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  • HBKSean216
    Banned
    • Apr 2019
    • 530

    #1

    Until they fix slashing this game will remain an arcade game

    I'm one who hates all the "this game is broken" whiners but this game is literally broken.

    Slashing is a joke. An absolute joke. Specifically in Rec and proam slashing builds are blowing past eveyrone and finishing contact dunks EVERY SINGLE POSSESSION. The alley oops are pure comedy. People are throwing Oops all over the court. You see 5+ alley oops from 35 feet away off the backboard and someone grabs it within looking and dunks it.

    Until this is fixed this game can be considered broken.
  • The 24th Letter
    ERA
    • Oct 2007
    • 39373

    #2
    Re: Until they fix slashing this game will remain an arcade game

    Charges. This isn't a 'git gud' response, but my rec squad has a ton of them.

    They absolutely work on NG. Good time to bring back that badge

    That said I think the contact dunk animation could be scaled to not activate as far back.

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    • Thetruth9012
      MVP
      • Oct 2013
      • 1287

      #3
      Re: Until they fix slashing this game will remain an arcade game

      Dunking and alleyops are a joke i agree... It was on current gen aswell evn playsharp were dunking a lot....

      Wysłane z mojego CPH2015 przy użyciu Tapatalka
      2k18 fixes

      Bigs can cover to much ground on defense(they are too fast)

      Late contest on laups matter too much.

      Random blocks doing pumpfakes.

      Leaning shots for guys who have catch and shoot badge should be removed.

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      • allBthere
        All Star
        • Jan 2008
        • 5847

        #4
        Re: Until they fix slashing this game will remain an arcade game

        Originally posted by HBKSean216
        I'm one who hates all the "this game is broken" whiners but this game is literally broken.

        Slashing is a joke. An absolute joke. Specifically in Rec and proam slashing builds are blowing past eveyrone and finishing contact dunks EVERY SINGLE POSSESSION. The alley oops are pure comedy. People are throwing Oops all over the court. You see 5+ alley oops from 35 feet away off the backboard and someone grabs it within looking and dunks it.

        Until this is fixed this game can be considered broken.
        the modes you are playing ARE arcade. Even the animations for those modes are way over the top - it's action oritentated. It's call of Duty vs ARMA... I play offline NBA 90% of the time and there is nothing like that there. So of course the modes with the fun-house mirror impossible animations is more arcade and all dunks alley oops, crazy dribbles and 3's...

        If you want sim you're def playing the wrong modes.
        Liquor in the front, poker in the rear.

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        • tb0622
          Rookie
          • May 2016
          • 166

          #5
          Re: Until they fix slashing this game will remain an arcade game

          Originally posted by allBthere
          the modes you are playing ARE arcade. Even the animations for those modes are way over the top - it's action oritentated. It's call of Duty vs ARMA... I play offline NBA 90% of the time and there is nothing like that there. So of course the modes with the fun-house mirror impossible animations is more arcade and all dunks alley oops, crazy dribbles and 3's...

          If you want sim you're def playing the wrong modes.
          This right here. Myplayer and Myteam are inherently arcade modes. And that's why I don't play them as much.

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          • Thetruth9012
            MVP
            • Oct 2013
            • 1287

            #6
            Re: Until they fix slashing this game will remain an arcade game

            Originally posted by tb0622
            This right here. Myplayer and Myteam are inherently arcade modes. And that's why I don't play them as much.
            It was never that bad tho...

            Wysłane z mojego CPH2015 przy użyciu Tapatalka
            2k18 fixes

            Bigs can cover to much ground on defense(they are too fast)

            Late contest on laups matter too much.

            Random blocks doing pumpfakes.

            Leaning shots for guys who have catch and shoot badge should be removed.

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            • tru11
              MVP
              • Aug 2010
              • 1816

              #7
              Re: Until they fix slashing this game will remain an arcade game

              Originally posted by tb0622
              This right here. Myplayer and Myteam are inherently arcade modes. And that's why I don't play them as much.


              Cages and park are arcade.

              Jrc and pro am arent supposed to be.


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              • The 24th Letter
                ERA
                • Oct 2007
                • 39373

                #8
                Re: Until they fix slashing this game will remain an arcade game

                Rec is as sim as the players.

                5 people playing in sync can use basketball strategy to beat the other.

                **** you can see that in Park sometimes.

                Last gen, those situations felt more like basketball than the NBA side sometimes.
                Especially PNO

                The biggest issue is the inflated shooting IMO. Everything else has a legit counter.

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                • alabamarob
                  MVP
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 3314

                  #9
                  Re: Until they fix slashing this game will remain an arcade game

                  Originally posted by The 24th Letter
                  Charges. This isn't a 'git gud' response, but my rec squad has a ton of them.

                  They absolutely work on NG. Good time to bring back that badge

                  That said I think the contact dunk animation could be scaled to not activate as far back.
                  I love the charges, but i get them by accident. I tried to take about 3 a game, and they love calling blocks or no calls on me. Haha.

                  I do see about 2 or 3 a game though. Which is a good number.
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                  • The 24th Letter
                    ERA
                    • Oct 2007
                    • 39373

                    #10
                    Re: Until they fix slashing this game will remain an arcade game

                    Originally posted by alabamarob
                    I love the charges, but i get them by accident. I tried to take about 3 a game, and they love calling blocks or no calls on me. Haha.

                    I do see about 2 or 3 a game though. Which is a good number.
                    Yep, good positioning can get you a charge, which is also a plus.
                    Last edited by The 24th Letter; 11-15-2020, 07:44 PM.

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                    • TheFgGoatLikesHawks
                      Banned
                      • Jul 2019
                      • 359

                      #11
                      Re: Until they fix slashing this game will remain an arcade game

                      Originally posted by allBthere
                      the modes you are playing ARE arcade. Even the animations for those modes are way over the top - it's action oritentated. It's call of Duty vs ARMA... I play offline NBA 90% of the time and there is nothing like that there. So of course the modes with the fun-house mirror impossible animations is more arcade and all dunks alley oops, crazy dribbles and 3's...

                      If you want sim you're def playing the wrong modes.
                      How does that help? You're saying "don't play this mode" instead of changing the mode through feedback. If enough "sim" players made their way to MyPLAYER, maybe the mode would be more balanced via feedback. One thing we know about 2K - they listen to feedback. And right now the casuals are winning by a 1000 miles. If anything, you should be encouraging more people to MyPLAYER modes so that more sim elements can be brought to these modes.

                      MyPLAYER modes have the MOST realistic/sim framework (first person perspective, which is what it is like IRL) with the worst EXECUTION of realism relative to the other modes. And it's because for some reason there is this inherent expectation from some people that "these modes" should be arcade trash for 10 yr olds.
                      Last edited by TheFgGoatLikesHawks; 11-15-2020, 08:17 PM.

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                      • TheFgGoatLikesHawks
                        Banned
                        • Jul 2019
                        • 359

                        #12
                        Re: Until they fix slashing this game will remain an arcade game

                        Originally posted by HBKSean216
                        I'm one who hates all the "this game is broken" whiners but this game is literally broken.

                        Slashing is a joke. An absolute joke. Specifically in Rec and proam slashing builds are blowing past eveyrone and finishing contact dunks EVERY SINGLE POSSESSION. The alley oops are pure comedy. People are throwing Oops all over the court. You see 5+ alley oops from 35 feet away off the backboard and someone grabs it within looking and dunks it.

                        Until this is fixed this game can be considered broken.
                        I'm thinking of making a Mutombo build just for this reason

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                        • Rockie_Fresh88
                          Lockdown Defender
                          • Oct 2011
                          • 9621

                          #13
                          Re: Until they fix slashing this game will remain an arcade game

                          Originally posted by The 24th Letter
                          Rec is as sim as the players.

                          5 people playing in sync can use basketball strategy to beat the other.

                          **** you can see that in Park sometimes.

                          Last gen, those situations felt more like basketball than the NBA side sometimes.
                          Especially PNO

                          The biggest issue is the inflated shooting IMO. Everything else has a legit counter.
                          JRC with in sync basketball is one of the most rewarding and fun experiences in this game . I like play now/ offline too but 5 users syncing is different and can be just as sim .
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                          • HBKSean216
                            Banned
                            • Apr 2019
                            • 530

                            #14
                            Re: Until they fix slashing this game will remain an arcade game

                            They aren't supposed to be arcade modes.... the alley oops and contact dunks have NEVER been this insane before. 2 out of every 3 possessions is a contact dunk. Contact dunks on 2+ people every time. Every time.

                            The oops off the backyard are the worst. Literally every position player is throwing line drives off the backyard and they are caught and dunked easily. ON FOUR PEOPLE.

                            This **** no joke is the Cages. NBA Street. NBA Hangtime. NBA on NBC. NBA Jam. NBA Jam:TE

                            Originally posted by allBthere
                            the modes you are playing ARE arcade. Even the animations for those modes are way over the top - it's action oritentated. It's call of Duty vs ARMA... I play offline NBA 90% of the time and there is nothing like that there. So of course the modes with the fun-house mirror impossible animations is more arcade and all dunks alley oops, crazy dribbles and 3's...

                            If you want sim you're def playing the wrong modes.
                            Originally posted by TheFgGoatLikesHawks
                            How does that help? You're saying "don't play this mode" instead of changing the mode through feedback. If enough "sim" players made their way to MyPLAYER, maybe the mode would be more balanced via feedback. One thing we know about 2K - they listen to feedback. And right now the casuals are winning by a 1000 miles. If anything, you should be encouraging more people to MyPLAYER modes so that more sim elements can be brought to these modes.

                            MyPLAYER modes have the MOST realistic/sim framework (first person perspective, which is what it is like IRL) with the worst EXECUTION of realism relative to the other modes. And it's because for some reason there is this inherent expectation from some people that "these modes" should be arcade trash for 10 yr olds.
                            Last edited by HBKSean216; 11-15-2020, 11:16 PM.

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                            • Thetruth9012
                              MVP
                              • Oct 2013
                              • 1287

                              #15
                              Re: Until they fix slashing this game will remain an arcade game

                              Originally posted by TheFgGoatLikesHawks
                              I'm thinking of making a Mutombo build just for this reason
                              Your mutombo build would still be dunk on 8/10 times there is no stopping to that it just feels like there is not enough body contact animation when the player is in the air.

                              Wysłane z mojego CPH2015 przy użyciu Tapatalka
                              2k18 fixes

                              Bigs can cover to much ground on defense(they are too fast)

                              Late contest on laups matter too much.

                              Random blocks doing pumpfakes.

                              Leaning shots for guys who have catch and shoot badge should be removed.

                              Comment

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