I like the Shaq trade IF they still get a second legitimate scorer, like a Redd.

I don't think that 70 year old Shaq is who you think he is.

this is true - and as a celtics fan this doesn't make Cleveland any scarier. In fact, by Shaq taking minutes away from Big Z all you're going to do is clog the paint for when LeBron drives. Big Z was ideal for LeBron because he's a jump shooter and he pulls the interior D out of the paint, thus opening holes for LeBron to drive. Shaq does no such thing.

You could make the argument that by doing that and removing the defense+gritty play of wallace+sasha (role players though they were) this is a step back

I don't see how this trade does anything but push LeBron out the door.

I think its an admission that they know he has no interest in resigning with them. If he was, he'd have signed a max extension already. They know they have exactly one year to try to win a championship.

Cleveland is stupid for getting/going after Shaq. I think it is a big step backwards for them.

Was listening to an interview of a 'NBA draft expert' on local KC radio. He said that the Mavericks are targeting DeMarre Carroll with the 24th pick. They traded down a couple of spots to pick up some extra picks while still being in a spot where Carroll should be still available (most project him at the end of 1st round). Of course, this all depends on if he's selected sooner (doubtful) or if a better player slides down the board to them (possible).

Shaq clogging the lanes certainly didn't seem to hurt D-Wade. And when LeBron drives and the defense converges, there'll be no hope of stopping even 70 yr old Shaq when LeBron gets him the ball at the hoop.

I think that's a great point on Z being able to step out and free the lane and a whole host of other problems that go with this.

What do you do with Varejao now? Let him walk? How do you play him and Shaq at the same time? At least with Z, Varejao can post and Z can step out. He's going to want big money - what reason is there to pay him that kind of dough now?

Cleveland still doesn't have a great three point shooting threat. The fact that the other defenders can sag off perimeter players to either help on the drive or rotate to take away the passing lane to Shaq is a factor too.

Columnist Peter Vescey's NBA sources indicate the Rockets are "leaning toward" trading Tracy McGrady, Carl Landry and Aaron Brooks to the Suns for Leandro Barbosa and Amare Stoudemire.

Stoudemire has been disgruntled in Phoenix for a while now, and ESPN's Ric Bucher reported on Thursday that he will indeed be traded. The Suns would acquire two solid young players in Landry and Brooks, while gaining financial flexibility with T-Mac's expiring $22 million contract. So far nothing is official, but stay tuned throughout what promises to be a hectic draft day.

Houston would rock if they could swing that deal and re-sign Artest.

What the hell is the point in making picks 6-30 of Chad Ford's mock draft only available to insider users?

What the hell is the point in making picks 6-30 of Chad Ford's mock draft only available to insider users?

I chuckled when I saw that, too. I can't imagine that there is one person who thought to themselves, "well, I've been on the fence about Insider, but seeing who gets taken at pick #23 is worth paying for it."

I guess the theory is that picks 1-5 are the teaser. But, for 95% of the people who care about the NBA draft, it is more than a teaser. It is the whole story.

Just a strange decision to break it up like that. Either make the whole thing insider, like they do for Kiper, or make it general. Although I guess ESPN knows what they are doing based on the insane amount of $$ that they have made. Who I am to give them business advice?

Im not certain it is such a horrible deal for Cleveland. They didnt give up anything and Shaq was pretty good on the offensive end last year. Shaq can up his defense when he needs to and I really doubt Howard is going to be able to bully him. Shaq can also open up the outside a little more and is a very good passer that will create shots for Gibson and Wally.(if he stays)

This will also give Cleveland a low post threat which they have been lacking. Big Z is anything but a low post threat.

I'd probably let Andy walk, unless he settles for a 3-4 year deal starting at 6m MAX. He's not worth much more than the MLE.

And he's been one of my favorite players, at least until the stupid hold out in 2007

Im not certain it is such a horrible deal for Cleveland. They didnt give up anything and Shaq was pretty good on the offensive end last year. Shaq can up his defense when he needs to and I really doubt Howard is going to be able to bully him. Shaq can also open up the outside a little more and is a very good passer that will create shots for Gibson and Wally.(if he stays)

This will also give Cleveland a low post threat which they have been lacking. Big Z is anything but a low post threat.

Not a bad deal for Cleveland at all. They have a one year window. That's it. Chances are LBJ isn't coming back so go for it now because it's going to be a dark, dark period coming up for Cleveland after this season.

Knicks bought the Lakers' 29th overall pick for $3 million. ESPN says they're looking for a guard at that slot, but maybe a little extra ammo for a trade into the 6th/7th spot?

Not a bad deal for Cleveland at all. They have a one year window. That's it. Chances are LBJ isn't coming back so go for it now because it's going to be a dark, dark period coming up for Cleveland after this season.

What's the reasoning behind LeBron leaving? I mean, I understand "big markets", but he's also a hometown boy who has a fanbase completed devoted to him. In addition, he's already a huge national sports presence - not like being in New York is really going to make him MORE famous nationally. I assume he gets more local advertising contracts, but is the money for those so huge as to make him basically have to leave even if he wanted to stay in Cleveland?

What's the reasoning behind LeBron leaving? I mean, I understand "big markets", but he's also a hometown boy who has a fanbase completed devoted to him. In addition, he's already a huge national sports presence - not like being in New York is really going to make him MORE famous nationally. I assume he gets more local advertising contracts, but is the money for those so huge as to make him basically have to leave even if he wanted to stay in Cleveland?

Well it's easier to attract other FA to New York or other big markets then it is a place like Cleveland or Detroit. Plus New York is building a team right now for LeBron and there is a better then good chance Chris Bosh is going to join him wherever he goes. Add in one of the better Head Coaches in the NBA who has a working relationship with and New York seems like a dream destination.

He said he wants to be the first billion dollar athlete as well. He will get a lot more chances for that in NY then Cleveland.

What's the reasoning behind LeBron leaving?

An inept front office and head coach might have something to do with it to.

What's the reasoning behind LeBron leaving? I mean, I understand "big markets", but he's also a hometown boy who has a fanbase completed devoted to him. In addition, he's already a huge national sports presence - not like being in New York is really going to make him MORE famous nationally. I assume he gets more local advertising contracts, but is the money for those so huge as to make him basically have to leave even if he wanted to stay in Cleveland?


Its been estimated since he entered the league that his value as an endorser is worth $100 million more in New York or LA than it is in Cleveland.

Knicks bought the Lakers' 29th overall pick for $3 million. ESPN says they're looking for a guard at that slot, but maybe a little extra ammo for a trade into the 6th/7th spot?

Can you trade picks for cash in the NBA? didn't know.

Can you trade picks for cash in the NBA? didn't know.


For up to $3 million. The Suns did it several years in a row, I believe, when they were deluded that they were close to a championship.

Can you trade picks for cash in the NBA? didn't know.

No, the Lakers will still have to make the pick. The Knicks will just have to trade the appropriate amount of salary fodder and send a nice check to the Lakers - at least I think that's the case anyways.

The Celtics bought Rondo from the Suns.

DeRozen seems like a freakish athlete. I havent actually seen much of him play, seemed to disappear in USC games I watched. What do those of you that have seen him play a lot think of his game? He seems like one of the few players that could actually be a star in this draft based on his skill set.

Can you trade picks for cash in the NBA? didn't know.


I wish they couldnt! The Twolves traded Roy similiar to this method and it pi$$ed me off. They initially drafted Roy ahead of Foye but then promptly traded him for Foye and some cash considerations.

This is the first NBA draft i'm going to watch live, I'm really curious about Rubio's future. I'm pretty sure he will end in the Kings or Thunder, but Spanish websites have him rumored to go to the Knicks or even Celtics (i don't believe that one).

Btw, I have seen that it starts at EST 7:30PM, but... does it really start at that time or is there a lot of ceremony stuff before the clock starts?

Sounds like the Kings are gonna pass on Rubio. Or so reports Yahoo. I don't see Rubio falling past either of Minnesotas picks.

The Kings allegedly are saying they would pass on him but I don't know if I buy that - the biggest rumor right now with Rubio is the Thunder take him to trade him to the Knicks for David Lee in a sign and trade. Minnesota may still try to get to #2 to get him but Memphis wants Love and 5 or 6 and that won't (or at least shouldn't) happen

No, the Lakers will still have to make the pick. The Knicks will just have to trade the appropriate amount of salary fodder and send a nice check to the Lakers - at least I think that's the case anyways.

Im pretty sure they just buy it outright.

Its been estimated since he entered the league that his value as an endorser is worth $100 million more in New York or LA than it is in Cleveland.

As national as our economy is, I just don't get this. Why would Nike pay him more if he was playing for the Knicks or Lakers? He's in the same league, making the same playoffs, getting the same national exposure. Tiger Woods seems plenty valuable without being a New York or LA athlete...

In looking it up the draft pick's trade value is $0 until he signs a contract so I think what has to happen is that LA actually makes the pick for the Knicks and then trades the rights to the pick for cash to NY and then NY signs the player.

The Kings allegedly are saying they would pass on him but I don't know if I buy that - the biggest rumor right now with Rubio is the Thunder take him to trade him to the Knicks for David Lee in a sign and trade. Minnesota may still try to get to #2 to get him but Memphis wants Love and 5 or 6 and that won't (or at least shouldn't) happen

As a semi-Knick fan I would sign for that in a second. Lee is a very good player but won't be worth the money he gets.

As a semi-Knick fan I would sign for that in a second. Lee is a very good player but won't be worth the money he gets.

I agree. Lee does a lot of things well but is not worth a #2 in any draft. If he played better defense he probably would be.

Sounds like the Kings are gonna pass on Rubio. Or so reports Yahoo. I don't see Rubio falling past either of Minnesotas picks.

This could get interesting as from what I can tell Memphis or Sacremento have no interest in Rubio and Okl City just drafted Westbrooke last year so I doubt they really want to take another PG. I really hope the wolves dont have to trade up to get the guy they want but it never seems to work that way for that franchise.

As national as our economy is, I just don't get this. Why would Nike pay him more if he was playing for the Knicks or Lakers? He's in the same league, making the same playoffs, getting the same national exposure. Tiger Woods seems plenty valuable without being a New York or LA athlete...

Because there are more NY/LA fans with more money that will buy the merchandise because he plays in their city.

I used to live for the NBA draft. Now I don't even get a halfie....stupid Clay Bennett etc. al.

As national as our economy is, I just don't get this. Why would Nike pay him more if he was playing for the Knicks or Lakers? He's in the same league, making the same playoffs, getting the same national exposure. Tiger Woods seems plenty valuable without being a New York or LA athlete...

this type of thing baffles me too. i can understand it with athletes that are not global superstars, but for your Jordan's, your Tiger Woods', etc. it really doesn't seem to matter.

The only thing it will mean is more Knicks games on TV, which means more advertising dollars for the networks, but LeBron doesn't see any of that.

Ok, so Dallas trades #22 to Portland for #24, #56, and their worst 2nd next year.

...Why?

#56 and a similar pick next year are worthless- guys drafted that low hardly ever make a team, particularly for a veteran squad like Dallas where most of the team is set.

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Little cheaper to have #24 in the draft. Plus 2nd rounders are commodities as they aren't guaranteed.

The Celtics bought Rondo from the Suns.
The Bulls bought Luol Deng from the Suns. I always wondered how good that team could have been had they kept their first round picks.

Rubio falling to the T-Wolves would be a godsend for them. They'd have the makings of a nice core and would garner some interest. It's be one of the teams I'd look forward to seeing come to Chicago to play.

Little cheaper to have #24 in the draft. Plus 2nd rounders are commodities as they aren't guaranteed.

Cuban also Tweeted that he felt they could get the guy they wanted at 24, so assuming he's right, he picks up a couple of shots on the roulette wheel at no cost.

In looking it up the draft pick's trade value is $0 until he signs a contract so I think what has to happen is that LA actually makes the pick for the Knicks and then trades the rights to the pick for cash to NY and then NY signs the player.

Looks like this is right.

For example,

"Portland acquired the draft rights to 27th pick Sergio Rodríguez from Phoenix in exchange for cash considerations."

But Rodriguez is listed as being drafted by Phoenix. I thought they sold the picks, but it looks like they make the pick and then sell the rights. A technicality, they are in effect selling the picks.

The Celtics bought Rondo from the Suns.

Nope, the Suns paid cash to get rid of him:

Boston acquired the draft rights to 21st pick Rajon Rondo, Brian Grant and cash considerations from Phoenix in exchange for a 2007 first-round draft pick.


As national as our economy is, I just don't get this. Why would Nike pay him more if he was playing for the Knicks or Lakers? He's in the same league, making the same playoffs, getting the same national exposure. Tiger Woods seems plenty valuable without being a New York or LA athlete...

Well, the national media is based in NY and LA, so I happen to think that he'll get more national exposure by being there than he does now. As for having a dedicated following in Cleveland, so what? He has more fans RIGHT NOW in NY than he does in Cleveland. Add in the fact that its easier to charge $150 for a pair of shoes in NY than in Cleveland, and I can see where he's way more valuable in NY than Cleveland.

This could get interesting as from what I can tell Memphis or Sacremento have no interest in Rubio

I think he's going to be the bust of the year from what I can tell, his asset is passing and court vision. He has a horrendous shot. That passing and court vision won't look so impressive once everyone figures out he can't get around anyone on his own. I just don't read anything that indicates NBA skills here.

I agree with you that he'll make his way down to a stunned Minnesota.

The draft WILL go like this:
1) Griffin - duh
2) Thabeet - only big man in a big man hungry league
3) Steven Curry
4) Tyreke Evans
5/6) Rubio & Jordan Hill
7) James Harden
8) Johnny Flynn
9) DeMar DeRozen
10) Brandon Jennings
11) Tyler Hansbrough
12) Terrence Williams
13) Jrue Holliday

In the NBA, all if these trades you're hearing about really aren't official until, hell I don't know when. So, when you hear about these trades for picks, etc, the team who holds the pick originally drafts the player the other team wants. Then, whenever the day is, all of these trades become official and you see players being traded for each other, not traded for picks.

I think I have that right. Tell me to shut up if it's not.

I read yesterday that there's a time limit on when traded picks can be officially made by the receiving team...something like if its finalized by noon on draft day, any later and they need to put on the charade.

I can't wait to see Howard abuse Shaq next season. The Suns never should have hired Kerr.
Mike D'Antoni had to talk Steve Kerr and Dave Griffin into making the Shaq deal. Neither wanted to do it. Kerr's been in a tough spot as the first thing he was told by the owner was to shave off $10 million from the salary while still being competitive. So, he had to move Kurt Thomas to Seattle (OKC now) for a trade exception and give them 2 first round picks. He was then told by his coach (Mike D) that the only shot they had at a playoff run was trading Marion for Shaq. Granted, he could have said no, but these were both in his first season as GM. These next two seasons will let us know how good a GM Kerr is.

the nba trading system and salary-dump trades really fuck with my enjoyment of the league.
Now it looks like both Oberto and Bowen may be coming back to SA in a few months. What a joke the NBA is if Jefferson, Oberto and Bowen are on SA's roster come October. But, the NBA trading system is ridiculous, so it shouldn't really surprise anyone. I'm guessing Pop isn't going to be quite as interested in the "trade approval board" if he ends up with Jefferson and 2 of the 3 guys he traded for him as he was when the Lakers added Gasol a few seasons back.

There's a ton of speculation on the Rockets board that the Rox are going to trade TMac and Aaron Brooks for Amare Stoudamire and an expensive body (Barbosa is the most commonly seen name). Then they would use Carl Landry as trade bait to move up in the draft to get a PG to replace Brooks...

Arles, are y'all hearing anything like that out your way?
Anything's possible. I haven't heard of a straight salary dump for Amare and I doubt they do that with the cash they saved from moving Shaq. I could see Amare getting moved, but they would need more than a net of Aaron Brooks (esp if Barbosa goes as well). I think Amare stays as no one will be willing to offer what Phoenix wants.

One thing to think about is if Phoenix makes the #14 for #25 and their own pick in 2010 deal with OK City, you may see Amare dumped as well. That will be a clear indication they plan on sucking next season ;)

Another Amare rumor:

The Suns are in discussions with the Warriors to send Amare Stoudemire to Golden State for center Andris Biedrins and the No. 7 pick in Thursday's draft.

I could see that one more than the Houston one. But I'm not sure how the salaries work.

Vince Carter may get moved to Orlando for Alston, Battie and Lee:

Sources: New Jersey Nets to ship Vince Carter to Orlando Magic for Rafer Alston - ESPN (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=4287197)

There goes me liking Orlando.

I like Lee and have never been a Carter fan but if Turkoglu resigns that will make a pretty nice starting five. I didn't know anything about Anderson but looking at his stats he seems like a decent rebounder and shooter who is 6'10''.

The ESPN.com trade machine says this is good for +7 wins next year so I'll focus on that instead of my dislike of Vince Carter. At least he only has two years left on his contract. With no Battie and Gortat likely on his way they'll have to get another big man at some point.

Hawks get Jamal Crawford (and a promise he won't exercise his out clause for two years) from the Warriors in return for Speedy Claxton & Acie Law.

Columnist Peter Vescey's NBA sources indicate the Rockets are "leaning toward" trading Tracy McGrady, Carl Landry and Aaron Brooks to the Suns for Leandro Barbosa and Amare Stoudemire.

Stoudemire has been disgruntled in Phoenix for a while now, and ESPN's Ric Bucher reported on Thursday that he will indeed be traded. The Suns would acquire two solid young players in Landry and Brooks, while gaining financial flexibility with T-Mac's expiring $22 million contract. So far nothing is official, but stay tuned throughout what promises to be a hectic draft day.

I would hate to lose both Landry and Brooks in the deal, leaving us with Kyle Lowry as our sole PG. And it might give us the most injury prone frontcourt in the league with Amare and Yao. Yet the possibility of this trade excites me for some reason. Ah well, in Daryl Morey I trust...

Local Phoenix radio just said there's no interest from the Phoenix side in the Houston deal and that it's completely false. They did say there's some interest in a Golden State deal that would involve Biedrins, #7 and one other player (Belinelli or Wright).

They also just said this rumor - Suns move Ben Wallace's expiring contract + picks/cash to New orleans for Tyson Chandler. Sounds like Wallace will do a buyout - which would save the Hornets $3-4 million this season and over $13 million next season. Chandler would be a better fit in the Suns uptempo offense than Shaq.

Not sure I buy it, but it is interesting.

Draftexpress says that the trade of Sergio Rodriguez to Sacramento from Portland is done. Does it mean they want an Spanish there to help Rubio to adapt to the NBA quicker?

Local Phoenix radio just said there's no interest from the Phoenix side in the Houston deal and that it's completely false. They did say there's some interest in a Golden State deal that would involve Biedrins, #7 and one other player (Belinelli or Wright).

Now there´s reports of both Wright and Belinelli in adition to Beans and the 7th pick, which would actually be good value all things considered :eek:

Hope Nash stays. If nothing else we´d get 1 or possibly 2 more years (pending on how his body keeps up) of vintage 7 seconds or less. And Wright and Biedrins better be prepared to get a lot of Pick and Roll passes all of a sudden, which both could be pretty good at from what i k now.
Plus the 7 might end up being Curry. Seriously, this team would really intrigue me.
And at 14 maybe Terrence Williams or Earl Clark ?
Plus Belinelli isn´t bad either, could end up being a solid 20 minute guy on a good team.

definitely an interesting idea :popcorn:

Draftexpress says that the trade of Sergio Rodriguez to Sacramento from Portland is done. Does it mean they want an Spanish there to help Rubio to adapt to the NBA quicker?

doubt it. Rodriguez wants to play, can´t see him going into veteran-mode and be a assistant coach in uniform ... I mean, Udrih is still there as well. But maybe Udrih will be traded ? (doubt it though, is overpaid and just not close to starting material. His per-minute production is highly subpar ... )
Doesn´t mean they won´t draft a PG (Evans, Flynn), just that i can´t see them trading for Rodriguez because they want to take (and keep) Rubio.
Rubio might actually fall to the Wolves, who then could snatch him AND another player at 6 without doing another trade.

btw via draftexpress :


7:35

No team or agent has any clue what is going to happen. That's the bottom line. Everyone is calling everyone and no one can really say what is going to happen.
those last 2 days have been crazy :eek:


Rubio could also go at 3, Presti apparently didn´t give any indicationa dn they did hire a law firm in spain. But who knows, right now it´s wild guessing all arround :D

Ouch, things look bad for Rubio, even if he is picked at #5, his contract won't be enough profitable to pay his release clause, so he might decide to stay in Spain.

no big surprise yet,

1)Griffin
2)Thabeet (what happens to Gasol ? Neither can move to the 4 spot, Gasol is a starter)
3)Harden (makes sense, they needed a 2 guard)
4)Evans (makes sense again, he´s gonna be good right away and fits next to Martin who doesn´t need the ball terribly much to score a ton)

Now the Wolves. Definitely gonna be a good and intriguing duo here at 5,6 for them. Rubio should be a lock for them to take, can´t pass on him with 2 picks here. Then Curry makes most sense ... Or they draft big and take Hill.

Ouch, things look bad for Rubio, even if he is picked at #5, his contract won't be enough profitable to pay his release clause, so he might decide to stay in Spain.

he´s stated yesterday though that he´s going to make it happen, no matter where picked. He looks pleased enough as well.

Finally.
Not a bad thing as it's a team rebuilding from zero with all those picks, so he could be the starter and have a ton of minutes. He said he didn't like the city weather but... anyway let's see what happens with his contract buyout.

On the other hand, i'm so happy about Sergio Rodriguez going to Sacramento, as he had no future in Portland. Let's see if he can finally show why he was for some time the most promising Spanish player.

I can't get to nba.com, fantastic.

What the ... ? Now this is a combination of picks that makes no sense at all if they don´t trade one of them ?
Not only do they take 2 PGs but also 2 PGs that lack a good outside shot so playing both together would be kind of a bad idea...

Rubio's sponsors will pay his buyout.

Umm another guard? maybe Rubio will end in the Knicks by a trade as he wanted?

The all PG team they are making will be fun to watch ;)

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Knicks fans are so funny

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Knick fans thought they were getting Curry, tough luck.

I love seeing Golden State doing that to the Knicks.

I was hoping Flynn somehow dropped to the Pacers.

I like Lee and have never been a Carter fan but if Turkoglu resigns that will make a pretty nice starting five. I didn't know anything about Anderson but looking at his stats he seems like a decent rebounder and shooter who is 6'10''.

The ESPN.com trade machine says this is good for +7 wins next year so I'll focus on that instead of my dislike of Vince Carter. At least he only has two years left on his contract. With no Battie and Gortat likely on his way they'll have to get another big man at some point.


I would say better than a pretty nice starting 5. I think that would become the best starting 5 in the league. Nice move for Orlando.

NICE! Well, Don Nelson won't require him to play defense either so he is in good shape

Is Matt Millen the GM of the T-Wolves?

haha. hahaha. hahahaha. I don't actually dislike the Knicks but that was pretty funny. I think that's Karma for telling everybody for the last month that you plan to take a guy at a certain position.

Lol @ New York´s collective uproar over the Warriors taking Curry :D

Curry meets Nelly-ball = :popcorn:

Hill is the 3rd best player in the draft IMO, and the Knicks have him fall to their laps. If they pass on him, oh boy.

I wanna see Curry playing Nelly-ball.

lol at the little kid giving the thumbs down and his dad twisting his wrist into a thumbs up

The Knicks just drafted Mikki Moore.

That's a nice pick. Knicks fans are morons.

It is unreal how many busts there are in the NBA draft. When ESPN shows the first round picks from the last 5 years, it's like a who's who of crappy players and unheard of again Euro's. No wonder so many of these teams are picking high every year.

Who is better, Chris Bosh or Jordan Hill?;)

Thought he didn't want to play in Canada, otherwise I like the pick.

I think DeRozan could be a poor man's DWade, but he will need a lot of time to develop. He really didn't perform for SC at all until the last month of the season, and that was against college level defenders.

Yeeesh. Jennings at 10?

Yeeesh. Jennings at 10?

Not saying it's a good pick, but what really is out there now?

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Hollinger's draft rater has Jordan Hill and DeRozan as the two biggest busts in this draft. It rated Hill in the mid-20s, so not too huge of a bust but still a disappointment. It has DeRozan rated 54th, though.

It'll be interesting to see how they do.

Detroit should take Maynor 15 if he is available but they'll take Mullens. So yeah, I am ready for a wasted pick.

Not saying it's a good pick, but what really is out there now?

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Eric Maynor. Kid will be a stud.

Don't congratulate the Knicks too much for that pick. Somehow, Hill is going to Minnesota for Rubio, probably with David Lee once the Knicks can sign him.

Detroit should take Maynor 15 if he is available but they'll take Mullens. So yeah, I am ready for a wasted pick.

I honestly can't see how Maynor could go ahead of Ty Lawson.

Terrence Williams is the guy that carries a Barbie backpack and has Spongebob socks right?

Detroit should take Maynor 15 if he is available but they'll take Mullens. So yeah, I am ready for a wasted pick.

Good Lord, I hope that guarantee to Mullens is just a rumor. The guy is a stiff and a tool.

I'd take Earl Clark happily.

Larry Bird is a dumbass.

I'm surprised that Hansbrough went that early.

lol look - we have shitty PG's but we're going to take a big white stiff!

Bird's a racist.

Troy Mruphy, Mike Dunleavy........was there any doubt that Hansbrough would be the pick there?

Ugh. Joe D just don't take Mullens or Daye. Please.

Ugh. Joe D just don't take Mullens or Daye. Please.

+1

There was mention locally that the Pacers were looking to trade for later picks with Chicago. I really hope that's what this is.

The Pacers are petitioning to the NBA to include diving for loose balls as an official stat.

Damn. I would have liked Earl Clark.

Damn. I would have liked Earl Clark.

It's okay Schmidty. I'll send you a Mullens jersey shirt.

It's okay Schmidty. I'll send you a Mullens jersey shirt.

Can you overnight it? I'm on my last roll of toilet paper.

There was mention locally that the Pacers were looking to trade for later picks with Chicago. I really hope that's what this is.

I wouldn't mind having Hansborough in Chicago. He's someone who can step in and play right away. Will give you some energy and minutes off the bench. I'd look at it as a free agent pickup that is much cheaper than actually signing a free agent.

Blah.

What a waste of a pick. I am glad we weren't content with having one Tayshaun Prince. He is 192 lbs and nearly 7 foot. Unreal.

Great pick. Can never have enough Small Forwards.

What a waste of a pick. I am glad we weren't content with having one Tayshaun Prince. He is 192 lbs and nearly 7 foot. Unreal.

Yeah, he's Tayshaun 2.0.

Joe has lost it.

Van Gundy, lmao.

Daye makes Tayshaun look like the Hulk.

But back to this shit sandwhich of a pick.

So now we have an unatheltic near 7 footer who weights 190 lbs and is not someone who mixes it up down low. Amazing.

Hey now the last draftee who could not bench press his weight did pretty well


Okay you are right, I don't see this pick as making any sense.

Tayshaun being traded to Celtics for Rondo then. ;)

But back to this shit sandwhich of a pick.

So now we have an unatheltic near 7 footer who weights 190 lbs and is not someone who mixes it up down low. Amazing.

Bargnani has worked out well.

Kevin Durant just called Austin Daye a pussy.

While I hate to have a Bruin on my team, I like that pick as the best option to fill a need.

Can I go on record now by stating that Ty Lawson will be the steal of the draft?

ROFL

All-PG lineup eh... haha.

If they don't have trades already worked out this could backfire very badly.

Minnesota wtf, they have to be making a trade tonight right?

If they don't have trades already worked out this could backfire very badly.

Agree, they NEED to trade now, and when you need something and everybody knows it, you lose a lot of negotiation strength.

Ummmm okay

Lawson to Denver. I like it.

Ty Lawson to Denver?

It's the new Triangle Offense...set up at the 3 point stripe.

Didn't their new GM say he's gonna make a bang? Jefferson, three PGs, and whoever else they have as a starting lineup. ;)

Maybe he wants to invent a new offense all with PG's, like that ultra spread offense in high school football.

Is Matt Millen the GM of the T-Wolves?

Nope Wolves actually have someone smart running the operation now. Taking best available player instead of taking some player every knows will suck. Flynn is a beast. Just curious who would have you taken in that spot?

If the Suns end up moving Amare to Golden State for Biedrins, Wright and Belinelli, they will have Nash, Richardson, Clark, Biedrins, Wright, Belinelli, Barbosa, Lopez, Dudley and Goran Dragic as their top 10 (with Amundson as well). Their next move may be to trade for Don Nelson as they have basically become the 2006 Golden State Warriors. They'll also have only $33 million in guaranteed salary going into the 2010 offseason.

They will lose, but it will be in style and at a high pace ;)

Nope Wolves actually have someone smart running the operation now. Taking best available player instead of taking some player every knows will suck. Flynn is a beast. Just curious who would have you taken in that spot?

Three PGs in the top 20?

And now starting at PG for the Minnesota Timberwolves...... Everyone?

Three PGs in the top 20?

Well obviously Lawson is getting traded and Ive been seeing rumors of Rubio going to the Knicks for Nate Robinson/Jordan Hill. It will all work out give him a chance.

They need a PG while Rubio is getting ready, and just in case one fails they have another I guess.

Well obviously Lawson is getting traded and Ive been seeing rumors of Rubio going to the Knicks for Nate Robinson/Jordan Hill. It will all work out give him a chance.

But then it's not fun. ;) Three PGs is more entertaining.

Can I go on record now by stating that Ty Lawson will be the steal of the draft?

I'm obviously slightly biased but I agree.

But then it's not fun. ;) Three PGs is more entertaining.

LOL It would have been unique.

I actually wanted Flynn but I wasnt sure who else they should have taken. I really didnt see anyone else worth a 5/6 pick so under them circumstances I think he did the smart thing. Im really not even sure why they need Jordan Hill considering they have Jefferson/Love at PF.

Thomas? Songaila?

My guess is the Wolves will draft Thabeet and Jordan Hill, and start the first "All Center" team in NBA history.

Between this and the draft tonight, maybe they're going for the extremes and trying out a 3 PG/2 C lineup

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I think it may be time for some of the underclassmen who decided to declare early to sweat a bit.

Portland loading up on Spanish dudes? I'd like to see someone try that (get a significant portion of their roster from one good national team). I thought Collangelo would try it in Toronto.

Looks like Curry may be part of the Amare deal. Local radio is saying that the deal is Amare for Curry, Biedrins and Wright (with maybe Belinelli as well). They've said that Golden State is already negotiating a long term extension with Amare and the deal can't be announced because Biedrins is a base year guy and the cap numbers won't work until FA begins:

Curry pick part of likely Amare deal (http://www.azcentral.com/sports/suns/articles/2009/06/25/20090625spt-sunsonline.html)

EA better improve the NBA Live series now that Howard is on the cover. He should have waited to be on the NBA2k cover down the road.

I don't watch the NBA but it is a surprise that Blair still hasn't been picked?

Looks like Curry may be part of the Amare deal. Local radio is saying that the deal is Amare for Curry, Biedrins and Wright (with maybe Belinelli as well). They've said that Golden State is already negotiating a long term extension with Amare and the deal can't be announced because Biedrins is a base year guy and the cap numbers won't work until FA begins:

Curry pick part of likely Amare deal (http://www.azcentral.com/sports/suns/articles/2009/06/25/20090625spt-sunsonline.html)

Hm... interesting, but not sure what to think of that

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I don't watch the NBA but it is a surprise that Blair still hasn't been picked?

Yes, he was expected to go in the 15~20 range but his injury history might be scaring some teams.

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Looks like Curry may be part of the Amare deal. Local radio is saying that the deal is Amare for Curry, Biedrins and Wright (with maybe Belinelli as well). They've said that Golden State is already negotiating a long term extension with Amare and the deal can't be announced because Biedrins is a base year guy and the cap numbers won't work until FA begins:

Curry pick part of likely Amare deal (http://www.azcentral.com/sports/suns/articles/2009/06/25/20090625spt-sunsonline.html)

Makes no sense to me what the Kings are doing. They'll have an injury prone Amare (who they will pay max money for) and no one.

Portland apparently offering Oden for Rubio.

Makes no sense to me what the Kings are doing. They'll have an injury prone Amare (who they will pay max money for) and no one.

Kevin Martin is a stud. Im guessing u meant gGolden State though:)

Yes, he was expected to go in the 15~20 range but his injury history might be scaring some teams.

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Raw numbers might play a part of it as well. 6'6 277lbs for a 4 is a tough sell for a lot of teams

Kevin Martin is a stud. Im guessing u meant gGolden State though:)
Yeah sorry, Golden State. I just don't get it.

Portland apparently offering Oden for Rubio.

Uhh... I would not do that if I were Minnesota. But it would be interesting for the all-Spanish team. ;)

Yeah sorry, Golden State. I just don't get it.

Yeah who knows about them. Monta Ellis is a good player but Stephen Jackson is a cancer that shoots all the time. I dont see Amar'e making them much better than what they are either.

Uhh... I would not do that if I were Minnesota. But it would be interesting for the all-Spanish team. ;)

Portland would be Icy's new favorite team.

Oh snap...MBBF just got wood.

Woohoo! DeMarre picked at #27 by the Grizzlies! Halfway between Vanderbilt and Mizzou. :D Guaranteed money. Good for him.

I don't know why, but I never look forward to the second round. It's more boring than the 6th and 7th rounds in the NFL draft. It just seems so rare that a player becomes anything more than bench player after being selected in the 2nd round. I know my perception is probably wrong, but it just feels that way.

Of course, this year, the Pistons have 3 2nd rounders, so I might pay a little more attention. (Draft Goran Suton please).

Oh snap...MBBF just got wood.

Don't hate. :D

I don't know why, but I never look forward to the second round. It's more boring than the 6th and 7th rounds in the NFL draft. It just seems so rare that a player becomes anything more than bench player after being selected in the 2nd round. I know my perception is probably wrong, but it just feels that way.

Of course, this year, the Pistons have 3 2nd rounders, so I might pay a little more attention. (Draft Goran Suton please).

Michael Redd?

I don't know why, but I never look forward to the second round. It's more boring than the 6th and 7th rounds in the NFL draft. It just seems so rare that a player becomes anything more than bench player after being selected in the 2nd round. I know my perception is probably wrong, but it just feels that way.

Of course, this year, the Pistons have 3 2nd rounders, so I might pay a little more attention. (Draft Goran Suton please).

I think NFL 6th rounders have a better chance of being on the team after year 1 than 2nd round NBA players

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Ellington was a steal there. Maybe the wolves will change their mind and trade Rubio and keep Lawson. Draft Danny Green in the 2nd round and they may be on to something.

Are Wolves fans cheering because they didn't take another PG?

As the local CAA homer that only knows some about the NBA..

How will Maynor fit in at Utah? What is their PG situation like? Does he have the chance to contribute over the next several years?

As the local CAA homer that only knows some about the NBA..

How will Maynor fit in at Utah? What is their PG situation like? Does he have the chance to contribute over the next several years?

Not as a starter as Utah has one of the best PGs in the NBA. Utah is a good fit though as sloan does a great job of finding roles for his players.

Duh - Deron Williams. So no chance he starts (I think he was doomed if he started anyways).. but what's their depth like?

Darko to the knicks?

which would be his 6th nba team. Still early in his career, hes got a good chance to get to half of the NBA

Not as a starter as Utah has one of the best PGs in the NBA. Utah is a good fit though as sloan does a great job of finding roles for his players.

Good to know. I enjoyed watching him in college. I have questions about how he'll work in the NBA - namely I'm not sure about his shooting. But he has the athleticism, size, and "court vision" to succeed as a PG.

Are Wolves fans cheering because they didn't take another PG?

LOL

They keep bringing them in and one of them has to turn out right?

Good to know. I enjoyed watching him in college. I have questions about how he'll work in the NBA - namely I'm not sure about his shooting. But he has the athleticism, size, and "court vision" to succeed as a PG.

Yup, Sloan carried a deep bench last year in which I believe 9 players averaged more than 18 minutes per game so he will get his chances. Plus Deron is injury prone. I like Maynor a lot as well. Too bad it was such a deep PG draft of he could have gone much higher.

Yup, Sloan carried a deep bench last year in which I believe 9 players averaged more than 18 minutes per game so he will get his chances. Plus Deron is injury prone. I like Maynor a lot as well. Too bad it was such a deep PG draft of he could have gone much higher.

Yes, to Minnesota ;)

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As a Pitt fan and a fan of NCAA ball, it's now been confirmed to me that the NBA is indeed a joke. May all the executives not taking Blair or Young get canned sometime in the next 5 years.

Hard to believe that Young and Blair go undrafted (in the first round) out of Pitt. I can understand the questions about Blair, with his injury history and size (both height and weight), but Young seems like the perfect combination of size/skill/athleticism to be a solid NBA wing.

Patty Mills also falls to the 2nd... interesting.

Man, I'd love to have Blair at this point.

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Man, I'd love to have Blair at this point.

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+1

Chase Budinger has a shot to be a decent 2nd rounder it seems as well.

Not drafting Blair is just crazy. He'll be able to step in and give you rebounds right away. Not a starter or anything but a guy who can give you 10-15 tough minutes a night. Teams in the draft are more worried about taking a shot at getting a star instead of drafting a good role player.

Patty Mills also falls to the 2nd... interesting.

I think this was expected

Agree with you guys on Blair/Young. Blair could be a beast against certain matchups and Young can do it all.

Well obviously Lawson is getting traded and Ive been seeing rumors of Rubio going to the Knicks for Nate Robinson/Jordan Hill. It will all work out give him a chance.

This draft was a disaster as soon as Harden and Evans went before the 5th pick, leaving the Wolves stuck with Rubio. Rubio lasting to 5 is the worst thing that could have happened, couldn't be less excited about drafting him. Dammit I wish he'd gone earlier, that trade with the Knicks would be absolutely terrible? What does Hill do for this team when they've already decided to build around 2 PFs who can't play another position very well?

Passing on Mullens at 18 will probably turn out to be another in a long line of mistakes by the Wolves in the draft. Besides having no one at the 2 or 3, they don't have anyone to start and center right now.

It is pretty amazing that, year after year, there are 40 or 50 underclassmen that leave early and think that they will be first round picks.

Patty Mills also falls to the 2nd... interesting.

He's a moron for coming out early. Hope he falls to the end.

Blair has scared teams off because of knee injuries and I've read that doctors were actually unable to find either of his ACLs in pre-draft exams.

This draft was a disaster as soon as Harden and Evans went before the 5th pick, leaving the Wolves stuck with Rubio. Rubio lasting to 5 is the worst thing that could have happened, couldn't be less excited about drafting him. Dammit I wish he'd gone earlier, that trade with the Knicks would be absolutely terrible? What does Hill do for this team when they've already decided to build around 2 PFs who can't play another position very well?

Its not a disaster. They are getting the best PG in the draft(Flynn). They stole Ellington who will be just fine as a SG. They will get a higher 1st rounder next year for Lawson and teams are apparently making offers left and right for Rubio.

I love this 2 minute clock

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THAT WAS AWESOME!!

Knicks fans: "AWWWWWWWW! Why Darko?!?!?!?"

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Blair has scared teams off because of knee injuries and I've read that doctors were actually unable to find either of his ACLs in pre-draft exams.
A team doesn't need him for 5+ years. Just draft him and use him as a backup PF who is real cheap for a couple years till his knees go. At the end of the 1st round you're only talking about a million or so dollars in guaranteed money. Much cheaper than a veteran who will want a few million.

For instance, he'd be a nice fit on Cleveland. But they chose a guy who won't be in the league for 3-5 years. Makes no fucking sense when you need to win this year. Although Cleveland is a bad example as they are one of the dumbest franchises in the league.

Summers is actually I pick I like. That's what we need down low.

A team doesn't need him for 5+ years. Just draft him and use him as a backup PF who is real cheap for a couple years till his knees go. At the end of the 1st round you're only talking about a million or so dollars in guaranteed money. Much cheaper than a veteran who will want a few million.

For instance, he'd be a nice fit on Cleveland. But they chose a guy who won't be in the league for 3-5 years. Makes no fucking sense when you need to win this year. Although Cleveland is a bad example as they are one of the dumbest franchises in the league.

Oh, I agree. I think he'd be a great fit for a team like San Antonio. However, I think a lot of GMs would rather look like dumbasses drafting a young guy with a lot of upside that busts than draft a guy like Blair, though.

For instance, he'd be a nice fit on Cleveland. But they chose a guy who won't be in the league for 3-5 years. Makes no fucking sense when you need to win this year. Although Cleveland is a bad example as they are one of the dumbest franchises in the league.

I thought Cleveland was a good landing spot but I guess I was wrong. Why pick someone who can help you now when you can pick a bust overseas?

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Following the yahoo chat blog thing, a fan asked who the clips would draft #1 next year and JE Skeets says, Blair, he probably will still be there.

I Lol'ed at that.

Again, that was awesome.

Stu (to Thorn): "Why did you trade away what is still one of the most electrifying players in the league in Vince Carter?"
Some fan in the crowd: "Because he sucks!"

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Notice how quick that pick was?

Spurs: "Crap? Blair's still on the board? Get the bald dude to the podium, stat!"

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That's a steal for the Spurs.

I really like the Spurs next year.

Oh, I agree. I think he'd be a great fit for a team like San Antonio. However, I think a lot of GMs would rather look like dumbasses drafting a young guy with a lot of upside that busts than draft a guy like Blair, though.

Or you can wait til the 2nd round and get him there

Damn, Spurs are going to be a huge problem in the Southwest this season

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Portland just drafted the worst player in the draft.

Spurs have made some damn good moves. give Blair 10-15 minutes a game next to duncan, and you get Richard Jefferson?

Or you can wait til the 2nd round and get him there

Well, San Antonio didn't have a first round pick I just thought they were a perfect pick. I was mostly targeting teams like the Lakers, Cleveland, and Chicago who could have used him. I picked San Antonio because I think he fits with what Pop wants out of his backups pefectly.

Portland just drafted the worst player in the draft.

He is headed to Sacramento

Agreed, SA has had a great offseason so far

Spurs have made some damn good moves. give Blair 10-15 minutes a game next to duncan, and you get Richard Jefferson?

I like Blair but Ive been wondering if Jefferson is a good fit for that style.

He is headed to Sacramento

Well congrats to the Kings on that one. Cant believe with some of these decent players left that stiff got drafted.

I like Blair but Ive been wondering if Jefferson is a good fit for that style.

Been wondering that too, but I'm pretty sure the Spurs coaching and front office has got it figured out.

I still don't get the T-Wolves draft. Why not just take Rubio and Curry and let them play? You'd have a nice young core with Love, Jefferson, Curry, and Rubio.

And he is ACTUALLY here tonight.....LOL

And Kenny Holland makes the Pistons second 2nd round pick.

3 SFs in a row??? Ugh.

I still don't get the T-Wolves draft. Why not just take Rubio and Curry and let them play? You'd have a nice young core with Love, Jefferson, Curry, and Rubio.

I think the chances that Curry busts are pretty high to be honest. Id compare him to Reddick who hasnt done much. At the best I could see him have a career like his dad as a top 6th man.

And he is ACTUALLY here tonight.....LOL
What's up with the foreign guys showing up?

I think the chances that Curry busts are pretty high to be honest. Id compare him to Reddick who hasnt done much. At the best I could see him have a career like his dad as a top 6th man.

I don't know. I think he's a little overated but he's got a lot of ability to score. He was constantly playing against defenses completely set for him and still scored at will. Reminds me a bit of Ben Gordon if he can add some strength.

Sounds like the Pistons drafted an awesome guy...

Summary: Jun 12 Update: Jerebko antagonized a few GMs when he showed up at the Reebok Eurocamp last Sunday and refused to play, telling me he was "too tired" to play after his team was jettisoned from the playoffs last Wednesday. However, he did play on Monday and looked really impressive according to the handful of NBA guys still there. ,p> However, the word now, from his agents, is that Jerebko is refusing to work out for teams looking at him in the second round. Multiple teams told me that his agents are telling them that he won't slip out of the first round.

Memphis is having one hell of a draft.

Meeks to the Bucks aint bad either.

I don't know. I think he's a little overated but he's got a lot of ability to score. He was constantly playing against defenses completely set for him and still scored at will. Reminds me a bit of Ben Gordon if he can add some strength.

Perhaps. Hes a hard one to judge. I mean a lot of times he would just dribble down the court and pop from 27 feet. Hes not shy thats for sure. Whether or not he can tone his style down and be effective against bigger/faster defenders is difficult to know.

Sounds like the Pistons drafted an awesome guy...

Meh.

I don't care if he's a dick. If he can play, I'll take him. Look at Rasheed.

Of course, I have no idea if he's any good.

Perhaps. Hes a hard one to judge. I mean a lot of times he would just dribble down the court and pop from 27 feet. Hes not shy thats for sure. Whether or not he can tone his style down and be effective against bigger defenders is difficult.
Well he was against box + 1 defenses constantly. It'll be interesting to see how he plays when he's being covered man-to-man. I think he has more upside than a lot of the guys in the draft and it would have been worth it for Minnesota to take a shot at him.

Well he was against box + 1 defenses constantly. It'll be interesting to see how he plays when he's being covered man-to-man. I think he has more upside than a lot of the guys in the draft and it would have been worth it for Minnesota to take a shot at him.

The thing with the box + 1 is he didnt really work through the defense he just shot from further out. I would have liked to have seen more patience and creating from him rather than chucking bombs outside the box + 1. Sure he didnt have much talent around him but .......

Wasn't Thornton high on some draft boards for a while?

Why is Dick V talking about college players in the NBA? Didnt he get canned as an NBA coach?

I really hate Dickie V.

And now budinger to the Pistons...Not sure about fitting in that system, but this far into the draft why not

The thing with the box + 1 is he didnt really work through the defense he just shot from further out. I would have liked to have seen more patience and creating from him rather than chucking bombs outside the box + 1. Sure he didnt have much talent around him but .......

He'll never see that in the NBA though.

Yay!!! 4 fucking SFs!!!!!

I really hate Dickie V.

He probably thinks pyscho T and Gerald Henderson should have been the top 2 picks.

Yay!!! 4 fucking SFs!!!!!

:eek: I think he's trying to be a 2

Dola, YAY another PG to the wolves. this one is pretty good value though me thinks: Nick Calathes

Just got home from work and a show in town, so just catching up. Interesting stuff that went on. James Johnson is a steal for the Bulls. Austin Daye is a huge reach.

You know a pick is bad when the highlights for the guy you drafted is 50% him dancing on the sidelines.

Curry to Golden State seems like a bad fit to me off hand. I like the trade the Nets made, even though Rafer Alston is spotty, Lee is a good young player.

Here comes PG#5 for Minny

lol.. Budinger got traded to the Rockets

Curry to Golden State seems like a bad fit to me off hand. I like the trade the Nets made, even though Rafer Alston is spotty, Lee is a good young player.

I actually think Knicks/Warriors are the two best fits for Curry. Athough dont the Warriors have 5 shooting guards already?

Here comes PG#5 for Minny

Patty Mills FTW

I think New Jersey was freeing up cap room to make a run at Lebron in 2010. Still think they are an untalked about dark horse in the sweepstakes. They'll be in Brooklyn by 2011 and unlike the Knicks, will have some talent to surround him with. They'll change their name to the Brooklyn Ballers and would allow Lebron to be a historic figure for a team with no history.

He's a moron for coming out early. Hope he falls to the end.

Agreed. When I heard Patty Mills came out early, I was truly confused. Maybe he was bored with college after playing international ball and figures that he can always go back to Australia and play for eucalyptus if things don't work out here.

I can only imagine how confused he makes the guys he plays against.

:eek: I think he's trying to be a 2

Yeah, that's probably true.

I actually just watched some YouTube vids on him, and he actually looks pretty damned good. But where do they play him? SF is packed and he's got Rip and Stuckey (when he's not being forced to play PG) there.

It should be interesting.

damn no PG #5.

I think New Jersey was freeing up cap room to make a run at Lebron in 2010. Still think they are an untalked about dark horse in the sweepstakes. They'll be in Brooklyn by 2011 and unlike the Knicks, will have some talent to surround him with. They'll change their name to the Brooklyn Ballers and would allow Lebron to be a historic figure for a team with no history.

They're not moving to Brooklyn. Seriously. Don't believe that hype, no matter what Bruce RATner says. We've been saying on the board for years and they're still in the swamp.

He will sell the team in the next 18 months and that'll be coupled with a move to Newark.

That said, the whole LeBron run makes sense. I hadn't remembered it.

Yeah, that's probably true.

I actually just watched some YouTube vids on him, and he actually looks pretty damned good. But where do they play him? SF is packed and he's got Rip and Stuckey (when he's not being forced to play PG) there.

It should be interesting.

It's ok, they traded him to the Rockets

Is Taylor Griffin the first brother to get drafted solely on the strength of his younger brother in the same draft?

Yay Taylor Griffin gets drafted by the Suns!

Hey, the Suns got the brother of Blake Griffin. Maybe he can join Robin Lopez and reach the Don Swayze, Frank Stallone, Ozzie Canseco level of disappointment Robin has been so far!

LThey must have a thing for drafting the worser of the brothers. See Robin Lopez

It's ok, they traded him to the Rockets

I must have missed that.

Is Taylor Griffin the first brother to get drafted solely on the strength of his younger brother in the same draft?
Nope, Suns did it last season with Robin Lopez. That move is paying dividends right now :banghead:

I think the chances that Curry busts are pretty high to be honest. Id compare him to Reddick who hasnt done much. At the best I could see him have a career like his dad as a top 6th man.

That's a way better career than JJ Redick is going to have.

Nope, Suns did it last season with Robin Lopez. That move is paying dividends right now :banghead:

Oh right.

They're not moving to Brooklyn. Seriously. Don't believe that hype, no matter what Bruce RATner says. We've been saying on the board for years and they're still in the swamp.

He will sell the team in the next 18 months and that'll be coupled with a move to Newark.

That said, the whole LeBron run makes sense. I hadn't remembered it.

They committed to play there in 2011 and they will be starting to build the arena in a few months. They've also been fighting it heavily in court (and winning). I just think if they can get Lebron, it makes a ton of sense for everyone.

Thats a great late 2nd round pick by the Jazz imo. Suton will fit in well if he can hack it.

but he may just turn out to be another crappy center forward that goes to play in europe in 2 years.

I'd swear ESPN is stealing clip music from HGTV.

Hell yeah!! Glad to see Suton get picked.

New Orleans picks up Marcus Thorton. At least he won't have to drive as far from his campus apartment.