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Madden NFL 10 Blog: The Importance of an Early Community Day (New Screenshot Included

05:59 PM - April 13, 2009 by Ian_Cummings

Check out the new Madden NFL 10 blog. This one features the importance of an early community day.

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	"On April 10, we flew in 8 of the most hardcore Madden fans for a marathon testing day to get an extremely early look at our Alpha build and provide feedback based on where the game is thus far. You may ask, �What is new about this? Haven�t you had community events in the past?� Yes, we have done these before, but there are some key differences."

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# 261 coach_ruckus @ 04/14/09 01:45 AM

LOLOL @ valdarez

# 262 streamline @ 04/14/09 01:47 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLYsRMmsTfw
or
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JuHXGVudSGw

# 263 NYyankz225 @ 04/14/09 01:50 AM

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Originally Posted by streamline


	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLYsRMmsTfw or http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JuHXGVudSGw

That second one looked right out of Madden. Guess they don't have the wrong idea... as long as only people with crazy arm strength can do it and the accuracy is affected enough

# 264 NFLHITMAN @ 04/14/09 01:51 AM

Compare these to me......

Madden leagues are a joke so I will use what most Madden commish will use for Madden.....

League Daddy makes you have to write down all your stats and input them yourself LOL. I don't know about you but after a few games I was done doing that ****...

http://www.leaguedaddy.com/

Here is APF 2K8 leagues free of charge.......

http://online.2ksports.com/league/?p...36571&t=APF2K8

All games after completed automatically will upload the game stats like Win, Loss, Each players stats and more and you never have to do anything at all but play the game.

The league commish can post pics and more on the site to make even more interesting.

Tell me the difference???

# 265 streamline @ 04/14/09 01:52 AM

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Originally Posted by NFLHITMAN


	Compare these to me...... Madden leagues are a joke so I will use what most Madden commish will use for Madden..... League Daddy makes you have to write down all your stats and input them yourself LOL. I don't know about you but after a few games I was done doing that ****... http://www.leaguedaddy.com/ Here is APF 2K8 leagues free of charge....... http://online.2ksports.com/league/?p...36571&t=APF2K8 All games after completed automatically will upload the game stats like Win, Loss, Each players stats and more and you never have to do anything at all but play the game. The league commish can post pics and more on the site to make even more interesting. Tell me the difference???

jesus we got the point already.

# 266 coach_ruckus @ 04/14/09 01:57 AM

streamline i said 30 yards back and show me the other 31 qbs doing the same thing

# 267 streamline @ 04/14/09 01:59 AM

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Originally Posted by coach_ruckus


	streamline i said 30 yards back and show me the other 31 qbs doing the same thing

its too dark so i cant film it maybe tomorrow.

# 268 XtremeDunkz @ 04/14/09 02:02 AM

Jesus Christ when did this forum become like the EA and gamefaqs forums?

# 269 NFLHITMAN @ 04/14/09 02:03 AM

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Originally Posted by streamline


	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLYsRMmsTfw or http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JuHXGVudSGw

Is that the best you can do???

First video shows he threw 35 yards total.

Second video showed he threw 53 yards total.

Now the most important thing that helps you prove our point is this.......

Russell has one of the strongest arms in the NFL and even with his ARM STRENGTH he still had to SQUARE UP HIS SHOULDERS AND PLANT HIS FEET to get the ball off that deep and accurate.

In Madden you can run back wards without ever facing the WR, Planting your feet, Squaring your shoulder and just flick your wrist and throw 70+ yard down field as if your the Bionic man.

# 270 Cnada @ 04/14/09 02:06 AM

I like the idea of more control for user DL players, i play DE always going for the sack and my repatoire is pretty small either i make a direct cut outside or try to outrun O-line on the outside, engaging usually means wasting too much time.
Hopefully i will have more weapons this year

# 271 NYyankz225 @ 04/14/09 02:20 AM

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Originally Posted by NFLHITMAN


	In Madden you can run back wards without ever facing the WR, Planting your feet, Squaring your shoulder and just flick your wrist and throw 70+ yard down field as if your the Bionic man.

I'm tired of this bull**** straight lies with no source to back it up. I just turned on my 360 and did this in two seconds. I ran back 10 yards...not even 30 as crazy man coach ruckus suggested (I don't think you realize how much 30 yards really is).....and these are the results.

# 272 streamline @ 04/14/09 02:23 AM

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Originally Posted by NYyankz225


	I'm tired of this bull**** straight lies with no source to back it up. I just turned on my 360 and did this in two seconds. I ran back 10 yards...not even 30 as crazy man coach ruckus suggested.....and these are the results.

thank you

# 273 PGaither84 @ 04/14/09 02:23 AM

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Originally Posted by NFLHITMAN


	My biggest issue with Madden is game play and player movement but there are other things pointed out that I totally forgot about. Anyone who knows me in APF 2K8 ( Basically anyone who plays it ) knows I like my D-Line. Please make sure the D-Line has a presence on the field. IMO there is only 1 QB who could do what people do with below average QB's in Madden. Michael Vick could run laterally and still throw a bomb but he was still inaccurate with it. The one thing I can't stand to see in any football game is...... Someone running backwards in a full sprint or totally backwards and throw 80 yards accurately without ever squaring up his shoulders or planting his feet LOL. When I played Madden 09 the last game I played was against a guy who used the Steelers and sat Big Ben in favor for Dennis Dixon because he was a faster QB and he would run around with him every which way and throw accurately to a WR 80 yards down field. Does this happen in APF 2K8? The running with the QB backwards happens to a new user until he lealizes it ain't Madden. If you do this in APF you will not be able to have any mustard on your throws and your accuracy will be greatly hindered not to mention the game will make you square your shoulders and plant your feet. You will also have to wind up to make that deep pass not just flick like in Madden.

# 274 Megatron2k7 @ 04/14/09 02:26 AM

I think the mandatory drop backs for the QB will work ok as long as I can still do an occasional dropback similar to this, with success..................http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d80c8e9b3

In this Packers play, (actualy it's something Favre started to do, and now Rodgers also does it) It's a called run play in the huddle, and with some form of communication between Rodgers and Jennings once they are lined up, the two of them have a private audible between just the two of them. All the other players on the offense still think it's a run play.

Rodgers takes one step back and throws to Jennings on this Quick slant. He actually has to throw almost as soon as possibe to avoid an illegal lineman downfield penalty since they are still run blocking.

If I see a defense playing one on one with Jennings, with a cushion like that, down by the goal line...... I hope I can make the same kind of quick throw like in the video. If there's an accuracy penalty for throwing earlier than on a 3 step drop, then I hope it's not too severe for real short throws like that.

Anything that Ian and co. do to tone down the cheese play is great news. I hope we don't have to sacrifice some levels of realism (like this quick pass) to ensure that the cheesers can't abuse some elements of the passing game anymore.

Edit... I didn't see this post by Ian. This thread grew so fast it went up many, many pages from when I started to make this post and I missed it. Thanks for clarifying about the forced dropbacks Ian.

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Originally Posted by Ian_Cummings_EA


	Quick clarification on the 'forced' QB dropback - - You can still throw at any time, with penalties if the timing is way off (i.e. lobbing the ball on a streak in your first step out from under center) - As of the community day you couldn't break out of it until he was fully set. After that day (and other playtests) we moved up the branch out point to be a little earlier. - We also still have to add the ability to allow you to move out of it if there's major pressure (i.e. a screen play where guys are directly in your face...obviously you don't want to take your final steps and set up...you want to keep backpedalling) This is a change strictly for realism. It's part one of many to reduce 'run and chuck'.

# 275 NYyankz225 @ 04/14/09 02:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Megatron2k7


	I think the mandatory drop backs for the QB will work ok as long as I can still do an occasional dropback similar to this, with success..................http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d80c8e9b3 In this Packers play, (actualy it's something Favre started to do, and now Rodgers also does it) It's a called run play in the huddle, and with some form of communication between Rodgers and Jennings once they are lined up, the two of them have a private audible between just the two of them. All the other players on the offense still think it's a run play. Rodgers takes one step back and throws to Jennings on this Quick slant. He actually has to throw almost as soon as possibe to avoid an illegal lineman downfield penalty since they are still run blocking. If I see a defense playing one on one with Jennings, with a cushion like that, down by the goal line...... I hope I can make the same kind of quick throw like in the video. If there's an accuracy penalty for throwing earlier than on a 3 step drop, then I hope it's not too severe for real short throws like that. Anything that Ian and co. do to tone down the cheese play is great news. I hope we don't have to sacrifice some levels of realism (like this quick pass) just to ensure that the cheesers can't abuse some elements of the passing game anymore.

I was going to mention this. Run/pass option is the one spot where this can be an issue. If you see the DB giving jennings space and want to get a quick slant in you should be able to bullet that in quickly. Although the thing is there's really no way to do a true run/pass option in Madden anyway because even when you do the quick audible (flick the right stick up for a short pass) everyone is aware of the change. So that shouldn't be an issue. I just hope you can get slants off quickly because there are a few plays that do use it.

Edit: When you look at the video he still does have to take a few shortened steps back though. I think they'll be able to get something like that in.

# 276 PGaither84 @ 04/14/09 02:31 AM

Fran Tarkenton should have learned how to play sim ball. That cheese just won't fly in the NFL. No wonder he lost 2 Superbowls.

# 277 NFLHITMAN @ 04/14/09 02:39 AM

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Originally Posted by PGaither84

I watched that whole video and never saw one pass over about 30 yards. Yes he did scramble but he never threw more than 30 yards.

I have never had a problem with a QB scrambling with the ball because its in the game. What isn't in the game is throwing 70+ yards especially after your stamina would go down because your running every where. Very few players in the NFL can throw 60 yards and NONE can throw 70+ yards.

Watch the NFL Pro Bowl and you will see the strongest armed QB's in the game go for the longest pass. The longest pass I ever seen in that Pro Bowl game was 65 yards. I am not talking about the game itself I am talking about the mini games before the game. You know like the most accurate, longest pass and more.

# 278 Vikes1 @ 04/14/09 02:41 AM

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Originally Posted by PGaither84


	Fran Tarkenton should have learned how to play sim ball. That cheese just won't fly in the NFL. No wonder he lost 2 Superbowls.

I think it was three PG.

And Joe Kapp was the losing QB of the first. [SB IV]

# 279 NYyankz225 @ 04/14/09 02:42 AM

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Originally Posted by NFLHITMAN


	I watched that whole video and never saw one pass over about 30 yards. Yes he did scramble but he never threw more than 30 yards. I have never had a problem with a QB scrambling with the ball because its in the game. What isn't in the game is throwing 70+ yards especially after your stamina would go down because your running every where. Very few players in the NFL can throw 60 yards and NONE can throw 70+ yards. Watch the NFL Pro Bowl and you will see the strongest armed QB's in the game go for the longest pass. The longest pass I ever seen in that Pro Bowl game was 65 yards. I am not talking about the game itself I am talking about the mini games before the game. You know like the most accurate, longest pass and more.

You ignored my video didnt you. You CANNOT do that in Madden despite what you think. You 2k fans can say it till you're blue in the face but Madden isn't as arcadey as you would like to make it seem. Sure 2k is better but all is not lost for Madden.

# 280 streamline @ 04/14/09 02:44 AM

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Originally Posted by NFLHITMAN


	I watched that whole video and never saw one pass over about 30 yards. Yes he did scramble but he never threw more than 30 yards. I have never had a problem with a QB scrambling with the ball because its in the game. What isn't in the game is throwing 70+ yards especially after your stamina would go down because your running every where. Very few players in the NFL can throw 60 yards and NONE can throw 70+ yards. Watch the NFL Pro Bowl and you will see the strongest armed QB's in the game go for the longest pass. The longest pass I ever seen in that Pro Bowl game was 65 yards. I am not talking about the game itself I am talking about the mini games before the game. You know like the most accurate, longest pass and more.

im going to sound like a broken record, but jamarcus russell can definitely throw 70+ plus yards. once again maybe in madden 08 you could throw the ball off your back foot pretty far but no way in hell can you do it in 09. at most maybe 30 yards, but not as much as you are claiming. btw the video of jamrock slinging the rock.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=saLKcfFiCJ0

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