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Operation Sports Full Minors 2012 Roster - Spring Training Edition Available Now

06:57 PM - April 3, 2012 by Knight165

Okay guys...

Here is the Spring Training version of the Operation Sports Full Minors for 2012, for MLB 12 The Show.

This initial set looks really tight... and there is some FANTASTIC work done on these. Dare I say... the best set yet.

There are too many to thank for this... and I will come back and fill out this post with all those involved, as I know you guys want to get your hands on these and start your franchises.

Here is the link for the OSFM ST v.1

They will be up in the Vault momentarily...

File name: O.S.F.M. SPRING

Thanks for all your patience... and most of all enjoy!!!

I just want to thank some people... and I have to say... this community is truly exceptional. Operation Sports is simply the best run website I visit. Bar none... and the members that frequent here are one of the main reasons. Good people attract other good people.

In no particular order... I really need to thank all of the people involved in the making of this set... as this is a true community effort and without all of these guys, it would make the process much harder and much, much longer.

Thanks to:

EDITORS and FACES:
JoeRyan33
TNKNGM
sink4ever
davis420
theaub
MLBBob
CWSPalehose19
bedwardsroy19
Karle
theSlab
PsychoBulk
Ivanhoe
mhag4
moose16
TheRunandShoot
Apostle
yankeedaniel99
adamj2281
Ratfink
jmeyers1975
Novanik
authentic
mlbonfox
thekid24
bdolski
tree3five
piratesboy
ilstu24
Rag3vsWorld
cmorris25
juicer420
drustrk3
Jetfire
JGainsey
ElectricWizard
LastRegret

FACES
Majoniak
Willard76
GreatNorthern47
bodhiball
MauerMorneu
GoBucs09
Throwback
NatsFan_1997
Hawnprime
seanjeezy
and
Aroid1313

I'd like to thank ksig24 for his insight and input into the potential base for the set...

... and last but CERTAINLY not least...
RidinDwnKingsley...

Without his TREMENDOUS work and the immense amount of time that he puts into these rosters... they would have taken 3 times as long to do.

I CANNOT say enough about this, as his dedication and sheer bulldog mentality to get it done, means so much to these.

Also to Steve... the owner of O.S. and the mods on here who make it easy to keep the threads in order and viable to use in conjunction with the set.

...and of course thanks to the entire O.S. community for all the input that you guys have been putting into these for YEARS!

THANK YOU!

Guys.....a lot of people have requested to give back in response to these rosters. They offer thanks and several have offered money.
I suggest charities if you really want to do something as a thanks to these.

My suggested charities....The N.Y.C. FireFighters Burn Center....Wounded Warriors....or .....http://www.extra-life.org/

Thank you!

M.K.
Knight165

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# 201 redsfan4life @ 04/03/12 10:38 PM

Also why does Steffan Wilson have A potential? smh. He's been in the minors 5 years and has a .265/.333/.423 line. He was awful last year. I don't get it. Is there any way we can fix this?

# 202 Mick311 @ 04/03/12 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by bmke92


	Well the Brewers have 4 of their top 5 prospects as pitchers. So 4 A's isnt all that bad but they are all starting pitchers. Peralta is an obvious A, Jungmann and Bradley were both First Rounders last year, so you can see why they have the A's, so the real fringe A is Thornburg, and he is easily a high B if not a low A. You're right about Rogers, he's a little suspect but he was a First round pick. Rivas and Heckathorn may need to be looked at. Just my opinion. Loving these rosters so much. Harper, Darvish, and Gary Brown look Phenomenal. I need to look at every team just to admire their faces...that's not creepy right?

I get that they were first rounders, but they werent top 10 picks....they should be Bs. Just because 4 of their top 5 prospecrs are SP does not mean they should all bs As. If your farm is crap, it shouldnt matter. A's should be for top 100 guys only. That is how most of the other rosters appear anyway.

# 203 RPM @ 04/03/12 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by redsfan4life


	Also why does Steffan Wilson have A potential? smh. He's been in the minors 5 years and has a .265/.333/.423 line. He was awful last year. I don't get it. Is there any way we can fix this?

Wilson is a "C" for me... ?

# 204 redsfan4life @ 04/03/12 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by RPM


	Wilson is a "C" for me... ?

Thats being nice. He's not a 3B either. His defense is AWFUL at third.

# 205 elbaumel @ 04/03/12 10:41 PM

Knight,

I worked on rosters for MVP '05 for myself for 4 years, MLB '09 for the PSP for 2 years, and MLB 11 (psp) over the winter. I thought it was very hard work... and it was without any minor league faces, edits or stances.

Thank yous to you, and everyone who helped on the rosters. Incredibly hard work, harder work than I could ever imagine myself doing on a roster, to make the game a 1000% better experience, and more fun for all of us. I waited until tonight to start a franchise mode & RTTS, and it's been well worth it.

Once again, thanks so so much to everyone who worked on the rosters... this is more exciting than picking up the game in early March!

# 206 N51_rob @ 04/03/12 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by JoeRyan33


	Big thanks to Knight for pulling all this together. Mammoth task by the great one. Just a heads up for the non-O's fans or those that haven't been over to the Baltimore Orioles roster thread, I've uploaded to the vault my own versions of the following players which were omitted from this roster: Dylan Bundy, Manny Machado, Jonathan Schoop and Zelous Wheeler. PSN is Playmus. Now to play some games.

His Bundy and Machado are spot on IMO. Schoop looks good and I have never seen Wheeler...

# 207 Mick311 @ 04/03/12 10:42 PM

[quote=bmke92;2043532286]Well the Brewers have 4 of their top 5 prospects as pitchers. So 4 A's isnt all that bad but they are all starting pitchers. Peralta is an obvious A, Jungmann and Bradley were both First Rounders last year, so you can see why they have the A's, so the real fringe A is Thornburg, and he is easily a high B if not a low A. You're right about Rogers, he's a little suspect but he was a First round pick. Rivas and Heckathorn may need to be looked at.

Just my opinion. Loving these rosters so much. Harper, Darvish, and Gary Brown look Phenomenal. I need to look at every team just to admire their faces...that's not creepy right?

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St.louis has 5 first round picks next year...so by this logic they should automatically have like 10 A prospects next year...lol cmon it has to be top prospects league-wide, not by team.

# 208 Jason_19 @ 04/03/12 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by redsfan4life


	Thornburg is a meh B as a SP. He's a much better RP prospect. Which again, is not nearly as valuable. Thornburg's problem is he only has two good pitches, fastball...changeup. He has zero command on his breaking balls. It's not just the pitchers there are a few position players that should not have B potential it's just not consistent with the other teams ratings. My team, the Reds (has a much better system than the Brewers), for example has three B potential SP's, one of whom was a first rounder last year just like the Brewers SP's. I would have zero problem if I could edit the potentials of guys, but well we can't do that.

I'm a huge Bradley fan and Jungmann has about as much potential as any pitching prospect in the minors, but Thornburg has very rare ability. I'm not sure about the command on his breaking pitches, but the command on his fastball and changeup are as good as any pitcher in the majors.

With that said, looking at how SCEA rated potentials, I would have all three of them as high Bs.

# 209 therockstar2005 @ 04/03/12 10:43 PM

Simply awesome. Thank you to everyone involved! Just in time for Cardinals/Marlins tomorrow, too! Now to start my Redbirds franchise...

# 210 pezone @ 04/03/12 10:44 PM

Hey guys,

Sorry i'm deviating from this whole Brewers topic.

But I have a question, I'm starting a Franchise with the Braves. How do i get Chipper Jones back on the lineup??
For some reason he's nowhere to be found on the bench or lineup...

ANy help to add again injured players would be appreciated.

# 211 Wooster2433 @ 04/03/12 10:44 PM

Guys I just wanted to thank all involved. Your time and effort means a great deal to all baseball loving men and I assume women everywhere. Tonight is a big night as tomorrow morning my wife and I are having our second child and as those of you who have had children know sleepless nights are common. I am more nervous than ever and know I won't sleep a second in anticipation for the baby and these rosters will help calm my nerves and keep me company this sleepless night. Thanks again. Go Cards!!

# 212 redsfan4life @ 04/03/12 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Jason_19


	I'm a huge Bradley fan and Jungmann has about as much potential as any pitching prospect in the minors, but Thornburg has very rare ability. I'm not sure about the command on his breaking pitches, but the command on his fastball and changeup are as good as any pitcher in the majors. With that said, looking at how SCEA rated potentials, I would have all three of them as high Bs.

I agree with you, Thornburg has a nice arm. But his durability is a huge issue and he doesn't have a breaking ball. Fastball/change up guys almost always wind up in the pen. He wants to make him an A reliever, I'd have no problem with that.

# 213 Jason_19 @ 04/03/12 10:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pezone


	Hey guys, Sorry i'm deviating from this whole Brewers topic. But I have a question, I'm starting a Franchise with the Braves. How do i get Chipper Jones back on the lineup?? For some reason he's nowhere to be found on the bench or lineup... ANy help to add again injured players would be appreciated.

He's probably on the A roster since he's injured.

# 214 OldHossRadbourn @ 04/03/12 10:47 PM

The Cubs should have at (2) A guys. Jackson and Baez. I don't like McNutt at all. So a B is fine for him IMO.

Szczur should be a B. Vitters could go a B or C. I'd still give him a B seeing as he is so young but I won't fret too much over it.

DeVoss should be on the roster. IMO he's their best 2B prospect. I liek him more than most and would give him a B. But he should at least be ont he roster and at least be a C.

# 215 TennesseeVols16 @ 04/03/12 10:48 PM

I should feel ashamed for not thanking all of you guys for doing such great work over the past few years, but after recent personal experience of not being appreciated for my hard work in a personal project, I would like to thank each and every one you that put your time into something you didn't have to do. I hope you continue to do great work in the coming years.

# 216 TheRunAndShoot @ 04/03/12 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Knight165


	To be honest...I told the guys they could be a bit more liberal with the potentials this year...especially if they offset it with ratings....so a lot of those "A"s are really mid-high B's... We will make some adjustments. Also...C's are fine as career minor league players as well as D's. Thanks. M.K. Knight165

Really? I thought we were listening to ksig for the top guys. Which is why I had Paxton and Nick Franklin are B's for the M's. To avoid bias I defaulted to ksig and BA. (65+ grade=A, 55-60=B, etc.)

How many sim's did you guys run and for how many years? I haven't ran one yet with these rosters but just with my experiance in tuning the ratings for the M's it seems like there's alot of 2010/11 draft picks that are still a few years away from the majors that would be peaking 3 years into a franchise.

I'll run a sim and post results but thats just from glancing over the rosters. Since it seems like there's alot of high potential guys could I recreate a couple guys for the M's? (depending on how this sim works)

Overall, great work by everyone. It's kinda funny seeing how people do faces. Some guys round the facial features, others emphasis any little thing.

# 217 MNSportsEditor @ 04/03/12 10:50 PM

A HUGE thanks to all the folks who worked on the rosters. ... I think JoeRyan33's Dylan Bundy is spot on, too, and I've added him and JoeRyan33's Machado to the O's.

Maybe some day JoeRyan33 will be able to do a CAP for this Bundy >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpa5s98ST5Y

# 218 redsfan4life @ 04/03/12 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by TheRunAndShoot


	Really? I thought we were listening to ksig for the top guys. Which is why I had Paxton and Nick Franklin are B's for the M's. To avoid bias I defaulted to ksig and BA. (65+ grade=A, 55-60=B, etc.) How many sim's did you guys run and for how many years? I haven't ran one yet with these rosters but just with my experiance in tuning the ratings for the M's it seems like there's alot of 2010/11 draft picks that are still a few years away from the majors that would be peaking 3 years into a franchise. I'll run a sim and post results but thats just from glancing over the rosters. Since it seems like there's alot of high potential guys could I recreate a couple guys for the M's? (depending on how this sim works) Overall, great work by everyone. It's kinda funny seeing how people do faces. Some guys round the facial features, others emphasis any little thing.

Yeah the work people did on the appearances are really amazing. Hats off.

# 219 bedwardsroy19 @ 04/03/12 10:52 PM

I'm not really sure why there is a debate on potential now, it probably should have been done before the prospects were created. I mean, that's why we all set up threads for the teams we worked on.

That said, I always gave a lower potential if I wasn't sure. But it feels like this discussion might be better off in the corrections thread, since that's why it was made.

Glad to have been a part of the project and thanks to everyone else who contributed in any way as well!

# 220 bmke92 @ 04/03/12 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by redsfan4life


	Thornburg is a meh B as a SP. He's a much better RP prospect. Which again, is not nearly as valuable. Thornburg's problem is he only has two good pitches, fastball...changeup. He has zero command on his breaking balls. It's not just the pitchers there are a few position players that should not have B potential it's just not consistent with the other teams ratings. My team, the Reds (has a much better system than the Brewers), for example has three B potential SP's, one of whom was a first rounder last year just like the Brewers SP's. I would have zero problem if I could edit the potentials of guys, but well we can't do that.

I agree that he only has 2 good pitches. But his Changeup is his best pitch and he still has a ton of time to develop a decent curve. He is much more suited for a B, but one could see why he has the A. Rogers, Rivas, and Heckathorn are questionable. And i also just saw Jorge Lopez and Jimmy Nelson are B's, also unlikely. The Brewers are going to be very good for a very long time with this pitching. Any one of these starters on the Brewers would all be better than any Giants starting prospect.

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