came back. Did you hear his pop at MSG at the Royal Rumble? It's no longer accurate that "everyone boos him except 12 year olds".

Maple Leafs
03-31-2008, 09:52 AM
Did you hear his pop at MSG at the Royal Rumble?
That was such a bizarre moment -- the crowd popping huge until they remembered they're supposed to be cool and boo him.

Flasch186
03-31-2008, 10:10 AM
That was such a bizarre moment -- the crowd popping huge until they remembered they're supposed to be cool and boo him.

I think he laughed at them too on that.

Neon_Chaos
03-31-2008, 12:08 PM
It's amazing that only 3 faces won in their matches at WM this year. :)

Neon_Chaos
03-31-2008, 12:08 PM
Well, 4, if you count Kane. But we can't, really.

DeToxRox
03-31-2008, 06:01 PM
Ric Flair tribute on RAW tonight. JJ Dillon and Tully are at the arena, and Windham and Double A work for the company so expect the 2nd best incarnation of the Horsemen together tonight

molson
03-31-2008, 07:35 PM
so expect the 2nd best incarnation of the Horsemen together tonight

That's not possible if Paul Roma's not in the building.

JonInMiddleGA
03-31-2008, 08:04 PM
Let the booing begin (aka Cena opens the show) ... err, maybe not.
(they played Cena's intro then followed it with HHH's)
eh ... maybe not that either, 'cause now it's Orton's music and Orton.

Mota
03-31-2008, 08:42 PM
I don't think we're watching the same Cena, because I totally and utterly disagree. Maybe I'm not cool enough, and should spend more time on wrestling messageboards so that I can "learn" what is good and bad. Until then, I'll judge for myself.

I will say one thing: Turning him heel would be a great idea. I think all of the enlightened experts in the crowd booing him would be so confused, that their heads would explode.

The percentage of "smarks" at WWE house shows is tiny. You can't blame it on the message board smarks. I've been to a ton of shows, and I can bet that 99% of them don't go any deeper than wwe.com

Problem is that they pushed him in a way that the fans did not accept. And when they didn't accept his "face rapper" gimmick they booed him. And when they didn't accept his "marine" gimmick they booed him. And then he got more serious and his wrestling skills kept developing ... he does have charisma and does deserve to be a main event player. But the crowd still feels bitter about things and chooses to continue booing him.

Don't hate the fans just because they have an opinion. I'd much rather the crowd have a say as to who they cheer and who they jeer, rather then being mindless sheep that cheer for whoever McMahon says to. Thankfully that's not the case, otherwise Bobby Lashley would be the WWE champ with Great Khalil as the #1 contender.

JonInMiddleGA
03-31-2008, 09:15 PM
LMAO, Khali confronts Big Show, crowd follows the obligatory "You can't wrestle" chant with "Show's gonna kill you" (ala Samoa Joe).

Maple Leafs
03-31-2008, 09:16 PM
Don't hate the fans just because they have an opinion. I'd much rather the crowd have a say as to who they cheer and who they jeer, rather then being mindless sheep that cheer for whoever McMahon says to. Thankfully that's not the case, otherwise Bobby Lashley would be the WWE champ with Great Khalil as the #1 contender.
Generally, I agree with you. But in the case of Cena, the whole booing thing really feels like its on the same level as fans still yelling "what?" during interviews. It's something people feel like they're supposed to do, even though they don't know why.

DeToxRox
03-31-2008, 09:17 PM
Big Show seems like he'd be cool as hell to go party with.

JonInMiddleGA
03-31-2008, 09:17 PM
But in the case of Cena, the whole booing thing really feels like its on the same level as fans still yelling "what?" during interviews. It's something people feel like they're supposed to do, even though they don't know why.

I tend to agree with this take, based on the anecdotal evidence of never having met a single non-smark who actively disliked Cena.

DeToxRox
03-31-2008, 09:18 PM
dola

Cena has become "cool" to boo as has been said above. The guy is as competent in the ring as Rock or Austin in their peak runs in the WWF. He has good Main Event brawls and is amazing as a face in peril. What more can you ask of a guy? The crowd is ALWAYS reacting, whether good or bad. It isn't like they just don't care like what happened during Ortons first title run.

JonInMiddleGA
03-31-2008, 09:20 PM
Big Show seems like he'd be cool as hell to go party with.

I really have to hand it to the guy, I think he's developed his non-ring abilities about as much as any worker I can recall watching. Where he is now in terms of acting ability (for lack of a better catch all phrase) versus where he started borders on amazing to me. And by the accounts I've read it's very intentional on his part & the result of no small amount of effort.

DeToxRox
03-31-2008, 09:21 PM
LOL!

Santino is fucking amazing.

CU Tiger
03-31-2008, 09:59 PM
4-Horsemen
For all of mcMahon's screw ups
They got this right

JonInMiddleGA
03-31-2008, 10:04 PM
I'm 'bout ready to squall like his daughter did last night.

JonInMiddleGA
03-31-2008, 10:07 PM
Either live or on tape, every living NWA World Champion from '81 to '91 has appeared except Sting, Tatsumi Fujinami, and Ron Garvin.

Rich1033
03-31-2008, 10:08 PM
Really a great showing for Ric Flair. Perfectly done.

molson
03-31-2008, 10:15 PM
Either live or on tape, every living NWA World Champion from '81 to '91 has appeared except Sting, Tatsumi Fujinami, and Ron Garvin.

Though we did see the Garvin stomp earlier.

Unbelievable segment.

digamma
03-31-2008, 10:17 PM
Either live or on tape, every living NWA World Champion from '81 to '91 has appeared except Sting, Tatsumi Fujinami, and Ron Garvin.

That's awesome. I might have to see if they have a west coast feed. Haven't watched wrestling in years, but I can probably count the number of Saturday night shows I missed on channel 17 from 1982 or so to 1990 on one hand.

molson
03-31-2008, 10:21 PM
That's awesome. I might have to see if they have a west coast feed. Haven't watched wrestling in years, but I can probably count the number of Saturday night shows I missed on channel 17 from 1982 or so to 1990 on one hand.

RAW airs on tape 9-11 on the west coast, so you have plenty of time to check it out.

VPI97
03-31-2008, 10:24 PM
I haven't paid a lot of attention to wrestling for a while, but I had to tune in tonight to see Flair...can someone tell me the connection between him and a few of the guys that came out though? Specifically, Batista, Cena & Jericho....recent angles? or just backstage friends?

BYU 14
03-31-2008, 10:29 PM
4-Horsemen
For all of mcMahon's screw ups
They got this right

Agreed, very nice send off for the Nature Boy.......Made me feel old though.

The only guy missing was Dusty Rhodes.

molson
03-31-2008, 10:29 PM
I haven't paid a lot of attention to wrestling for a while, but I had to tune in tonight to see Flair...can someone tell me the connection between him and a few of the guys that came out though? Specifically, Batista, Cena & Jericho....recent angles? or just backstage friends?

Batista: A member of the "evolution" stable, a modern knock-off of the four horseman than included Flair, Batista, Orton, and HHH. In storylines, Flair has remained an occasional mentor of Batista.

Cena: The theme was "people wanting to say thank you", so it made sense for the current biggest star in the WWE to do so. One thing I like about Cena is his ability to pull that spot off without making the moment about him.

Y2J: Not sure. That was the one that seemed off. I guess the WWE just wanted to make him seem like a big star.

DeToxRox
03-31-2008, 10:34 PM
Batista: A member of the "evolution" stable, a modern knock-off of the four horseman than included Flair, Batista, Orton, and HHH. In storylines, Flair has remained an occasional mentor of Batista.

Cena: The theme was "people wanting to say thank you", so it made sense for the current biggest star in the WWE to do so. One thing I like about Cena is his ability to pull that spot off without making the moment about him.

Y2J: Not sure. That was the one that seemed off. I guess the WWE just wanted to make him seem like a big star.

I forget what exactly it is with Y2J but there is a personal relationship there,

JonInMiddleGA
03-31-2008, 11:22 PM
Batista: A member of the "evolution" stable, a modern knock-off of the four horseman than included Flair, Batista, Orton, and HHH. In storylines, Flair has remained an occasional mentor of Batista.

Flair also made mention of Batista over the weekend, saying something to the effect that now that he (Flair) is on the straight & narrow that he lives vicariously through Batista.

JonInMiddleGA
03-31-2008, 11:26 PM
Probably lost in all the different great sights & scenes during the Flair tribute was Randy Orton standing off to the side of the front row of guys who came down to ringside, wiping away tears. I don't think we were supposed to see him there (since it was so completely out of kayfabe) but I'm glad I noticed it. Kind of gives me hope that he's matured over the past couple of years.

Neon_Chaos
04-01-2008, 12:56 AM
Y2J: Not sure. That was the one that seemed off. I guess the WWE just wanted to make him seem like a big star.

Considering Jericho had been working with Flair for a good decade or so, I think that there's a personal relationship there.

Neon_Chaos
04-01-2008, 04:04 AM
http://www.411mania.com/siteimages/iloveyouux4_1808.gif
"I'm sorry... I love you."

Match of the night, and, IMHO, made the entire evening worth the money.

Neon_Chaos
04-01-2008, 06:15 AM
dola

Cena has become "cool" to boo as has been said above. The guy is as competent in the ring as Rock or Austin in their peak runs in the WWF. He has good Main Event brawls and is amazing as a face in peril. What more can you ask of a guy? The crowd is ALWAYS reacting, whether good or bad. It isn't like they just don't care like what happened during Ortons first title run.

I personally think that the fan resentment on Cena started when he jumped from Smackdown to RAW in 2005. Cena had a great title chase against JBL in 2005, and won the title on Wrestlemania, he was completely over with the fans and was definitely a fan favorite.

The problem with him jumping to RAW was that he suddenly was put into an environment where there were two or three legit Title contenders in the brand. He was the big fish on Smackdown, but on Raw, there was a lot of competition. It didn't help that he held on to the title until January of 2006. For a face to hold on to that title for that long with a lot of contenders was unprecedented, not since Hogan's time. They tried to recapture that Hogan run and failed miserably.

Most smarky fans started turning against him and rooting for Triple H and Edge. Afterall, the best thing in wrestling is all about the Title chase. Most of the fans who grew up to Austin and Rock aren't conditioned to watch a face champion thwart challenge after challenge. He usually gets screwed out of the title, or turns heel, or something. He doesn't remain a face and hold on to the title for that long. (Austin and The Rock's title reigns were about 3 to 5 months each, and they always were screwed out of the title (Austin) or turned heel (Rock)).

See how the fans reacted when Edge screwed Cena out of the title in his match against RVD. That's what he needed more of.

Fans will always love the chase, and will eventually turn against any face champion if he holds a title for that long. Unfortunately, Cena hasn't recovered from that "hate" stigma because during the past year someone else has a better case as a face chasing the title (HHH) and the heel champion doesn't really face as much of a challenge since Cena's beaten him time and again before succumbing to an injury. (Orton)

I doubt that the 'E cares much about how the fans react to Cena, since his reactions are always money (the boos aren't XPac heat, and the cheers aren't all just babyface pops)

Despite the major improvements to his repertoire, mic skills, and in-ring psychology, I do think that Cena's entire gimmick is getting stale. He's either been the unbeatable face champ, or the guy chasing after the weak heel. Personally, I think that Cena needs a solid heel turn (which, in my opinion, would be the best choice if they weren't pushing Orton already), or to stay out of the title picture for a while until a legitimate, bad-ass, you can't beat me on your best day, "the fans are all clamoring for me to lose this belt because they want to see you win" type of heel shows up (a heel HHH circa 2004 or JBL circa 2005).

JonInMiddleGA
04-01-2008, 06:23 AM
I think that Cena needs a solid heel turn

The other problem with that right now is that he's headed off to work on a new movie, and I don't believe they're going to handicap that project by having it star a heel (as Rock pointed out, they're having enough trouble already ;) )

Neon_Chaos
04-01-2008, 06:30 AM
The other problem with that right now is that he's headed off to work on a new movie, and I don't believe they're going to handicap that project by having it star a heel (as Rock pointed out, they're having enough trouble already ;) )

That's true.

But who would want to watch John Cena in a movie anyway? :cool:



























Of course, I watched the Marine.

thesloppy
04-01-2008, 06:55 AM
Of course, I watched the Marine.

Lord that movie sucked....of course, I watched it too.

CENA: IT'S MY WIFE!!!

CENA: THEY'VE GOT MY WIFE!!

CENA: I'VE GOT TO GET MY WIFE!!

ME: Zzzzzzz

...and what the hell was the bit with the guy and his 'rock candy'? Did Vince McMahon write that script?

Schmidty
04-01-2008, 07:01 AM
But who would want to watch John Cena in a movie anyway? :cool:[/SIZE]

My wife.

Neon_Chaos
04-01-2008, 07:22 AM
Lord that movie sucked....of course, I watched it too.

CENA: IT'S MY WIFE!!!

CENA: THEY'VE GOT MY WIFE!!

CENA: I'VE GOT TO GET MY WIFE!!

ME: Zzzzzzz

...and what the hell was the bit with the guy and his 'rock candy'? Did Vince McMahon write that script?

:)

And it was 70% of John Cena running.

And of course, Terminator jokes.

JonInMiddleGA
04-01-2008, 05:46 PM
Former WCW wrestler Hardbody Harrison sentenced to life in prison (http://www.ajc.com/metro/content/metro/stories/2008/04/01/hardbody_0402.html?cxntlid=homepage_tab_newstab) for running a prostitution ring.

Former pro-wrestler Harrison "Hardbody" Norris Jr. was sentenced Tuesday to life in prison, one of the harshest punishments ever handed down in a U.S. human trafficking case.

A jury convicted Norris, 42, on 24 counts in November, including forced labor, sex trafficking, peonage, aggravated sexual assault, witness tampering and obstruction. Norris targeted women who were homeless, addicted to drugs or in trouble with the law, luring them into his two Cartersville homes with the promise of a pro wrestling career. Instead, prosecutors say, he whipped them into shape for commercial sex.

U.S. District Judge Jack Camp said that although Norris' victims "weren't tied, chained or kept in the basement," he controlled them through psychological means. "Quite frankly," Camp said, "you seem to have a better understanding of psychology than most psychologists I've known."

CU Tiger
04-02-2008, 06:40 PM
Former WCW wrestler Hardbody Harrison sentenced to life in prison (http://www.ajc.com/metro/content/metro/stories/2008/04/01/hardbody_0402.html?cxntlid=homepage_tab_newstab) for running a prostitution ring.

Former pro-wrestler Harrison "Hardbody" Norris Jr. was sentenced Tuesday to life in prison, one of the harshest punishments ever handed down in a U.S. human trafficking case.

A jury convicted Norris, 42, on 24 counts in November, including forced labor, sex trafficking, peonage, aggravated sexual assault, witness tampering and obstruction. Norris targeted women who were homeless, addicted to drugs or in trouble with the law, luring them into his two Cartersville homes with the promise of a pro wrestling career. Instead, prosecutors say, he whipped them into shape for commercial sex.

U.S. District Judge Jack Camp said that although Norris' victims "weren't tied, chained or kept in the basement," he controlled them through psychological means. "Quite frankly," Camp said, "you seem to have a better understanding of psychology than most psychologists I've known."


What a great word.
That is all.

molson
04-02-2008, 10:27 PM
Check out the ridiculous overrun rating for RAW.

9:00 - 3.87
9:15 - 3.71
9:30 - 3.76
9:45 - 3.75
10:00 - 3.94
10:15 - 3.97
10:30 - 3.87
10:45 - 3.99
Overrun - 4.70

What a home run of a segment.

Maple Leafs
04-07-2008, 09:52 AM
This could be interesting...

Fox 5 in Atlanta tonight had as one of its lead stories, an item about a man who moved into a home he had just purchased from a WWE wrestler (whose name was not identified in the story).

He found who shoe boxes filled with steroids and Growth Hormone in a crawl space in the wall along with a copy of the wrestlers current contract and a memo regarding changes in te dress code.

They announced they weren't releasing the name of the wrestler who just moved until they spoke with him first.

Fidatelo
04-07-2008, 10:03 AM
How does a guy forget his stash like that? Maybe this wrestler needs to smoke some weed and become a little more paranoid...

JonInMiddleGA
04-07-2008, 03:28 PM
The wrestler involved is being identified as Mike Knox, and based upon a dress code memo found inside one of the boxes, the stash appears to have been placed there sometime in 2004 (prior to the implementation of the wellness policy).
http://www.wsbtv.com/news/15815942/detail.html

Maple Leafs
04-07-2008, 04:42 PM
That sort of name was pretty much the best case scenario for the WWE.

saldana
04-07-2008, 04:56 PM
who the hell is mike knox

JonInMiddleGA
04-07-2008, 05:37 PM
who the hell is mike knox

Made his debut on ECW in June 06 as Kelly Kelly's boyfriend & had a fruitless mini-feud with CM Punk. Was sent back to developmental in Spring '07 and returned to ECW in Fall '07, and has basically been around .500 in meaningless midcard matches since then, most recently splitting a pair vs Stevie Richards with a win for Knox on April 1st.

molson
04-07-2008, 06:22 PM
who the hell is mike knox

HBK hilariously wondered the same thing at the '06 Survivor Series:

(Watch 1:10 to 1:35)

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DeToxRox
04-07-2008, 09:29 PM
This is written by Tracy Smothers ex-wife ..


When I decided to end my four year relationship with Tracy Smothers I ordered a three month supply of all his medications before I took him off my insurance.
I also made sure he would have the COBRA forms to be able to extend his insurance.

After I moved out of our home I left all his things in a storage closet in the back of our townhouse for his friend to pick up for him. His friend did that but Tracy has not bothered to go get anything from him.
That means he has none of his medications or the paperwork that he needed to extend his insurance.

I found out yesterday that Tracy has not taken his medicine in close to a month.
He is taking borrowed blood pressure pills and what he called nerve pills. He is still getting drunk every Monday and smoking pot daily.

I know for a fact that he has been having mini strokes since early Christmas morning.
It's happened to him in the ring and when he has been driving to shows.
He told me himself that he had one over a week ago and in the car on Saturday.
They are getting more frequent because he is off his seizure medication.

He has brain damage and post concusssion syndrome to the point where his neurologists told him that he should have gotten out of the ring ten years ago.

Anyone who steps into the ring with him is now taking their life in their own hands.
Any promoter who would consider booking him for a show is insane unless they want to see him die in their ring.

When Tracy is off his medications he is delusional, irrational, and has violent blackouts as well as the seizures and mini strokes.

Without his mediciations he will be the next Chris Benoit!

I got out because I refuse to wind up like Nancy.

If anyone sees him in public or at a show please encourage him to go get his medications that I have already paid for.
His friend has them waiting for him here in Nashville.

I am curently writing a book on dealing with his insanity. I just hope he lives until it is ready to go to press.
It will be a miracle if he survives much longer.

For more information about that please visit my website at http://www.reneepayne.com

I plan on donating most of the profits from the book to the
Nancy and Daniel Benoit Foundation for Abused Women and Children in Atlanta.

I'm not posting this to be mean or spiteful. I am trying to save his life!

Please feel free to repost this information on as many websites as possible.
Tracy has given his life to the wrestling business and now has absolutely nothing to show for it in return.
If anyone cares about saving his life please get him to start taking his medication and get out of the ring for good.

The wrestling business does not need the stigma of yet another untimely death.

Thank You!

Renee Payne

saldana
04-08-2008, 11:54 AM
Made his debut on ECW in June 06 as Kelly Kelly's boyfriend & had a fruitless mini-feud with CM Punk. Was sent back to developmental in Spring '07 and returned to ECW in Fall '07, and has basically been around .500 in meaningless midcard matches since then, most recently splitting a pair vs Stevie Richards with a win for Knox on April 1st.

can you tell i dont watch ECW?

DeToxRox
04-08-2008, 09:33 PM
LOL .. Spoiler for SD on Friday from PWI..

Smackdown opened with Great Khali coming out with his Indian dancers. Big Show comes out and Khali welcomes him with gifts, including a goat, a chicken and fine scotch. Big Show proceeds to knockout Khali with one punch. "It was truly one of the worst in ring segments of all time."

JonInMiddleGA
04-13-2008, 07:21 PM
Nice little senton off the top of the cage by Curry Man onto Creed & Devine to open TNA Lockdown.

JonInMiddleGA
04-13-2008, 07:26 PM
Lethal retains with assists from SoCal Val and Sonjay Dutt, escaping through the door while Devine was still climbing down the cage.

So the inevitable Dutt heel turn will continue to play out slowly I guess.

edit: Roxxi wins the Queen of the Cage over Angelina Love. Very short brawl portion to get into the ring, fairly short match too.

edit 2 & 3 & 4: What a shock (not) -- Super Eric wins the tag team handcuff match after being beaten down by Rhodes & Rellik backstage ... Gail & ODB win over Kong & Saeed, after Kong clobbered her partner accidentally ... Sharmell pins Banks after she accidentally slapped the taste out of Roode's mouth. Booker recovers from being tossed face first into the cage in time to celebrate. (whoopedy f'n do)

JonInMiddleGA
04-13-2008, 09:17 PM
Team Cage wins the Lethal Lockdown as Rhino gores Storm, who had just laid out Morgan with a beer bottle. Spot of the match was on top of the cage, where AJ & Cage both came off a ladder through a table. Probably wasn't as spectacular a spot as they were hoping for in the end but the setup for it was pretty impressive to see (not to mention f'n nuts).

Most impressive thing about the match? The fact that they avoided taking the obvious route & having someone turn.

JonInMiddleGA
04-13-2008, 09:51 PM
Your winner ... and NEW Heavyweight Champion of the WORRRRRLD ...
Samoa Joe

Muscle Buster finish to a submission oriented/MMA influenced match.

JonInMiddleGA
04-17-2008, 08:41 PM
And later tonight on Impact ... TNA bookers turn to blue collar comedian Ron White for inspiration as they prove "You can't fix stupid".

JonInMiddleGA
04-21-2008, 09:13 PM
And if tonight's appearance by Umaga doesn't turn him face nothing will ;)

DeToxRox
04-21-2008, 09:18 PM
I won't lie ... I laughed at Bill running away.

molson
04-21-2008, 09:23 PM
I won't lie ... I laughed at Bill running away.

+1

I don't mind the crap segments as long as they don't drag on too long. Wrestling needs crap to make everything else look better.