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Old 04-30-2025, 12:10 PM   #501
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You don't think the NFL has good data policies?
Probably. If not, we would have team playbooks everywhere. I will give that Ulbrich probably has been in a yearly class where he is told never to leave his computer unlocked unless he is actively using it. So technically he has some fault, but considering this was in his own secured home it was pretty minor. IDK how the team had fault, because there no chance that league policy doesn't allow coaches to work from home.
Just a FYI, this is far from the only time such a prank has occurred. It happens almost every year to some players with no fines or big headlines. The Falcons are getting slapped because this was Deon's son.
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Old 04-30-2025, 04:42 PM   #502
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Probably. If not, we would have team playbooks everywhere. I will give that Ulbrich probably has been in a yearly class where he is told never to leave his computer unlocked unless he is actively using it. So technically he has some fault, but considering this was in his own secured home it was pretty minor. IDK how the team had fault, because there no chance that league policy doesn't allow coaches to work from home.
Just a FYI, this is far from the only time such a prank has occurred. It happens almost every year to some players with no fines or big headlines. The Falcons are getting slapped because this was Deon's son.

Don't forget the whole "recording the whole incident and posting it online" piece. It has happened to multiple players this year but so far, there are no videos and no identification of the culprits. My guess is they only did the video because it was Shedeur. If there is no video, there is probably no identification andthere is probably no punishment.
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Old 04-30-2025, 06:20 PM   #503
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Yeah, I thought I saw that someone pranked Abdul Carter during the 2nd pick.
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Old 04-30-2025, 07:09 PM   #504
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Props to the friend and his family for him actually being the one who made the prank call and probably posted the video and somehow avoided all the backlash. To use a reference for the old folks, that is some high level Eddie Haskell type work right there.
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Old 05-10-2025, 10:00 AM   #505
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Congrats Saints. Got that albatross off your neck.
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Old 05-10-2025, 10:37 AM   #506
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Old 05-10-2025, 10:43 AM   #507
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Hellooooooooooooooooo Kirk Cousins!
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Old 05-10-2025, 11:11 AM   #508
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Hellooooooooooooooooo Kirk Cousins!

As a Saints fan, I have no desire to send assets to Atlanta so Cousins can turn our three-win team into a six-win team.

Play the young guys. Enjoy the top-five pick next draft.
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Old 05-10-2025, 11:56 AM   #509
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Even bigger congrats to Kellen Moore. Enjoy what should be your redshirt year as a head coach.
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Old 05-10-2025, 12:37 PM   #510
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Talk about a get out of jail free card for an awful extension. Congrats Saints fans.
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Old 05-10-2025, 01:19 PM   #511
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I was wondering why he would retire with so much money on his contract but I'm guessing he gets paid it and the Saints get cap relief because of the injury?
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Old 05-10-2025, 04:09 PM   #512
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I was wondering why he would retire with so much money on his contract but I'm guessing he gets paid it and the Saints get cap relief because of the injury?

Apparently not

"Per NFL Network's Ian Rapoport, the Saints won't have to pay Carr's $30 million guaranteed salary for the upcoming season and the club won't seek reimbursement for his $10 million roster and signing bonus that was paid in March."

So, yeah, he gave up $25m in order to ... I guess avoid having surgery?
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Old 05-10-2025, 04:14 PM   #513
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Apparently not

"Per NFL Network's Ian Rapoport, the Saints won't have to pay Carr's $30 million guaranteed salary for the upcoming season and the club won't seek reimbursement for his $10 million roster and signing bonus that was paid in March."

So, yeah, he gave up $25m in order to ... I guess avoid having surgery?

This is critical but Carr has seemed to have a pretty fragile ego and has never had to compete for his job. He wants to be the guy. I read insider reports from a former defensive player, that the defense was told to not intercept him during training camp. I dont think he had it in him to actually go out there and compete to actually be the starter.
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Old 05-10-2025, 04:31 PM   #514
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I have no desire to send assets to Atlanta so Cousins can turn our three-win team into a six-win team.

Play the young guys. Enjoy the top-five pick next draft.

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Old 05-10-2025, 04:50 PM   #515
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Yeah, if this was Detroit with a strong roster but an injury to the QB I think you do whatever you can to compete, but NO isn't going to be good enough even with Cousins.
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Old 05-10-2025, 04:53 PM   #516
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Shough turns 34 soon, may as well see what he can do
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Old 05-10-2025, 08:53 PM   #517
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I don't know. I listened to Derek Carr talk about the whole Henry Ruggs situation and after that the Gruden situation and how his faith led him to respond in the way he did. If Carr believed the surgery was no guarantee and he had no chance of coming back at his current level, I can see Carr deciding to retire instead of going through surgery, rehab etc. just to get another $30 million. I could be wrong but if that is what he has done, kudos to him.
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Old 05-11-2025, 07:51 AM   #518
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Saints are setting to pick number 1 next year when who could be the top QB in the draft? Arch Manning. Will there be another number 8 in New Orleans?
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Old 05-11-2025, 12:44 PM   #519
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From everything I have read, there is no guarantee that Arch is in a hurry to turn pro. A lot of people think he will play out his college eligibility. Maybe, if he has favorite landing spot(s), that impacts his decision, but I wouldn't be surprised to see him as QB1 at Texas for the next couple of years.
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Old 05-11-2025, 12:55 PM   #520
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From everything I have read, there is no guarantee that Arch is in a hurry to turn pro. A lot of people think he will play out his college eligibility. Maybe, if he has favorite landing spot(s), that impacts his decision, but I wouldn't be surprised to see him as QB1 at Texas for the next couple of years.

Yeah his family supposedly loves Sark and is 100% bought in on his QB development.
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Old 05-11-2025, 01:12 PM   #521
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Carr ended his career tied for 27,933rd place with -9 receiving yards.

Not surprisingly, the bottom of the list is filled with QBs who caught their own batted passes.
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Old 05-11-2025, 01:18 PM   #522
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Yeah his family supposedly loves Sark and is 100% bought in on his QB development.

Plus, reports are that he is already making north of $5M per year through his NLI deals (he apparently has national deals with Red Bull, Uber, Vuori, and various card/collectible companies, plus the typical collective and local type of deals).
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Old 05-11-2025, 03:15 PM   #523
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From everything I have read, there is no guarantee that Arch is in a hurry to turn pro. A lot of people think he will play out his college eligibility. Maybe, if he has favorite landing spot(s), that impacts his decision, but I wouldn't be surprised to see him as QB1 at Texas for the next couple of years.
There is also no guarantee he would be the number 1 rated QB in next years draft either, but it is a fun idea of having him go to the team where his grandfather was a star.
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Old 05-14-2025, 11:36 AM   #524
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I may be alone on this issue, and it's not limited to the NFL, but I find the marketing/TV frenzy around schedule releases to be ridiculous. We already know each team's opponents for the season. And sure, if I'm a season ticket holder or plan on trying to go to a game or two during the season, or even synching up an overseas trip with one of the international games, I'd like to know as soon as possible who is playing when and where. But outside of that, who the fuck cares?

As we get close to Week 1, sure, it will be of some interest to more closely analyze schedules - predicted hardest, easiest, etc., and see if there are any particular runs of easy/hard games for the team you root for. But right now? And to spend an hour or more watching a TV show dedicated to breaking down schedules 4 months before the season begins? Hard pass.
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Old 05-14-2025, 11:38 AM   #525
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Same, and I think I've ranted on this in the past.

(Speaking of rants, I cursed at the TV the other day when the news had another ward of nurses who were all pregnant at the same time. Gee, only have had THAT story about 80 times! Fuckers.*)


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Old 05-14-2025, 11:59 AM   #526
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I may be alone on this issue, and it's not limited to the NFL, but I find the marketing/TV frenzy around schedule releases to be ridiculous. We already know each team's opponents for the season. And sure, if I'm a season ticket holder or plan on trying to go to a game or two during the season, or even synching up an overseas trip with one of the international games, I'd like to know as soon as possible who is playing when and where. But outside of that, who the fuck cares?

As we get close to Week 1, sure, it will be of some interest to more closely analyze schedules - predicted hardest, easiest, etc., and see if there are any particular runs of easy/hard games for the team you root for. But right now? And to spend an hour or more watching a TV show dedicated to breaking down schedules 4 months before the season begins? Hard pass.

Yes. It's all nonsense. It went beyond ridiculous when they made a big announcement during the draft in which they simply announced the date the schedule would be announced.

I dislike an announcing of when another announcement will take place.
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Old 05-14-2025, 12:48 PM   #527
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They teased the release of the schedule a ton during the draft, and I ranted about that, until I realized I was watching multiple days of teams choosing players. So I can see where they are coming from.

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Old 05-14-2025, 12:53 PM   #528
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Yeah, I fully understand any criticism about the draft and why it's silly to watch it, but I just enjoy it and love it so.
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Old 05-14-2025, 01:03 PM   #529
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Yeah, I fully understand any criticism about the draft and why it's silly to watch it, but I just enjoy it and love it so.

I'm not saying you're wrong to do it - I love it too - but I get why some exec would think "we can make a show about anything" - there's already the draft, shows about who gets in to the CFP, the NCAA tourney, why not this, right?
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Old 05-14-2025, 01:50 PM   #530
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Sure, but the point was we know who plays who as soon as the previous season ends. The same can’t be said for tourney selections and drafts.
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Old 05-14-2025, 02:06 PM   #531
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Falcons have 5 Primetime games this year. Yeah, exposure. Boo, having to stay up late. I wish we would have won more, but the season 2 years ago when we had 90% 1pm Sunday games was just perfect. Heck. I get cranky about 4pm games.

Now get off my lawn!

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Old 05-14-2025, 02:55 PM   #532
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Old 05-15-2025, 03:34 PM   #533
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New story about Bears. Takeaway is Caleb Williams' dad is smart to not want his son to play for the Bears. Also the Bears just didn't coach Caleb and he had to ask the general manager during the season if he could hire someone to help him with film study. Clown franchise.

Book - Caleb Williams sought way around going to Chicago Bears - ESPN
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Old 05-16-2025, 12:31 PM   #534
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Falcons have 5 Primetime games this year. Yeah, exposure. Boo, having to stay up late. I wish we would have won more, but the season 2 years ago when we had 90% 1pm Sunday games was just perfect. Heck. I get cranky about 4pm games.

Now get off my lawn!

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Old 05-16-2025, 03:26 PM   #535
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Also the Bears just didn't coach Caleb and he had to ask the general manager during the season if he could hire someone to help him with film study.

I'm having so much trouble wrapping my head around this.
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Old 05-16-2025, 03:29 PM   #536
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I'm having so much trouble wrapping my head around this.

It's the Chicago Bears and quarterbacks. It actually isn't that surprising. No clue how Ryan Poles wasn't fired for this outside of it being the Bears and they are an incompetent organization.
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Old 05-16-2025, 03:31 PM   #537
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If you're the owner of the Bears and you just added the best QB prospect your franchise has ever had, how could you not be utterly irate at the fact they didn't coach him or care that he developed? I would be so fucking mad.
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Old 05-16-2025, 03:41 PM   #538
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But why put the blame that high? On a lower level, what OC or QB coach is not sitting and watching film with their QBs? If I'm Ryan Poles, I'm assuming that's happening and that I don't need to make sure.

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Old 05-16-2025, 03:48 PM   #539
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How can you not do everything you can for your QB? Especially when that is your specific job. His success is your success.
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Old 05-16-2025, 04:26 PM   #540
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Well, Purdy got paid as expected. In a vacuum my mind still tells me he's overpaid, then you look at the list of top 10 QBs in terms of salary in the league... yeesh.

I'd take Allen and Burrow over him, the rest is an exercise in good timing and agents.
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Old 05-16-2025, 07:09 PM   #541
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I think RM's point, with which I would agree, is that it's indicative of an entire organizational culture that lacks accountability, and there's no evidence that the owners have ever really tried to instill it (not surprising, given that none of them have ever held a real job in a real organization).
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Old 05-16-2025, 08:13 PM   #542
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Well, Purdy got paid as expected. In a vacuum my mind still tells me he's overpaid, then you look at the list of top 10 QBs in terms of salary in the league... yeesh.

I'd take Allen and Burrow over him, the rest is an exercise in good timing and agents.

When you get a guy, you pay him and keep him. As a fan of a team that has been in the quarterback wilderness since Brees retired, I get it. These guys don’t grow on trees and you can’t just assume you’ll grab one in the draft or fall into a Sam Darnold in Minnesota type situation.
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Old 05-17-2025, 09:43 AM   #543
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I just saw something that says Purdy is paid 2m AAV less than Trevor Lawrence, despite the cap going up 24m since then.

On face value, that’s a pretty good indication of the difference between a well run team and the Jags.
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