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  • Steve_OS
    Editor-in-Chief
    • Jul 2002
    • 33294

    #1

    eFootball PES 2020 Demo Impressions



    Late last week, Konami released the demo for this year's upcoming release, eFootball PES 2020 (it's...

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  • PAPERNUT
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    • May 2003
    • 1690

    #2
    Re: eFootball PES 2020 Demo Impressions

    On point as usual. Great write up.
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    • dubcity
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      • May 2012
      • 17867

      #3
      Re: eFootball PES 2020 Demo Impressions

      Keep fighting the good fight on the "deep defensive line" and open space issues. [emoji106]

      Sadly it does feel like a lot of the gameplay choices Konami have made are based on online user vs user gameplay, and those of us who prefer offline are left to (try to) fix the game ourselves.

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      • RoyceDa59
        Chillin
        • Aug 2003
        • 3830

        #4
        Re: eFootball PES 2020 Demo Impressions

        Originally posted by dubcity
        Keep fighting the good fight on the "deep defensive line" and open space issues. [emoji106]

        Sadly it does feel like a lot of the gameplay choices Konami have made are based on online user vs user gameplay, and those of us who prefer offline are left to (try to) fix the game ourselves.
        Its hard to believe that PES is now lagging behind Fifa in Team Tactics. For the past several installments we have been stuck with only two Defensive tactics. It's time for a revamp the custom tactics as its severely dated.

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        • dubcity
          Hall Of Fame
          • May 2012
          • 17867

          #5
          Re: eFootball PES 2020 Demo Impressions

          Originally posted by RoyceDa59
          Its hard to believe that PES is now lagging behind Fifa in Team Tactics. For the past several installments we have been stuck with only two Defensive tactics. It's time for a revamp the custom tactics as its severely dated.
          Yeah. When I first started playing PES in 2011/2012 it felt like they were the strategic game and FIFA was just trying to make a game where players broke away with through balls every other possesion.

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          • KG
            Welcome Back
            • Sep 2005
            • 17583

            #6
            Re: eFootball PES 2020 Demo Impressions

            Originally posted by PAPERNUT
            On point as usual. Great write up.
            Thanks PAPERNUT! I appreciate the kind words.

            Originally posted by dubcity
            Keep fighting the good fight on the "deep defensive line" and open space issues. [emoji106]

            Sadly it does feel like a lot of the gameplay choices Konami have made are based on online user vs user gameplay, and those of us who prefer offline are left to (try to) fix the game ourselves.
            You know I will dub!

            What's weird to me is that when you play online vs a random in PES they'll actually change formations/tactics in the gameplan section where as most of the time in FIFA randoms will just go straight into the match. It seems like the PES crowd want to use tactics but unfortunately A LOT of them don't make sense and Konami does a suspect job at explaining them.

            Originally posted by RoyceDa59
            Its hard to believe that PES is now lagging behind Fifa in Team Tactics. For the past several installments we have been stuck with only two Defensive tactics. It's time for a revamp the custom tactics as its severely dated.

            Crazy right! To me, FIFA gets tactics right.

            FIFA's Team Sheets > Loading your preset information in PES
            FIFA Player Instructions > PES doesn't have any
            FIFA switch on the fly for high press, team press, etc... > Non existent in PES apart from A/D levels

            PES Fluid Formations > FIFA doesn't have any


            One thing that's really missing from both games though is the CPU Manager AI actually using/switching based off the action on the pitch/injuries/form etc...
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            • CujoMatty
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              • Oct 2007
              • 5439

              #7
              You had me at penalty kicks. Lol
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              • Thetruth9012
                MVP
                • Oct 2013
                • 1287

                #8
                Re: eFootball PES 2020 Demo Impressions

                Why there is no sliders its 2020.

                Its unplayable cpu just had 91% pass percentage....

                Wysłane z mojego Redmi 5 przy użyciu Tapatalka
                2k18 fixes

                Bigs can cover to much ground on defense(they are too fast)

                Late contest on laups matter too much.

                Random blocks doing pumpfakes.

                Leaning shots for guys who have catch and shoot badge should be removed.

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                • papinho81
                  Pro
                  • Feb 2015
                  • 673

                  #9
                  Re: eFootball PES 2020 Demo Impressions

                  Absolutely spot on KG!


                  Great comprehensive review!

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                  • dubcity
                    Hall Of Fame
                    • May 2012
                    • 17867

                    #10
                    Re: eFootball PES 2020 Demo Impressions

                    Originally posted by Thetruth9012
                    Why there is no sliders its 2020.

                    Its unplayable cpu just had 91% pass percentage....

                    Wysłane z mojego Redmi 5 przy użyciu Tapatalka
                    I appreciate everyone who works on FIFA sliders, but in my experience all it does is create endless headaches and constant tickering. And FIFA hasn't changed their sliders since 2012, so it's obvious they don't care about them. Everyone year it's an open question of whether they will remove them.

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                    • KG
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                      • Sep 2005
                      • 17583

                      #11
                      Re: eFootball PES 2020 Demo Impressions

                      Originally posted by dubcity
                      I appreciate everyone who works on FIFA sliders, but in my experience all it does is create endless headaches and constant tickering. And FIFA hasn't changed their sliders since 2012, so it's obvious they don't care about them. Everyone year it's an open question of whether they will remove them.


                      They tweaked them a few years back but yeah, slideritis is real. There’s some things I always tweak but then EA comes with the patches and you’re back to square one


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                      • lareka
                        MVP
                        • Oct 2013
                        • 1041

                        #12
                        Re: eFootball PES 2020 Demo Impressions

                        Originally posted by KG
                        Thanks PAPERNUT! I appreciate the kind words.



                        You know I will dub!

                        What's weird to me is that when you play online vs a random in PES they'll actually change formations/tactics in the gameplan section where as most of the time in FIFA randoms will just go straight into the match. It seems like the PES crowd want to use tactics but unfortunately A LOT of them don't make sense and Konami does a suspect job at explaining them.




                        Crazy right! To me, FIFA gets tactics right.

                        FIFA's Team Sheets > Loading your preset information in PES
                        FIFA Player Instructions > PES doesn't have any
                        FIFA switch on the fly for high press, team press, etc... > Non existent in PES apart from A/D levels

                        PES Fluid Formations > FIFA doesn't have any


                        One thing that's really missing from both games though is the CPU Manager AI actually using/switching based off the action on the pitch/injuries/form etc...
                        An amazing read once again. Everything spot-on !!!

                        Thank you KG.

                        I am really excited for this game. Can't wait to get the full game in September 10
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                        • Walt Frazier
                          Pro
                          • Jan 2014
                          • 989

                          #13
                          Re: eFootball PES 2020 Demo Impressions

                          Excellent write up.

                          Side note: is there any particular reason why, after all these years, this series cannot add (much) better crowds and menus? They are both remnants from a generation ago..............yet never seem to be fixed.

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                          • Spora
                            Rookie
                            • Sep 2016
                            • 56

                            #14
                            Re: eFootball PES 2020 Demo Impressions

                            Originally posted by KG
                            Crazy right! To me, FIFA gets tactics right.

                            FIFA's Team Sheets > Loading your preset information in PES
                            FIFA Player Instructions > PES doesn't have any
                            FIFA switch on the fly for high press, team press, etc... > Non existent in PES apart from A/D levels

                            PES Fluid Formations > FIFA doesn't have any
                            Lots of good points here. I used to think PES was better when it came to tactics but now it seems that fluid formations is the only part where PES is ahead of FIFA. When I bought PES 17 I thought it would take them a year to fix most of these issues. Maybe they will eventually realize that fixing the AI will make the game look better.

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                            • KG
                              Welcome Back
                              • Sep 2005
                              • 17583

                              #15
                              Re: eFootball PES 2020 Demo Impressions

                              Originally posted by lareka
                              An amazing read once again. Everything spot-on !!!

                              Thank you KG.

                              I am really excited for this game. Can't wait to get the full game in September 10
                              Thanks Lareka! I'm optimistic too. Hopefully ML delivers this year.

                              Originally posted by Walt Frazier
                              Excellent write up.

                              Side note: is there any particular reason why, after all these years, this series cannot add (much) better crowds and menus? They are both remnants from a generation ago..............yet never seem to be fixed.
                              Thanks Walt! I think the crowds have improved some but yeah, the menus, especially when you get past the top layer are terrible. Basically Konami have been putting afresh coat of paint on an old beat up car.

                              Originally posted by Spora
                              Lots of good points here. I used to think PES was better when it came to tactics but now it seems that fluid formations is the only part where PES is ahead of FIFA. When I bought PES 17 I thought it would take them a year to fix most of these issues. Maybe they will eventually realize that fixing the AI will make the game look better.
                              Thanks Spora. Agree 100% with you on tactics. Fluid Formations was innovative but the rest of the tactics are confusing and lacking IMO. It's a shame too because tactics dictate so much in PES in terms of how the game plays out.
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