Keeping XOR's NFL Challenge Alive with Something Really Nice!

[stratonascar]

That's I'm Trying to Bring Back XOR's NFL Challenge with the New Complete Edition featuring Every Single Season dating back to 1966 which is the First Season of The Super Bowl Being Played as well as a Handful of Classic Teams and a Handful of College Football Stuff however It will be avaliable for download by clicking this link: https://archive.org/details/nfl-chal...mplete-edition

However If you want to have any changes regarding to any sets that we have, please post and If anyone has the following NFL Challenge Season Disks for the actual XOR Version 1986 NFL Challenge Season let me know as well as the following

- NFL Challenge Greatest Teams Disk which features the best teams dating back to 1966 (1966 Packers, 1968 Jets, 1969 Chiefs, 1969 Vikings, 1970 Colts, 1970 Lions, 1972 Dolphins, 1975 Rams, 1975 Cardinals, 1976 Raiders, 1977 Broncos, 1977 Cowboys, 1978 Steelers, 1979 Buccaneers, 1979 Oilers, 1980 Chargers, 1980 Eagles, 1980 Falcons, 1982 Redskins, 1984 49ers, 1984 Seahawks, 1985 Bears, 1985 Patriots, 1986 Giants, 1987 Browns, 1987 Saints, 1988 Bills, 1988 Bengals)
- NFL Dream Season Disk which features the Teams that aired on ESPN in 1989 (1951 Rams, 1953 Lions, 1955 Browns, 1959 Colts, 1960 Eagles, 1963 Chargers, 1964 Browns, 1966 Packers, 1968 Jets, 1969 Chiefs, 1971 Cowboys, 1972 Dolphins, 1976 Raiders, 1977 Cowboys, 1978 Steelers, 1982 Redskins, 1983 Raiders, 1984 49ers, 1985 Bears, 1986 Giants)
- NCAA Football 1990 Season
- NCAA Football 1991 Season
- NCAA Football Alumni Squads

If you have any of these Disks feel free to Upload or You Can Also Upload your own set which would consist of New College Teams and Seasons, An Updated All-Time NFL Franchise Teams Disk (with 32 Teams in this set), New NFL Season Sets from 1961 to 1965 and Pre-1960 Seasons and so on, so contribute now!

[bkrich83]

Re: Keeping XOR's NFL Challenge Alive with Something Really Nice!

That's I'm Trying to Bring Back XOR's NFL Challenge with the New Complete Edition featuring Every Single Season dating back to 1966 which is the First Season of The Super Bowl Being Played as well as a Handful of Classic Teams and a Handful of College Football Stuff however It will be avaliable for download by clicking this link: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1t24...ew?usp=sharing

However If you want to have any changes regarding to any sets that we have, please post and If anyone has the following NFL Challenge Season Disks for the actual XOR Version 1986 NFL Challenge Season let me know as well as the following

- NFL Challenge Greatest Teams Disk which features the best teams dating back to 1966 (1966 Packers, 1968 Jets, 1969 Chiefs, 1969 Vikings, 1970 Colts, 1970 Lions, 1972 Dolphins, 1975 Rams, 1975 Cardinals, 1976 Raiders, 1977 Broncos, 1977 Cowboys, 1978 Steelers, 1979 Buccaneers, 1979 Oilers, 1980 Chargers, 1980 Eagles, 1980 Falcons, 1982 Redskins, 1984 49ers, 1984 Seahawks, 1985 Bears, 1985 Patriots, 1986 Giants, 1987 Browns, 1987 Saints, 1988 Bills, 1988 Bengals)
- NFL Dream Season Disk which features the Teams that aired on ESPN in 1989 (1951 Rams, 1953 Lions, 1955 Browns, 1959 Colts, 1960 Eagles, 1963 Chargers, 1964 Browns, 1966 Packers, 1968 Jets, 1969 Chiefs, 1971 Cowboys, 1972 Dolphins, 1976 Raiders, 1977 Cowboys, 1978 Steelers, 1982 Redskins, 1983 Raiders, 1984 49ers, 1985 Bears, 1986 Giants)
- NCAA Football 1990 Season
- NCAA Football 1991 Season
- NCAA Football Alumni Squads

If you have any of these Disks feel free to Upload or You Can Also Upload your own set which would consist of New College Teams and Seasons, An Updated All-Time NFL Franchise Teams Disk (with 32 Teams in this set), New NFL Season Sets from 1961 to 1965 and Pre-1960 Seasons and so on, so contribute now!

Awesome I loved this game as a kid.

[stratonascar]

Re: Keeping XOR's NFL Challenge Alive with Something Really Nice!

This Just In: The First NFL Challenge Add-On Pack for that Complete Edition it features 6 Generic Teams (all named after Women on ABC's The Bachelor since Season 19) and get this 26 Classic College Football Teams + 1984 USFL Season so here's the download link for the record

Link: https://archive.org/details/nfl-challenge-add-on-pack-1

And if you want to Contribute by making Roster Changes and Uploading New Teams and altering current teams feel free to reply, by making a post thank you.

[zonecadet]

Re: Keeping XOR's NFL Challenge Alive with Something Really Nice!

G'day, I really appreciate the USFL Teams. that's some hard work, I know, I created the 1985 teams a while ago and simmed the whole season. Herschel got his 2000yds and the Gamblers won the Championship. My player ratings were much higher than yours, what formula(s) do you use to convert stats to Ratings? Also, are you aware that the WR3 position is only in on a couple of Offensive plays such that that receiver will often have no receptions in a game. That would mean that the Gamblers No.1 receiver, Richard Johnson, would not be a factor. It's annoying how that plays out, you almost have to put the 5th ranked WR there so that the others get their receptions.

[stratonascar]

Re: Keeping XOR's NFL Challenge Alive with Something Really Nice!

I've used Madden To XOR to generate the ratings however are you going to upload the 1985 USFL so we can use it for the next add-on pack, zonecadet?

[zonecadet]

Re: Keeping XOR's NFL Challenge Alive with Something Really Nice!

yeah, I'd love to share it our there but I'll have to 'repair' the rosters as I was removing injured players throughout the season and subbing in off the bench and then bringing guys up from the 'development' or reserve squad. I've also traded guys (trying to mimic the actual trades that season) so I have a bit to do.

[Hammerhunker]

Re: Keeping XOR's NFL Challenge Alive with Something Really Nice!

That's I'm Trying to Bring Back XOR's NFL Challenge with the New Complete Edition featuring Every Single Season dating back to 1966 which is the First Season of The Super Bowl Being Played as well as a Handful of Classic Teams and a Handful of College Football Stuff however It will be avaliable for download by clicking this link: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1t24...ew?usp=sharing

However If you want to have any changes regarding to any sets that we have, please post and If anyone has the following NFL Challenge Season Disks for the actual XOR Version 1986 NFL Challenge Season let me know as well as the following

- NFL Challenge Greatest Teams Disk which features the best teams dating back to 1966 (1966 Packers, 1968 Jets, 1969 Chiefs, 1969 Vikings, 1970 Colts, 1970 Lions, 1972 Dolphins, 1975 Rams, 1975 Cardinals, 1976 Raiders, 1977 Broncos, 1977 Cowboys, 1978 Steelers, 1979 Buccaneers, 1979 Oilers, 1980 Chargers, 1980 Eagles, 1980 Falcons, 1982 Redskins, 1984 49ers, 1984 Seahawks, 1985 Bears, 1985 Patriots, 1986 Giants, 1987 Browns, 1987 Saints, 1988 Bills, 1988 Bengals)
- NFL Dream Season Disk which features the Teams that aired on ESPN in 1989 (1951 Rams, 1953 Lions, 1955 Browns, 1959 Colts, 1960 Eagles, 1963 Chargers, 1964 Browns, 1966 Packers, 1968 Jets, 1969 Chiefs, 1971 Cowboys, 1972 Dolphins, 1976 Raiders, 1977 Cowboys, 1978 Steelers, 1982 Redskins, 1983 Raiders, 1984 49ers, 1985 Bears, 1986 Giants)
- NCAA Football 1990 Season
- NCAA Football 1991 Season
- NCAA Football Alumni Squads

If you have any of these Disks feel free to Upload or You Can Also Upload your own set which would consist of New College Teams and Seasons, An Updated All-Time NFL Franchise Teams Disk (with 32 Teams in this set), New NFL Season Sets from 1961 to 1965 and Pre-1960 Seasons and so on, so contribute now!

Can you provide me with a link to learn how you obtained this game and how you're able to create multiple teams? I honestly thought I was the only person in the world that played this game. Crushed when the premium edition never released.

[zonecadet]

Re: Keeping XOR's NFL Challenge Alive with Something Really Nice!

Tell me about it. they were gonna accommodate the Run and Shoot and I think compile defensive stats too..

[stratonascar]

Re: Keeping XOR's NFL Challenge Alive with Something Really Nice!

Hammerhunker: If you want to Download the Complete Edition of NFL Challenge, Go to the link above or go to https://www.myabandonware.com/game/nfl-challenge-68 and maybe if you want to create multiple teams from Scratch I'm planning to give a Surprise later after I complete work on the Next Add-On Pack.

zonecadet: Run 'n' Shoot wasn't used on XOR's NFL Challenge however the Closest if you want to do it you can you use the Yellow Group (Group #5) for the Manual and Playbook go to: https://videofootballleague.com/docs/nflchal.pdf

However zonecadet is uploading the 1985 USFL Season for the Upcoming Add-On Pack and maybe I'm expecting to create the 1983 USFL Season from scratch with teams from the 1983 CFL Season, so it will be up as we go along in the future.

[zonecadet]

Re: Keeping XOR's NFL Challenge Alive with Something Really Nice!

I only ever play the game AI vs AI and have been able to approximate the Run and Shoot by having no TE's on the roster and playing WRs at those spots. You also have to put a WR at FB and run the game in advanced coaching mode. As long as the HB is rated higher in RUN skill than the WR (at FB) he will get the carries while the WR (at FB) will catch passes as the FB is targeted way more than HB in NFL CHallenge.

The key to creating teams is the total S Pts a player has compared to others at the same position. S pts is the total of a player's skill points (RUN, REC, BLK, PASS and KICK) If a bench player has more S pts than a starter, the starter will not come back if injured. Look at the 84 Browns squad. Starter, 2nd year man Boyce Green (HB), has 226 S Pts but bench player Earnest Byner has 233. If Green goes out injured, his lower S pts will keep him off the field. Green started 10 games that season, Byner only 3.

[stratonascar]

Re: Keeping XOR's NFL Challenge Alive with Something Really Nice!

I only ever play the game AI vs AI and have been able to approximate the Run and Shoot by having no TE's on the roster and playing WRs at those spots. You also have to put a WR at FB and run the game in advanced coaching mode. As long as the HB is rated higher in RUN skill than the WR (at FB) he will get the carries while the WR (at FB) will catch passes as the FB is targeted way more than HB in NFL CHallenge.

The key to creating teams is the total S Pts a player has compared to others at the same position. S pts is the total of a player's skill points (RUN, REC, BLK, PASS and KICK) If a bench player has more S pts than a starter, the starter will not come back if injured. Look at the 84 Browns squad. Starter, 2nd year man Boyce Green (HB), has 226 S Pts but bench player Earnest Byner has 233. If Green goes out injured, his lower S pts will keep him off the field. Green started 10 games that season, Byner only 3.

That's a Great Idea!

[zonecadet]

Re: Keeping XOR's NFL Challenge Alive with Something Really Nice!

It's a close as we can get to Run and Shoot or even the modern Spread type Offenses. Mind you I never bother with the NFL teams. Along with a couple of long-time NFL Challenge devotees I've learnt to alter the Curves file to suit, although the effect is limited in some of the curves. For instance, the game limits any QB run, and they only run as a result of a blitz, to 20yds. I cannot get that to increase in any way. Yet , I have altered the long runs and receptions to allow a slightly higher probability of long gains occuring for RBs and WRs/TEs. I'm currently running the 1963 AFL season and for that I altered the Field Goal curve to a)limit the distance for the longest field goal attempt and b) decrease the number of field goals attempted. Back in the early 60s kickers were not specialists and a 50% success rate was an all star!! They also didn't kick 55 yarders regularly on account of, often, very poor field conditions. Still learning, still working to tweak the game as best I can. For the 1963 AFL we removed all Dime Defenses and any Offensive play that had the WR3 featured (not many) owing to the fact the Rosters are so small back then. It helps. As far as I know the USFL Rosters were limited to about 40 so my squads reflect that.

[stratonascar]

Re: Keeping XOR's NFL Challenge Alive with Something Really Nice!

@Zonecadet: Nice Idea so would you like to share any seasons that you want to add so I can send it to you for the Next Add-On Pack?

[zonecadet]

Re: Keeping XOR's NFL Challenge Alive with Something Really Nice!

Sure thing, I have no idea how but yeah. I still got a lot of work to do on my USFL 1985 teams to get them back into opening day shape AND I have to create .ros files for each team, never did them originally as I kept track of rosters and injuries and stats in a spreadsheet.

[stratonascar]

Re: Keeping XOR's NFL Challenge Alive with Something Really Nice!

Sure thing, I have no idea how but yeah. I still got a lot of work to do on my USFL 1985 teams to get them back into opening day shape AND I have to create .ros files for each team, never did them originally as I kept track of rosters and injuries and stats in a spreadsheet.

That's a Good Idea if you upload this, I'm going to work on the 1983 USFL and the CFL Season all being merged into One File.