4- and 5-stars Who Don't Get Recruited

[huskerfan01]

Recently I started a dynasty as an OC with New Mexico and I noticed that in almost all of my offline dynasties that there's plenty of 4- and 5-stars that don't get recruited. Typically around Weeks 6-8 when recruiting is in full swing and many of the classes are getting filled out, there's always a couple Top 20 recruits who have 20% or less interest in schools. This leads me to drop in all 500+ points into this 5-star recruit because if nobody else wants him, I will gladly take him.

After a week or so of recruiting said 5-star, I notice his Top 3 schools became New Mexico, Idaho, and Arkansas State. Followed by Alabama, Ohio State, and Oklahoma.

Does anyone know why there's always a few guys who never get recruited? Is it just a typical NCAA '14 recruiting bug?

Side note: I have also realized that in most of my dynasties, no matter the sliders (JKits, Community, etc), I always have the best offense in terms of yardage and passing yardage AND always have the best-run defense (even though I'm an OC). I'm just not sure how I can average 275 passing yards a game and average 30+ points a game and be the best in the country at both when Air Rad offenses are a thing.

[OHNOESNCAA14]

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The top 20 recruits thing is a bug I believe, it happens in my dynasty's too. It sucks because if your really trying to build up a terrible team but keep getting 4-5 stars that none of the top schools wanted it can kill the challenge sometimes.

As for leading in passing yards, I run an Air Raid so it kinda makes sense for me. As for rushing allowed, I almost always lead the nation in rusing allowed too. I always thought that it was because your facing less rush attempts since your not playing 15 min quarters(assuming your not)while the CPU does unless they play you. That might be wrong but thats my thought. Hope this helped!

[sherrane]

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The top 20 recruits thing is a bug I believe, it happens in my dynasty's too. It sucks because if your really trying to build up a terrible team but keep getting 4-5 stars that none of the top schools wanted it can kill the challenge sometimes.

I have a house rule on this scenario where I can only add players to my recruiting board during the season if they have me listed in their school list or if they reside in a pipeline state (the idea is that high school coaches will contact college coaches they have a relationship with to advocate for the kid if he isn't getting recruited). UNM probably has California and Texas as pipelines, so that may not filter out that many recruits in the OP's situation. I was the OC for Georgia State for the first two years of my current dynasty and am now in my 2nd year as head coach. My pipeline states are Georgia, Florida, and South Carolina and it is rare when I can add anyone that is a 4 star or 5 star during the season.

[huskerfan01]

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The top 20 recruits thing is a bug I believe, it happens in my dynasty's too. It sucks because if your really trying to build up a terrible team but keep getting 4-5 stars that none of the top schools wanted it can kill the challenge sometimes.

As for leading in passing yards, I run an Air Raid so it kinda makes sense for me. As for rushing allowed, I almost always lead the nation in rusing allowed too. I always thought that it was because your facing less rush attempts since your not playing 15 min quarters(assuming your not)while the CPU does unless they play you. That might be wrong but thats my thought. Hope this helped!

Yeah - I try and limit myself to just one player like that, especially if it’s at a position of need. Sometimes I like to create a storyline like “this Player couldn’t get in due to academics” or something along those lines. Also, I think I just have an amazing system that needs a few skill players to excel. I just wish the simmed stats of CPU vs CPU games would increase. My results have been right where I expect them to be: 62-14 vs FCS, 35-17 vs 0-8 NMSU, 14-59 at #10 Texas, 35-28 vs UTEP.

I have a house rule on this scenario where I can only add players to my recruiting board during the season if they have me listed in their school list or if they reside in a pipeline state (the idea is that high school coaches will contact college coaches they have a relationship with to advocate for the kid if he isn't getting recruited). UNM probably has California and Texas as pipelines, so that may not filter out that many recruits in the OP's situation. I was the OC for Georgia State for the first two years of my current dynasty and am now in my 2nd year as head coach. My pipeline states are Georgia, Florida, and South Carolina and it is rare when I can add anyone that is a 4 star or 5 star during the season.

I like that rule! I made it a priority to keep everyone from New Mexico. There were 5 recruits this season and I will get commitments from 4 of them. I also want to lockdown Arizona and get a majority of Texas’ 3*. My ideal pipelines would be New Mexico, Arizona, and Texas.

[ZN30]

Re: 4- and 5-stars Who Don't Get Recruited

Recently I started a dynasty as an OC with New Mexico and I noticed that in almost all of my offline dynasties that there's plenty of 4- and 5-stars that don't get recruited. Typically around Weeks 6-8 when recruiting is in full swing and many of the classes are getting filled out, there's always a couple Top 20 recruits who have 20% or less interest in schools. This leads me to drop in all 500+ points into this 5-star recruit because if nobody else wants him, I will gladly take him.

After a week or so of recruiting said 5-star, I notice his Top 3 schools became New Mexico, Idaho, and Arkansas State. Followed by Alabama, Ohio State, and Oklahoma.

Does anyone know why there's always a few guys who never get recruited? Is it just a typical NCAA '14 recruiting bug?

Side note: I have also realized that in most of my dynasties, no matter the sliders (JKits, Community, etc), I always have the best offense in terms of yardage and passing yardage AND always have the best-run defense (even though I'm an OC). I'm just not sure how I can average 275 passing yards a game and average 30+ points a game and be the best in the country at both when Air Rad offenses are a thing.

This is a dynasty bug. There's always a good about of skill position players that go unrecruited. I've actually thought about running a dynasty where I only start recruiting in Week 8 and beyond.

Passing and rushing for CPU are just messed up. There's a premium on rushing in simulated games and the opposite in played/super sim games. The top passers will only have low 3000 in yards per season and the top rushers are typically QBs.

However, if you play a game versus a team that averages 300+ rushing yards and only 150 passing, they will automatically be a pass heavy team, especially if the rushing isn't coming from the QB.

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[ZN30]

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I have a house rule on this scenario where I can only add players to my recruiting board during the season if they have me listed in their school list or if they reside in a pipeline state (the idea is that high school coaches will contact college coaches they have a relationship with to advocate for the kid if he isn't getting recruited). UNM probably has California and Texas as pipelines, so that may not filter out that many recruits in the OP's situation. I was the OC for Georgia State for the first two years of my current dynasty and am now in my 2nd year as head coach. My pipeline states are Georgia, Florida, and South Carolina and it is rare when I can add anyone that is a 4 star or 5 star during the season.

The house rules are great if you can follow them strictly (I can't). But the real problem is that other teams aren't getting these guys. Competition would be a lot tougher if these guys didn't just go unrecruited. There's no way to fix this unfortunately.

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[sherrane]

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The house rules are great if you can follow them strictly (I can't). But the real problem is that other teams aren't getting these guys. Competition would be a lot tougher if these guys didn't just go unrecruited. There's no way to fix this unfortunately.

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No doubt you will suffer some temptation to deviate from this. But this forces you to fully examine players who are available to you and potentially find a diamond in the rough. A few dynasties ago I recruited a 2-star WR to Kent State who ended his career with 375 receptions for ~4,900 yards and 25 TDs.



Last season in my current dynasty I recruited a 1-star DT who is 6'7", 343 pounds and redshirted him. His overall is 44 and he'll probably be in the 47 -- 49 range as a R-FR. I'm a bit excited to see what he can do because height and weight effect game play just as speed and strength do. I think this is the only 1-star player I've ever been interested in playing.

[coachdev]

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So these recruits, if the user does not recruit them. Will any computer team eventually recruit them?

[JHamilton9]

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So these recruits, if the user does not recruit them. Will any computer team eventually recruit them?

I had a season in NCAA 14 where 9 of the top 15 players went un-recruited and didn't sign with anybody. It was another way your team can become more powerful much sooner.

[Geaux Tigahs]

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In my coach dynasty, I only recruit 1 - 3 star players if my team is a 1, 2 or 3 star team. I can recruit 4 star players if my team is 4 or 5 star team. And I can only recruit 5 star players if my team is a 5 or 6 star team.

[Geaux Tigahs]

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The house rules are great if you can follow them strictly (I can't). But the real problem is that other teams aren't getting these guys. Competition would be a lot tougher if these guys didn't just go unrecruited. There's no way to fix this unfortunately.

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Actually you might be able to fix it. Would be a little tedious though. You can modify recruiting results using the EA DB Editor.

[coachdev]

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I had a season in NCAA 14 where 9 of the top 15 players went un-recruited and didn't sign with anybody. It was another way your team can become more powerful much sooner.

Ugh. Recruiting is fun to do, but that sucks having 9/15 top recruits not go anywhere. How noticible was it in other seasons for you?

[huskerfan01]

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Ugh. Recruiting is fun to do, but that sucks having 9/15 top recruits not go anywhere. How noticible was it in other seasons for you?

For me personally, I haven’t seen that many. I’m sure the guy who posted it can answer better. The most I have seen in the Top 10 is maybe 3 at most? And that rarely happens. I would say you’re guaranteed one guy not signing anywhere in the Top 25 each year.

[Geaux Tigahs]

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For me personally, I haven’t seen that many. I’m sure the guy who posted it can answer better. The most I have seen in the Top 10 is maybe 3 at most? And that rarely happens. I would say you’re guaranteed one guy not signing anywhere in the Top 25 each year.

I just looked in my dynasty and 1 top 30, 2 top 50 and 4 top 100 will not sign.

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[huskerfan01]

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I just looked in my dynasty and 1 top 30, 2 top 50 and 4 top 100 will not sign.

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I feel that this is kind of realistic. I feel like there’s always one top 25 kid who ends up at a JUCO.