NCAA Football 12 News Post

First NCAA Football 12 Screenshot, Dreads Are Back - What Else Can You Spot?

12:22 PM - March 14, 2011 by illwill10

Jon Robinson, over at ESPN The Gamer, has just posted the first NCAA Football 12 screenshot, along with some additional information on what's to come tomorrow.

Besides the obvious dreads, what else can you spot?

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# 221 AuburnAlumni @ 03/15/11 12:42 PM

It just wouldn't be NCAA time without some "6 post wonder" popping up to bitch and moan about the game over one photograph. Been like this for a decade.

# 222 khaliib @ 03/15/11 12:50 PM

Folks should stop saying it's too early.

Whether slip of tongue, Dev's on EA Forum years ago said that by May, what's in is what's in. There is little to no tinkering at that point.

That leaves us with about 6 weeks, while nothing about the gameplay side has been talked about in the past 3 years.

After all the luster of the visuals has burned off after release, it's the gameplay issues that never get addressed that litter the forums.

Also there's history with EA that they never address the issues that plagued their last release and when questions about those things are brought up, we get the "It's Too Early" reply, only to see many of those issues pop-up again.

I can't believe folks have become so satisfied with OK.
That's what NCAA has been since being on Next-Gen, OK.
Compared to itself, you can see some enhancements and efforts, but compared to other Next-Gen games, NCAA is so behind in many of the core areas.

History also shows that, what we see in pre-release screen shots, are not exactly what ends up in the game bought. Especially with the Post-Release Patch method being used on a greater scale.

I'm just waiting for something "Innovative" to happen to this Game.
There is nothing like Collegiate Sports.
Right now, EA's Pro and College version of Football are too much the alike.
The games have different skins on them, but seem/play the same.

As a College student, I just don't see it at this point and I'm not basing this off of (1) screenshot, but off of (4) releases of NCAA.

# 223 blkrptnt819 @ 03/15/11 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by da ThRONe


	You ever heard of Back Breaker? That sounds more like your game. No license ,bad graphic ,but outstanding engine.

Backbreaker graphics r not bad. The lack of license and camera angles hurt them. If EA Sports swallowed it's pride it could A) Buy a license from Natural Motion for Euphoria or even Morpheme or B) Buy the company and get rid of the ppl in charge of it's gaming engine. It's about gameplay as much as it is about everything else. There needs to be a good mix.

# 224 da ThRONe @ 03/15/11 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Bama83


	I can answer this from my perspective - It's historically what EA does. They pepper in a great looking screen shot at a visual depth that is not representative of the in-game product to get people in a lather. People go ga-ga and say "this is the year they really get it going" because it looks amazing. But, the truth is - it's a zoomed in shot of the replay screen which shows depth that is actually not in the actual gameplay. So, they show off visual details that are misleading when you actually compare to gameplay visuals. Further, EAs typical brand strategy is: 1) Upgrade graphics with small tweaks 2) Add/Enhance a poorly implemented gimmick feature 3) Upgrade some offensive aspects (including plays) 4) Make some minor tweak to the engine and call it revolutionary 5) Rince and repeat for EA yyyy+1 So, I get upset when I see the same pattern emerge and the ongoing issues with the core mechanics are overlooked. I've said it before and I'll say it again - football is a sport based around size, speed and strength. Yet, only one of these factors matter. The core engine needs to be built around a physics model. I don't mean layer in a few physics aspects and call it a day - I mean actually make it the fundamental aspect of the entire game. From there, the entire attribute ratings system needs an overhaul. There should be far more actual attributes and modifiers that there currently are. As it currently stands, players are clones of one another for the most part. There is nothing that makes one player unique compared to another. There's no reason to sub players into certain plays or formations because they are an OVR downgrade. There was no real difference when I played with Tim Tebow or Sam Bradford or Colt McCoy ... but in real life each of these players play the game completely differently and have different skillsets. From a actual gameplay standpoint, football begins at the offensive/defensive line and spreads outward. Get the basic mechanics and assignments correct here. Bring in OL/DL gurus and determine actual blocking schemes and what a lineman would do in certain situations. Give these positions a priority. Build outward from this. Assign as much time to "boring defense" as you do to "exciting offense". Give people the ability to truly bring in complex defenses that mask or confuse the offense. Until they begin to admit it's flawed and outline a strategy to address them - they are not making a better product. I would liken it to building a computer with a crappy graphics card and rather than updating the graphics card to make the system better, you buy a new monitor and hard drive. Sure, it adds value to the system but the same core issue remains.

You realise EA has a team they pay A LOT of money to to market this game right? I'm sure the numbers say the best way to market this game is to give them(us the fans) more and more as the release date approaches.

Just because they're using the same marketing tactics doesn't mean the game isn't improved. For all the fuss NCAA 11 was a pretty good game. Still a lot to be desired ,but I finally fell like the game is on the right path. If somewhere during this cycle I feel like this dev. team hasn't given us significant improvements in the important areas I will be right along side you calling them out. And probably unlike you I will not buy this game.

# 225 da ThRONe @ 03/15/11 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by blkrptnt819


	Backbreaker graphics r not bad. The lack of license and camera angles hurt them. If EA Sports swallowed it's pride it could A) Buy a license from Natural Motion for Euphoria or even Morpheme or B) Buy the company and get rid of the ppl in charge of it's gaming engine. It's about gameplay as much as it is about everything else. There needs to be a good mix.

The player models are terrible.

# 226 da ThRONe @ 03/15/11 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Bama83


	Actually, it's not an outstanding engine. It's a terrible engine, but a decent implementation of physics. The physics engine should be the foundation upon which the gameplay is built, but gameplay encompasses more than physics. Just as presentation is more than commentary.

OK I get it you just want to complian. Well have fun making assumption and being turned off for no reason.

# 227 LionsFanNJ @ 03/15/11 01:27 PM

Overreaction Sports at is finest.

# 228 blkrptnt819 @ 03/15/11 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by da ThRONe


	The player models are terrible.

And that's all the graphics? Stadiums looks nice and the gameplay
is smooth. And I agree the play models are awful but that's not all the graphics. And they r just built weird. It looks arcadish.

# 229 AuburnAlumni @ 03/15/11 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Bama83


	Yes, and it wouldn't be NCAA time without everyone rushing to poor EAs defense for putting out the same product year after year without any significant upgrades. -- Oh, and Auburn cheated.

Not rushing to defense but laughing at folks like you who already condemn it months before release.

Oh...and Bammer sucks.

# 230 sparkdawg777 @ 03/15/11 01:48 PM

It's funny how the argument to focus on gameplay and not graphics gets brought up every year. Honestly I want both, who wants to look at the same game as last year and it just play different? Or vice versa. I want both so EA keep spending money on both. I just wish EA would focus on the right things for gameplay.

The biggest problem right now is defense is not fun when it is the best side of the ball to play in real life. It's lacking the intensity on the defensive side of the ball without that defense will never be fun. But to be fair, this is kind of hard to put in when the feeling of playing defense in real life football is so unique, or watching it as well. I mean I'm not the brains in video games so I don't really know what they could do for defense (except I do know zone is broken) and making it more fun. It would be nice to have more control over defenses and being able to disguise more. To me right now a sack and interception or big hit is boring in video games, and its the complete opposite in real life even watching of course.

Agree?

# 231 Cusefan @ 03/15/11 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by AuburnAlumni


	Not rushing to defense but laughing at folks like you who already condemn it months before release. Oh...and Bammer sucks.

God I miss our special NCAA forum,I used to like reading posts like these but you have to wade through 4 pages of crap to actually get to a semi-coherent thought.

If you do not like NCAA, go Somewhere else. I am not talking about the people who actually critique the game, I just have a problem with the people who come on this forum for 2 months out of the year just to bash NCAA and EA. WE get it, You do not like EA or NCAA, GET OVER IT.

# 232 AuburnAlumni @ 03/15/11 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Cusefan


	God I miss our special NCAA forum,I used to like reading posts like these but you have to wade through 4 pages of crap to actually get to a semi-coherent thought. If you do not like NCAA, go Somewhere else. I am not talking about the people who actually critique the game, I just have a problem with the people who come on this forum for 2 months out of the year just to bash NCAA and EA. WE get it, You do not like EA or NCAA, GET OVER IT.

Did be da truth. Amen

# 233 cvplaya2g @ 03/15/11 02:18 PM

- #52 is actually still attempting to make a play on the ball after being juked..Great addition.
- Uniform getting dirty
- Depth of field improvement
- Facial animation improvement
- 3d grass
- Improved head tracking
- improved foot-planting
- Reduced clipping
- Improved cut animations
- Shed block improvement #99
- Suction block improvement (normally #55 would warp to #22 to block)
- Deceleration improvement (locomotion) #55
- BC cradles the ball higher to avoid the strip? Looks that way.
-BC looks like he pushing the defenders arm down to avoid being grabbed on to. NICE (if thats the case)

# 234 BenGerman @ 03/15/11 02:26 PM

I can't help but be excited. It will be different when we see it in motion, but for now I am excited. That image looks like a tremendous upgrade IMO.

# 235 The GIGGAS @ 03/15/11 02:38 PM

Let's not say that Backbreaker didn't look good. It didn't look real, but it was no graphical slouch.

# 236 Hova57 @ 03/15/11 02:39 PM

Well about thirty minutes till all the guessing is over and in about forty minutes later you see 4-5 guys banned.lol

I'm still interested to see what comes. I'm still under the impression that this is the year for the football games to get physics every other sports game for EA has along with the EA non sport titles.

# 237 da ThRONe @ 03/15/11 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by The GIGGAS


	Let's not say that Backbreaker didn't look good. It didn't look real, but it was no graphical slouch.

Well I will apologize for making a generalization. I was talking about player models which IMO is the most important aspect of graphics.

# 238 sparkdawg777 @ 03/15/11 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Hova57


	Well about thirty minutes till all the guessing is over and in about forty minutes later you see 4-5 guys banned.lol I'm still interested to see what comes. I'm still under the impression that this is the year for the football games to get physics every other sports game for EA has along with the EA non sport titles.

Yeh and I think it has worked well in the other games, I think the wait has just been because they need to get it right, football is the most physical sport. (Hockey is too) but I mean almost everyone is engaged in another player every play so that means if there are bugs players would be falling down all over the place lol. But I'm hoping this is the year!

# 239 theharbinater @ 03/15/11 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by AuburnAlumni


	Not rushing to defense but laughing at folks like you who already condemn it months before release. Oh...and Bammer sucks.

you shut your mouth...

about the last part, not the first part. i agree with that.

that last part, them's fightin' words

# 240 rolltide282 @ 03/15/11 02:48 PM

WOW EA... way to give us dreads the year my favorite player, Julio Jones, leaves.

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