Three things SDS should copy from EA they havent...

[acts238shaun]

Let's admit, MVP 2005 was ahead if it's time, especially looking back at games two console generations later. Three things EA did would make MLB the Show play much better and give more realistic stats for hitters.

1. Create an energy rating separate from durability.

This is pretty self explanatory. Some guys are in great shape and injury prone. Some are out of shape but not necessarily injury prone. In 93 and 94, Mark McGwire was probably in great shape, but had brittle feet.

2. Separate swing aggression from plate discipline.

I came up watching 80s baseball, an era where they didnt seing at bad pitches as much as they swung at the first strike they saw. They were both very aggressive and very judicious. Others, like Jason Heyward, have a good eye but arent very aggressive. Then you have Javy Baez...

3. Ratings against certain pitches.

Dansby Swanson is among the better fastball hitters, but can't hit a slider to save his life at times. Some players so better against at breaking pitches than fastballs, especially when they get older. I'd love to be able to reflect that in the ratings.

What do you guys think?

[Fishbone Walker]

Re: Three things SDS should copy from EA they havent...

Let's admit, MVP 2005 was ahead if it's time, especially looking back at games two console generations later. Three things EA did would make MLB the Show play much better and give more realistic stats for hitters.

1. Create an energy rating separate from durability.

This is pretty self explanatory. Some guys are in great shape and injury prone. Some are out of shape but not necessarily injury prone. In 93 and 94, Mark McGwire was probably in great shape, but had brittle feet.

2. Separate swing aggression from plate discipline.

I came up watching 80s baseball, an era where they didnt seing at bad pitches as much as they swung at the first strike they saw. They were both very aggressive and very judicious. Others, like Jason Heyward, have a good eye but arent very aggressive. Then you have Javy Baez...

3. Ratings against certain pitches.

Dansby Swanson is among the better fastball hitters, but can't hit a slider to save his life at times. Some players so better against at breaking pitches than fastballs, especially when they get older. I'd love to be able to reflect that in the ratings.

What do you guys think?

100% on ratings against different pitches.

[CBoller1331]

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Ratings vs certain pitches would be pretty neat, even if it were just broken up into fastball/breaking/off-speed.

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[ninertravel]

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Durability has to be 2 separate attributes.. 1 for injury and 1 for endurance. an injury prone player shouldn't also be 'tired' all the time.

so have one for Injury and have one for Stamina. just because someone like Stanton doesn't stay healthy for a week doesn't mean he get's tired after 2 days.

I would also like to be able to see the BP stamina before a game starts not just during a game. so then you can decide who the closer is for that game. and the CPU would use that logic as well and not always use a closer in the 9th innings no matter how tired he is. the A1 should use a priority in what pitchers to use in the BP by the stamina.

[Herschie]

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I thought it was cool in FIFA how you could adjust the color of the grass and the wear and tear.

[Caulfield]

Re: Three things SDS should copy from EA they havent...

3 things to take from EA:
* half of EA's customers
* rebrand as Maddon MLB 21
* 2 words - ''rocket punts''

nah, scratch that last one:
* market a version to personal computers

[lemarflacco]

Re: Three things SDS should copy from EA they havent...

Let's admit, MVP 2005 was ahead if it's time, especially looking back at games two console generations later. Three things EA did would make MLB the Show play much better and give more realistic stats for hitters.

1. Create an energy rating separate from durability.

This is pretty self explanatory. Some guys are in great shape and injury prone. Some are out of shape but not necessarily injury prone. In 93 and 94, Mark McGwire was probably in great shape, but had brittle feet.

2. Separate swing aggression from plate discipline.

I came up watching 80s baseball, an era where they didnt seing at bad pitches as much as they swung at the first strike they saw. They were both very aggressive and very judicious. Others, like Jason Heyward, have a good eye but arent very aggressive. Then you have Javy Baez...

3. Ratings against certain pitches.

Dansby Swanson is among the better fastball hitters, but can't hit a slider to save his life at times. Some players so better against at breaking pitches than fastballs, especially when they get older. I'd love to be able to reflect that in the ratings.

What do you guys think?

Love this list and most importantly, lets get a current and potential rating for every individual rating.

[thescoop]

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Great ideas. I would also love to see them add a few other items that were featured in MVP 05 that are long over due.

1. Playable Single A teams. MVP had them in the game. Would be nice to see them finally added into the show, especially now that the the minors have been reduced anyway.

2. Rain outs - MVP had delays and rain outs in their Dynasty/owner mode. With expanded memory in games now you could even add roster additions for double header days. Plus, with the new 7 inning double header rule coming back for this season double headers should be a part of the game with rescheduled games.

3. Also with weather, if we're playing a game at a stadium with a retractable roof and it starts raining, have the roof shut. MVP 05 had this in the game way back then.

4. Minor league stat tracking. MVP 05 did this. They didn't start tracking the minor leaguers until the 05 season (the year the game came out.) They could do the same for any minor leaguer they don't have in the game. Helps us with year to year evaluation.

For a fun trip down memory lane I found this old interview done right here at OS for MVP 05 before it was released.

https://forums.operationsports.com/f...005-interview/

[DanH35]

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3. Ratings against certain pitches.

Dansby Swanson is among the better fastball hitters, but can't hit a slider to save his life at times. Some players so better against at breaking pitches than fastballs, especially when they get older. I'd love to be able to reflect that in the ratings.

They kinda have this with the quirk system. I’m not saying that it can’t be improved though. For one, they could have the quirks have some more impact. Right now, if you have the fastball perk, dead red I think it is, it just makes the pci a little bigger, but they could also have it adjust the timing window too. They could also add negative quirks too for players that struggle with certain things.

[LastActionHero]

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Ben Brinkman was the man, wonder what he is up to these days.

[thescoop]

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Ben Brinkman was the man, wonder what he is up to these days.

He had a passion for baseball games. I enjoyed reading an interview from the days before pay to play card games became the main focus of sports titles.

[tessl]

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mlbts 20 was a far better game than anything EA has produced. I suspect the game will be diluted now with multiple platforms draining developer resources as evidenced by no carry over saves.

mlbts 20 could well be the best game ever made.

[Boedefeld]

Re: Three things SDS should copy from EA they havent...

1. Better gameplay

2. Better commentary

3. Better graphics

[Red_Ted_is_back]

Re: Three things SDS should copy from EA they havent...

Let's admit, MVP 2005 was ahead if it's time, especially looking back at games two console generations later. Three things EA did would make MLB the Show play much better and give more realistic stats for hitters.



1. Create an energy rating separate from durability.



This is pretty self explanatory. Some guys are in great shape and injury prone. Some are out of shape but not necessarily injury prone. In 93 and 94, Mark McGwire was probably in great shape, but had brittle feet.



2. Separate swing aggression from plate discipline.



I came up watching 80s baseball, an era where they didnt seing at bad pitches as much as they swung at the first strike they saw. They were both very aggressive and very judicious. Others, like Jason Heyward, have a good eye but arent very aggressive. Then you have Javy Baez...



3. Ratings against certain pitches.



Dansby Swanson is among the better fastball hitters, but can't hit a slider to save his life at times. Some players so better against at breaking pitches than fastballs, especially when they get older. I'd love to be able to reflect that in the ratings.



What do you guys think?

Having a separate rating for injury: what would it be used for? If it’s just to determine chance of injury on each play or between games etc then I can understand not having its own rating as it keeps things simple for us and (more importantly) the devs. If they started down this track the. There would be pages and pages of different ratings that are used for only single calculations. Plus more variables taking up more memory.

Combining durability and injury is a natural compromise as they are for the most part related to each other. Yes there may be players for whom there *could* be a case against, but generally the better shape in which people are, the less chance of game-related injury they have.


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