03:18 AM - February 24, 2009 by PVarck31MLB 2K9 News Post
03:18 AM - February 24, 2009 by PVarck31
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I don't feel like sithing through 71 pages, I'm sure this has been asked. Is this the same build that Steve was reviewing?
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now that i know i will leave you alone sorry for wasting your timeYou have to learn to ignore him. There are some individuals who use this site as a means of venting. No intelligent discussion... just ranting on every post. Brush it off and move on. Not worth the frustration. The mods will deal with him eventually.
Also, on the topic of the PS3 version... that's simply my speculation. Hopefully 2k will surprise PS3 owners and give them a solid equivalent.
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# 566
Kramer5150 @ 02/25/09 03:28 AM
Ok guys,
I'm not able to dl the demo,as I haven't got my high speed installed in our new home yet.
So what is the overall consensus?....I'm looking for input from TRUSTED Osers,not the "fly by night" cats who come out of the woodwork this time of year (it's easy to see who they are).
I'm not able to dl the demo,as I haven't got my high speed installed in our new home yet.
So what is the overall consensus?....I'm looking for input from TRUSTED Osers,not the "fly by night" cats who come out of the woodwork this time of year (it's easy to see who they are).
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My major problem is the collision data, players walking through each other, the lack of celebrations when a walk off is hit, but other than that the game runs smooth, except for foul ball, but I'm sure they will take care of that before release.
The announcing is great, way better than John & Joe, the presentation is good. The graphics are a lot better than previous years. I dl'd 2K7 and 2K8 and compared and this looks 10 times better than 2K8.
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Kramer5150 @ 02/25/09 04:06 AM
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Everything seems to sound alot better,although I was also able to get some enjoyment out of 2k8 as well
...and that game got nothing but slammed...lol.I'll admit I just skimmed through this thread,but it was REAL easy to see who the "fly by nighters" are/were.
It sounds like I will definitely get some enjoyment out of this years game also,and that's all I ask....just give me some enjoyment...lol
Thanks again tj.
Oh yea...it also makes the purchase easier since my wife is a long time Dodger fan,so "convincing" her won't be difficult..lol
I had the opportunity to test drive the demo and was kind of back and forth on some things mainly the hitting. I know the demo was on a lower difficulty but there seemed to be nothing really interactive with it. My main question is if there is any sort of hit quality penalty for leaving the batter in the coiled position too long? In the demo it did not seem to be the case. I would hope there is one on the higher levels because if there is not the user is basically circumventing the system to a one step process along the lines of a button press.
Also, there seems to be a loss of feeling or connection when hitting the ball as to the quality of the hit or even the depth. I think the bat sounds have a lot to do with this in selling the different bat on ball hit qualities. In the demo so far I feel it comes up short. I am not really talking about the sound aesthetically but doing the job of selling the type of hit. I should feel/hear a difference from a ball that gets sent to the wall as opposed to being dunked over the infield.
Also, there seems to be a loss of feeling or connection when hitting the ball as to the quality of the hit or even the depth. I think the bat sounds have a lot to do with this in selling the different bat on ball hit qualities. In the demo so far I feel it comes up short. I am not really talking about the sound aesthetically but doing the job of selling the type of hit. I should feel/hear a difference from a ball that gets sent to the wall as opposed to being dunked over the infield.
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SoxFan01605 @ 02/25/09 04:19 AM
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I don't think that will change with difficulty either (unless there is a hidden option that Steve's pictures missed where the step influence from 2K8 is there). That was the beauty of the step influence...it made the laoding of the hips matter. Oh well...I know plenty don't care, but this is a big downer for me.
Also, agreed on the bat sounds/feel. The hits just don't feel right to me. A HR can feel the same as a pop-up often times. It's been that way for awhile, and bat sounds do play a big part in that. Add in the kind of "suctioned" feeling of hitting (that's how it feels to me...not sure how else to describe it) and it's an ehh experience.
Hopefully it's polished up a bit in the final, but to be honest this is not likely to be too much different.
# 571
EnigmaNemesis @ 02/25/09 04:22 AM
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I think it is also hard to sell the hit, because of the camera angle it goes to after.
You cant really tell the difference between a low line drive, or a high one, or most hits for that matter. The fielding camera is just all wrong.
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Thats very unfortunate! They took away one of the most crucial components of the swing when it comes to determining a hit. They gave the hitting a lobotomy! LOL To me that negates innovation.
As far as the bat sounds, that is something they continue to keep struggling with.
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EnigmaNemesis @ 02/25/09 04:34 AM
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I understand this. We are talking about the demo, and in the demo, the way the camera is, it is hard to distinguish between hit types. They lack that flare ... especially HRs and Pop Flies.
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SoxFan01605 @ 02/25/09 04:36 AM
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The icons and meters same feeling as you.
This feels like a step back. When a ball is hit in The Show the park feels huge. Not here
Also the sound of the pitch hitting the mit in The Show is miles ahead of the sound here. How hard can it be to get that sound in perfect.
Some times players will stand and look up like a zombie or how about a 5 second cutaway of cole slowly walking backward towards second for no apparent reason after a play.
The icon for the baserunner looks like its from an atari 2600
If the show would just put a swing stick and swing pitching in it would be great.
This does feel like a beta they want to sell as final. Which is what they did LAST year remember?
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Foo4Everlong @ 02/25/09 04:57 AM
I've played about seven to ten games or so now and this is what I've come up with.
*GOOD*
* The commentary is fantastic. I knew that Steve Phillips would be the Chris Collinsworth(Madden 09) of 2K9.
* The stadiums and atmosphere look so much better than last year. Closer to 2K7.
* The weather appears to have some movement this year. The clouds seem to keep moving along overhead.
* Always have loved the controls.
* Crowd is a big step in the right direction.
* I enjoy the pop up Inside Edge info.
* Real-Time Living World
*BAD*
* The player models look bad. The faces appear to have taken a hit since last year. The clothes look too stuck to the body. The last to years that could be fixed with the player edits. You could change the jersey and pants to look bigger, and while I have seen a screenshot to possibly fix the pants, I haven't seen anything regarding the jersey which frightens me. I have been a huge fan of 2K's editting system, which is part or mostly the reason why I've played 2K over The Show. You could edit each player to make them look as they do in real life, but what I have seen from screenshots, videos, and the demo, it appears that this year it might not be as vast. I also noticed that the equiptment looks funky, the colors especially, as well as the batting gloves, mitts, and batting helmets also look wierd. I noticed that The how has really added a lot to this area, so I might be playing The Show more this year than ever before. The problem is I really enjoy 2K's controls much better.
* Appears that the run into the catch mode has been removed.
* Slide takeouts or collision detection is or appears to be gone.
* Catchers appear not to stand up for pitches up in the zone. Instead they just hold their gloves up, sometimes in front of their eyes, which I don't get cuz how are they gonna catch the ball if they can't see it.
* No various umpires (which I mean that they call balls the way they see it instead of the way it should be called. It makes for interesting calls, and harder to find the strike zone.
* Some of the more famous baseball players like Carlos Pena, Shane Victorino u would think they would by now finally have a Signature Style but don't.
* Wind animation gone. I now this is sota mixed with respect to who likes it and who doesn't, but I did. I thought it gave a touch of realism.
* The ball cursor is too big
* The basball itself appears to be too big.
* Not a big deal, but I miss the coaches linup card to make subs and whatnot from.
*THE CONCLUSION*
I love the way the stadiums look as well as all presentation. I think the presentation has gotten a lot better this year. The one thing that is sorta a big deal to me, and something that I never thought I would have had to worry about, was the player models, faces, uniforms, hats, and pretty much anything to do with the players themselves look bad this year. And have seen to have taken a turn downwards ever since 2K8. That means the last two years the player models have gone down in quality. Unfortunately there seems to be more of the bad than good, but I really will have to wait to see the released game cuz who knows what version of this game the demo is.
I have been and continue to root for 2K big time, but it seems that every year intead of keeping the good and building ontop of that (ala The Show) it always seems like they are always trying to rebuild the game. I'm gonna really wait to make my final decision to what game I will really play this year, which was never a question(2K), but from just playing both demos I am leaning slightly towards The Show, but I will wait until next Tuesday. Later
*GOOD*
* The commentary is fantastic. I knew that Steve Phillips would be the Chris Collinsworth(Madden 09) of 2K9.
* The stadiums and atmosphere look so much better than last year. Closer to 2K7.
* The weather appears to have some movement this year. The clouds seem to keep moving along overhead.
* Always have loved the controls.
* Crowd is a big step in the right direction.
* I enjoy the pop up Inside Edge info.
* Real-Time Living World
*BAD*
* The player models look bad. The faces appear to have taken a hit since last year. The clothes look too stuck to the body. The last to years that could be fixed with the player edits. You could change the jersey and pants to look bigger, and while I have seen a screenshot to possibly fix the pants, I haven't seen anything regarding the jersey which frightens me. I have been a huge fan of 2K's editting system, which is part or mostly the reason why I've played 2K over The Show. You could edit each player to make them look as they do in real life, but what I have seen from screenshots, videos, and the demo, it appears that this year it might not be as vast. I also noticed that the equiptment looks funky, the colors especially, as well as the batting gloves, mitts, and batting helmets also look wierd. I noticed that The how has really added a lot to this area, so I might be playing The Show more this year than ever before. The problem is I really enjoy 2K's controls much better.
* Appears that the run into the catch mode has been removed.
* Slide takeouts or collision detection is or appears to be gone.
* Catchers appear not to stand up for pitches up in the zone. Instead they just hold their gloves up, sometimes in front of their eyes, which I don't get cuz how are they gonna catch the ball if they can't see it.
* No various umpires (which I mean that they call balls the way they see it instead of the way it should be called. It makes for interesting calls, and harder to find the strike zone.
* Some of the more famous baseball players like Carlos Pena, Shane Victorino u would think they would by now finally have a Signature Style but don't.
* Wind animation gone. I now this is sota mixed with respect to who likes it and who doesn't, but I did. I thought it gave a touch of realism.
* The ball cursor is too big
* The basball itself appears to be too big.
* Not a big deal, but I miss the coaches linup card to make subs and whatnot from.
*THE CONCLUSION*
I love the way the stadiums look as well as all presentation. I think the presentation has gotten a lot better this year. The one thing that is sorta a big deal to me, and something that I never thought I would have had to worry about, was the player models, faces, uniforms, hats, and pretty much anything to do with the players themselves look bad this year. And have seen to have taken a turn downwards ever since 2K8. That means the last two years the player models have gone down in quality. Unfortunately there seems to be more of the bad than good, but I really will have to wait to see the released game cuz who knows what version of this game the demo is.
I have been and continue to root for 2K big time, but it seems that every year intead of keeping the good and building ontop of that (ala The Show) it always seems like they are always trying to rebuild the game. I'm gonna really wait to make my final decision to what game I will really play this year, which was never a question(2K), but from just playing both demos I am leaning slightly towards The Show, but I will wait until next Tuesday. Later
Conceptually I think the real time presentation is a great addition. As far as execution goes, right now I would say it is between fair and good. A project this size I would think takes a couple years to get it flowing correctly. I always wonder in these situations if it is better not to release these types of things until it is closer to being done or just throw out there what you have and keep fixing it. For right now I think the Show's presentation is sewn together tighter and offers a more seamless feel. I can see how in the future the real time presentation will be the benchmark in presentation.
Even though the game was running well at 60fps, the game is still lacking frames of animation to ensure believable movement and I think that really hurts the overall fluidness game.
Even though the game was running well at 60fps, the game is still lacking frames of animation to ensure believable movement and I think that really hurts the overall fluidness game.
haha this thread is damn fun to read
You have the usual trolls who bash the game 400 times in one thread, and then you have the reverse trolls who defend every negative by saying "it's just a demo!" as if the final version will be a complete 180.
But seriously now 2KSports...you wasted your time working on the freakin CLOUDS instead of the batter/hitter A.I.??? Is this a joke?
You have the usual trolls who bash the game 400 times in one thread, and then you have the reverse trolls who defend every negative by saying "it's just a demo!" as if the final version will be a complete 180.
But seriously now 2KSports...you wasted your time working on the freakin CLOUDS instead of the batter/hitter A.I.??? Is this a joke?
# 580
SoMiss2000 @ 02/25/09 08:06 AM
When NFL 2K first came out I hated it. Eventually, the game grew on me and I loved it. I've NEVER liked 2K Baseball. This demo has done nothing to change it. I had planned to get both games but since I own a PS3, there is really no point to buying this one. Of course, you will not see me post much in this forum. I may rent this one eventually.
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