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MLB '10: The Show - Franchise Issues Update

07:41 PM - March 2, 2010 by Kolbe

Here is our list of the current known issues that we're looking into for immediate attention:

Attendance:
Attendance is not correctly getting reported. In talking with Jeff, he has a fix in mind that is fairly safe but would end up in the actual attendance not mirroring the paid attendance you get in franchise. It would fix the issue where you have 50k+ people attending Spring Training games. This will also fix issues with playoff games and games played in any stadium that isn't your own.
* UPDATE - This was caused by the stadium select screen being added to franchise, causing the attendance to be reset using the non-franchise logic. The stadium select was previously never used for playoff games, so it didn't handle that situation. This is fixed and it also fixes the issue with spring training games showing the attendance as if they were in their home stadium.

Trade Waivers:
Users can claim anyone off of trade waivers - CPU teams will never pull them back.
* UPDATE - fixed this one - a simple fix that will prevent user teams from simply claiming everyone that was passed through trade waivers.

No Contract:
Players can get into a state where they have no contract.
* UPDATE - As soon as a player was placed on release waivers, his contract was cleared. Then if he was claimed, he didn't have a contract. It was also clearing his 40-man roster status, which is what was causing him to go to AAA instead of the MLB team. Have a fix for this.

Player Potential:
Looks like a fairly bad miscommunication ended up with us having some seriously out of whack potentials. This will be corrected with the next roster download (Monday)
* UPDATE - Lorne is taking care of this - will be fixed with a roster update.

Multi Closer issue:
If a CPU team has 2 closers (one acquired in a trade) - they will always send one down to AAA.
* UPDATE - It would just look at the closers and see that they had more than they needed so they'd send one down, but they wouldn't look to see if they could send down a reliever instead and keep the 2nd closer in the bullpen. Have a fix for this.

Multi Trade players:
Not even sure what the details are on this one, but it looks like sometimes a player is traded and then re-traded or waived. Currently investigating.
* UPDATE - I have a fix for the trades. I'll not allow a player to be placed on the trading block by the CPU if he has been acquired by a trade recently.

Manual Trade issue:
I've seen a few reports of users having trades set to Manual and still having trades done by the CPU. Again, no idea how this is happening and we're looking for more information.
* UPDATE - Not sure what's happening here, we can not get this one to reproduce. Whoever is getting this, please make sure that you don't have your profile option set to something different than your global setting. If you need to talk to me via PM or IM for further info, please just say the word!
* UPDATE 2 Thanks to tabarnes19 and a couple hours of debugging we have found the issue and have a fix in the works.

If you respond, please please PLEASE do not be noise. We need clear help or silence - we want these things cleared up as much as you do!

-K

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# 641 Pared @ 03/09/10 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by VitaminKG21


	Don't get me wrong here Pared, I'm sure they spend a crazy amount of time working on franchise mode and I would never say it's been completely ignored. - SNIP -

No, you're completely right. How many times do you look on the back of the box of a sports game and see, "New Franchise features with realistic trades!"

Still, from what I've seen and discussed, they don't go always untouched. I know that wasn't the case here and in a few other games.

Edit - Guys, let's not try and go too far off track. I don't want to have to lock the thread because we have gone very off-topic as it is.

# 642 GoBucs09 @ 03/09/10 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Pared


	Edit - Guys, let's not try and go too far off track. I don't want to have to lock the thread because we have gone very off-topic as it is.

You aint kidding! I'm happy I vented my frustration, unfortunately it was at your guys expense.

I think someone posted a new bug in the last 3 or 4 pages but we (I) buried it. oops

# 643 ARMORALLL @ 03/09/10 04:09 PM

Truth is the more new things sony adds to the game, the more problems there are to fix along the way. I remember last year people were complaining about MLB 09 and now people are saying it played much more smoothly. No game is ever perfect but I hope with enough patch work the game can be playable the way it has been.

# 644 Dreifort @ 03/09/10 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by ARMORALLL


	Truth is the more new things sony adds to the game, the more problems there are to fix along the way. I remember last year people were complaining about MLB 09 and now people are saying it played much more smoothly. No game is ever perfect but I hope with enough patch work the game can be playable the way it has been.

I think most of the new additions to MLB10 are in good working order...it's previous functions/abilities that worked fine in MLB09 are now buggy in MLB10.

# 645 tabarnes19_SDS @ 03/09/10 04:28 PM

You know one thing that I think is over looked here and shows that these guys do listen to us.......In a thread were we were discussing franchise issues I brought up how major leaguers were getting sent down with out having to pass through waivers. Kolbe wrote that those guys had options left, per the place they get it.

We showed him that players with more than 5 years of service could not be sent down without having to pass through waivers.

http://www.operationsports.com/forum...s-pics-12.html

I made a suggestion as a fix to give all players with more than 5 years service all options used....

Latest update all players I have looked at have 3/3 for options if they have played more than 5 years.

Great work!!

# 646 tylersmom000 @ 03/09/10 04:52 PM

Just curious if anybody knows how to get started. I put the game in and it says I have version 6.10 and need to update to version 6.20. When I do this it then says that it can't read the disk. The game is brand new, just out of the package.

# 647 PsychoBulk @ 03/09/10 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by tabarnes19


	You know one thing that I think is over looked here and shows that these guys do listen to us.......In a thread were we were discussing franchise issues I brought up how major leaguers were getting sent down with out having to pass through waivers. Kolbe wrote that those guys had options left, per the place they get it. We showed him that players with more than 5 years of service could not be sent down without having to pass through waivers. http://www.operationsports.com/forum...s-pics-12.html I made a suggestion as a fix to give all players with more than 5 years service all options used.... Latest update all players I have looked at have 3/3 for options if they have played more than 5 years. Great work!!

Yep, indeed.

In the same way Kolbe was superb in making sure that was fixed, he and the whole team will be again in making sure the patch corrects all the major issues we want it too.

I keep saying it, but patience is a virtue in this case.

# 648 ltw0303cavs @ 03/09/10 05:54 PM

Amen Psycho, Amen

# 649 yopis @ 03/09/10 06:13 PM

Only thing is, patch does not help people without online.What about all those disk sitting on store shelves with an incomplete game?I know ill get the patch but what about those people?I love the show and know the problems will get worked out but, it's sad that the game got put on in this condition.When you look and see that a demo is still not out, and the website is not done, you can get an idea of how sloppy this year was handled.Praise the devs when they do good but, patch or no patch it's gonna be rough for some people with this game till next year.

# 650 PsychoBulk @ 03/09/10 06:17 PM

I would suggest those without online, the majority wont have the feintest idea 99% of these issues exist.

# 651 yopis @ 03/09/10 06:29 PM

Maybe but maybe not.

Still like the game though I think it's light years better than last year when it's working.

# 652 SoxFan01605 @ 03/09/10 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by yopis


	Only thing is, patch does not help people without online.What about all those disk sitting on store shelves with an incomplete game?I know ill get the patch but what about those people?I love the show and know the problems will get worked out but, it's sad that the game got put on in this condition.When you look and see that a demo is still not out, and the website is not done, you can get an idea of how sloppy this year was handled.Praise the devs when they do good but, patch or no patch it's gonna be rough for some people with this game till next year.

lol...I think the website's state is a really poor example of what you're trying to say, but I see your point and it's perfectly reasonable.

I do agree that it's a shame for those who don't have online, but I'm a bit torn on this subject in general. On the one hand, games should definitely be in the best possible state upon release, no question.

On the other hand, their are some harsh realities to contend with...particularly for these annually released games. Time, priorities, etc are all constrictive. Plus, these consoles were promoted and advertised for their online capability. This is also the known direction of software (and has actually been that way for YEARS on the PC) as a whole. Anyone who gets these expensive entertainment systems should probably understand what they are getting into at this point.

None of this "excuses" these bugs, etc but it is the unfortunate reality of this particular industry. Like it or not, bugs do happen (and lots of them) for EVERY game. I think frustration exceeds realistic expectations for these games. These bugs are tough for some people to swallow sure, but think of all the games that are 3-4 year productions and are released with as many or more bugs that require patching.

Personally, while I get frustrated with bugs (particularly carry overs from year to year) I am more concerned with how efficiently they're addressed. If all games release with bugs, then what separates developers is how they respond. That is likely why you have so many people jumping to the defense of SCEA in this regard as they have always responded extremely well.

# 653 PsychoBulk @ 03/09/10 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by yopis


	Still like the game though I think it's light years better than last year when it's working.

Absolutely it is, that, added with SCEA's previous record of righting the wrongs in a patch make me relaxed that all will be well in the end.

# 654 yopis @ 03/09/10 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by SoxFan01605


	lol...I think the website's state is a really poor example of what you're trying to say, but I see your point and it's perfectly reasonable. I do agree that it's a shame for those who don't have online, but I'm a bit torn on this subject in general. On the one hand, games should definitely be in the best possible state upon release, no question. On the other hand, their are some harsh realities to contend with...particularly for these annually released games. Time, priorities, etc are all constrictive. Plus, these consoles were promoted and advertised for their online capability. This is also the known direction of software (and has actually been that way for YEARS on the PC) as a whole. Anyone who gets these expensive entertainment systems should probably understand what they are getting into at this point. None of this "excuses" these bugs, etc but it is the unfortunate reality of this particular industry. Like it or not, bugs do happen (and lots of them) for EVERY game. I think frustration exceeds realistic expectations for these games. These bugs are tough for some people to swallow sure, but think of all the games that are 3-4 year productions and are released with as many or more bugs that require patching. Personally, while I get frustrated with bugs (particularly carry overs from year to year) I am more concerned with how efficiently they're addressed. If all games release with bugs, then what separates developers is how they respond. That is likely why you have so many people jumping to the defense of SCEA in this regard as they have always responded extremely well.

I dont think it's a poor point but your welcome to think what you will.I think from a company standpoint, this year was sloppy.I think the devs have a passion for the game and all that good stuff but, things got messy this year.I know that every game has bugs, it's always been that way and will always be that way to an extent.Again not trying to kick a dead horse but with everything being off schedule and an overabundance of killer bugs things are wild.

# 655 manny2k8 @ 03/09/10 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by yopis


	I dont think it's a poor point but your welcome to think what you will.I think from a company standpoint, this year was sloppy.I think the devs have a passion for the game and all that good stuff but, things got messy this year.I know that every game has bugs, it's always been that way and will always be that way to an extent.Again not trying to kick a dead horse but with everything being off schedule and an overabundance of killer bugs things are wild.

Where are the overbundance's off killer bugs? I haven't seen any that warrant that statement and I've played over 25 full games now in franchise.

# 656 Cantgetright69 @ 03/09/10 08:12 PM

I just got the game. How do I download the latest roster update that fixes everything?

# 657 countryboy @ 03/09/10 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Cantgetright69


	I just got the game. How do I download the latest roster update that fixes everything?

the latest roster update only fixes the player potential bug. Everything else will be fixed via a patch that has a yet to be determined date.

To d/l the latest roster update, login to Sportsconnect and one of the tabs(sorry don't remember which one) has the option to save roster update. Choose that, save roster, and you're ready to go.

# 658 muelly54 @ 03/09/10 10:11 PM

Anyone know when the SCEA team gets back?

Id really love to see patch by opening day to get started with my chise at that time.

Game is great but needs some major things fixed

# 659 thekodinator @ 03/09/10 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by muelly54


	Anyone know when the SCEA team gets back? Id really love to see patch by opening day to get started with my chise at that time. Game is great but needs some major things fixed

http://www.pastapadre.com/2010/03/09...the-show-patch

sorry. It's gonna be a while. Though some of the suggestions that I've found on OS about controlling all 30 teams, using separate profiles, putting trades on manual, etc., have really saved franchise for me and I'm having a blast.

# 660 The Chef @ 03/09/10 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by thekodinator


	http://www.pastapadre.com/2010/03/09...the-show-patch sorry. It's gonna be a while. Though some of the suggestions that I've found on OS about controlling all 30 teams, using separate profiles, putting trades on manual, etc., have really saved franchise for me and I'm having a blast.

Wow, Im patient and all and fully expected this to be out sometime in early to mid April but the idea that the patch might not hit until the end of April or later really leaves a bad taste in my mouth. Waiting for Knights rosters is one thing but waiting on this is entirely different. I will continue to use the 30 teams setup and hope that once the patch hits we wont have to restart.

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