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  • DeuceDouglas
    Madden Dev Team
    • Apr 2010
    • 4297

    #1

    Create Your Own Scenario [Scenario Suggestions]

    Hey guys,

    I've seen a lot of feedback and discussion around scenarios and the scenario engine over the last week and I think most would agree that its something with a ton of potential to really be something that changes franchise mode for the better. So something I've already done and the purpose of this thread is to essentially "create your own scenario." Here's the template that should be used when creating a scenario:

    Scenario Name: What would you call the scenario?

    Scenario Overview: A brief description of the Scenario

    Trigger Criteria: When/How/Why does this scenario begin?

    What Happens?: What conversations/events occur during this scenario, and when do these events occur. What are the potential outcomes as a result of your interaction.

    What Is Tracked: What kind of stats and in-game events are being tracked?

    Additional Notes: Anything extra that you'd like to add outside of what was covered above.

    I guarantee you guys that the franchise team will be made aware of this thread and scenarios and the Scenario Engine are still in its infancy so there's a lot directions it could go so it's important to be vocal about what kinds of scenarios you like, don't like and would like to see so let's see them!
    Last edited by DeuceDouglas; 07-30-2019, 04:40 PM.
  • DeuceDouglas
    Madden Dev Team
    • Apr 2010
    • 4297

    #2
    Re: Create Your Own Scenario [Scenario Suggestions]

    "The Rookie QB Conundrum"

    Trigger: Drafting a QB in the first couple (probably first or second) rounds
    • A situation similar to Carson Palmer, Patrick Mahomes, Daniel Jones, etc. where a player either may not be deemed ready to start right away or a team may be willing to let the player sit for a year to learn and become better.
    • One decision could be to let the player sit and be required to play, let’s say, less than 10% of total offensive snaps for the year and the reward could be a large XP dump, DEV increase or a certain number of skill points or some combination of the three. Additional layer to this could be requirement of a "mentor" which would be the equivalent of having an 80 OVR QB on the roster to possibly add a multiplier to the reward.
    • Other decision could be to make him the Day 1 starter and this would be more of a long term scenario where his performance is evaluated at the end of the year and if he performs well, he receives a similar (and maybe larger) reward to if you had chosen to not play him. And then if he doesn't perform well, he could have his DEV regress to emulate throwing him to the fire stunting his growth.
    • Could really be used for any position but would mainly apply, and be most appropriate for, QB's.



    "Fifth-Year Option"

    Trigger: Rookie first-rounder entering his fourth season
    • A great opportunity to combine scenarios with authenticity and additional roster management. It would be a consistent scenario in that it would pop up nearly every year but each time it would be a different decision on a different kind of player.
    • Dialogue could include your GM coming to you asking about picking up a players fifth-year option and be a very basic Yes/No option.
    • Picking up a players option could result in a morale boost for the player as well as the offense or defense if he’s established himself as a key player. Also could result in a morale decline for other players at his position as their chance to start or get paid has now gone down.
    • Declining a players option could either result in a severe hit to the players morale and thus a ratings decrease that worsens their performance. As mentioned before if the player was established this could negatively affect team morale if the option was declined. Possibly the most interesting effect in my opinion would be actually giving the player a significant morale boost for the season to emulate a player over performing in their contract year but this impact would also come with the caveat that the player would become incredibly hard or impossible to re-sign forcing you to use the franchise tag on him or let him go.



    "The Anthony Davis, Marshawn Lynch, Telvin Smith, etc."

    Trigger: Random during the offseason. Player below average retirement age comes to you saying that he's going to (or would like to) spend a year away from football.
    • Would have to be rare and somewhat contextually appropriate (i.e. a player with very low morale at the end of season). Wouldn’t want Patrick Mahomes taking a year off after a 50 TD season.
    • Could create interesting dialogue where you convince him to play but it comes along with a huge morale hit as well as maybe a morale cap of 25 to emulate his heart not being all there.
    • On the other side, you're not able to convince him to play and you're suddenly left with an unexpected roster hole and you don't know if he's coming back in Week 10, after the season or not at all forcing you to adapt and make decisions on the fly.
    • One other option could be to respect his wishes, it could increase some form of respect from players or something along those lines or in a more basic sense, simply make him more likely to return at the end of the season or at some point during the season.



    "New Kid on the Block"

    Trigger: Drafted a player in the first three rounds at an established starter (or even possibly role player’s) position.
    • An extreme case could have the player potentially being replaced demanding a trade or to be cut and failure to do so would result in a heavy morale hit and, if possible and contextually appropriate, a holdout. Also could result in a player making other players upset due to his negativity which could create additional scenarios (i.e. other players coming to you wanting the player gone)
    • A more typical case would result in the player complaining or being frustrated about his spot on the team being in jeopardy and could come with a varying degree of morale drop.
    • On the other side of that, for a team player type of personality, it could be a move that motivates the player and actually results in a morale boost for maybe not only him but the player drafted as well.



    "Position Battle"

    Trigger: Having two players at the top of their position (on the depth chart) within a couple OVR of each other; also could limit this to only involving new additions whether it be through the trade, FA or the draft to avoid the possibility of repeating year-over-year. Example: If you’re the Dolphins and you have Ryan Fitzpatrick and acquire Josh Rosen it triggers the “position battle” scenario
    • Would almost consider this a passive scenario where maybe your coordinator comes to you and makes you aware of the battle but there is no decision making or the decision is strictly who you want to initially start during the preseason with no effect yet. Then after three preseason games, you again get notified and updated with a comparison of stats between the two players in the battle and have to choose who gets the starting job.
    • Then based on who you choose, it could have different effects where if you choose the player with worse stats, team morale goes down. If it’s rookie versus veteran and you choose the rookie, veterans morale goes down while if you choose the vet, it goes up. Could also limit any effects to strictly the two players involved where winner gets morale boost, loser takes a hit.



    "Return to Glory"

    Trigger: Player who retired in previous season for one last season.
    • Probably would have to limit this to higher end players and similar to the player taking a year off it would have to be rare but always thought this was a cool part of older Madden's.
    • Could have it go a couple different ways, one with the player coming back to your team and maybe if you’re not viewed as a contender based on the previous season, the player comes back asking for a release or trade.


    "The Replacement"

    Trigger: Backup has good game (or multiple good games) while replacing an injured player
    • Similar to position battles above where when the original starter came back you were simply shown an A or B decision with the original starter and his backup along with how his backup performed with the decision being on who continues to be the starter.
    • Choosing the original starter resulting in no real effect on him but a potentially adverse effect on the backup who’s been performing well. Same concept could be used for the team as well where team/unit could get upset that you didn’t go with the player performing.
    • Choosing the backup which could result in a bump in morale for him now that he gets to be the starter and potentially extremely negative impact for the original starter now that he’s lost his job due to injury. Same kind of team/unit effects could apply here as well.
    • Maybe a third option where you decide that you want to get both players involved and then you have a requirement for the rest of the season to get each player 10 touches per game or a certain amount of total snaps that could then lead to one of them being upset if they weren’t achieving. Choosing this option could also result in only the starter being upset or even both of them being upset because they’re essentially seeing both of their roles decrease.



    "Team Turmoil"

    Trigger: Elite on one side of the ball, terrible on the other side of the ball over the span of several weeks. (i.e. 2018 Jaguars)
    • Dialogue here could include one of your coordinators coming to the HC and discussing an uneasiness in the offensive/defensive room and that if things don’t change quickly things could get worse.
    • Options could be committing to a certain PPG/YPG total over the next few games. Doesn’t necessarily have to be based around winning the game so much as performing. Meet the requirements and things will “blow over” and the reward will be more so avoiding conflict than actually gaining anything. Don’t meet the requirements and be at risk of a potentially large hit to morale and thus ratings as the unit has given up on the other side of the ball.
    • Another option with this is having it be a challenge scenario where you don't get to commit to anything and just have tiered benchmarks along with tiered rewards and penalties. So for the Jaguars example:
      Gold: Avg. 30 PPG over next 3 games
      Reward: + Offensive Morale + Defensive Morale
      Silver: Avg. 25 PPG over next 3 games
      Reward: + Defensive Morale
      Bronze:Avg. 20 PPG over next 3 games
      Reward: Maintains morale; avoids conflict
      Failure: Less than 20 PPG over next 3 games
      Penalty: - Defensive Morale



    "Cap Casualty"

    Trigger: Limited cap and a player on the team with a significantly larger cap savings than potential penalty
    • This could be framed as the GM coming to the coach and asking how you feel about a certain player and if you feel like his presence is required or if the team could survive losing him.
    • Potential effects could be a morale boost for the player if you decide to keep him or maybe a team based result depending on what type of player he is. If you cut a team leader it could have an adverse effect while if you cut a player that has low morale or isn’t a key contributor it has a positive effect.



    "Green With Envy"

    Trigger: Teammate or player at same position but on another team gets a big money contract with similar rated player whose contract expires soon on the roster

    • This could be handled a couple of ways. One, with a teammate (probably would be best to have the player be on the same side of the ball) signing a significant contract which triggers a scenario where a teammate comes to you asking when he’s going to get his and that he hopes you keep him in mind when it comes contract time.
    • Another would be when a similarly rated player from around the league and at the same position signs a contract larger than the one the player currently has. Player then comes to you asking if you saw the contract so-and-so got and again gets into you keeping him in mind come contract time.
    • This could create a very “do or die” negotiation scenario with the player where you have to come with a good offer initially or he’ll instantly reject you.



    "Target on Your Back"

    Trigger: Past mid-season with an undefeated record or coming off a Super Bowl win.
    • Opponents would get a significant morale boost heading into game against your/another team that is 8-0 or better or coming off a Super Bowl winning season.
    • Emulates that target on your back/#1 spot dynamic where even if the SB winner starts the season slow the next year it’s still a big game for each team and you tend to get that teams best game because they’re the champs.
    • Could also expand this dynamic to AFC/NFC champions
    • Would likely need to be the type of scenario that has an option to disable.



    "Make It or Break It"

    Trigger: Player that is on the outside looking in heading into the final preseason game
    • It could be framed as the GM coming to you and saying that he hasn’t seen enough of this player to warrant keeping them on the roster and at that point you could either agree or disagree. Agreeing would essentially be cutting him but he would stay on the roster until after the game. Disagreeing would trigger some kind of goal with the player for him to earn his roster spot.
    • In addition to this, if you agreed that he should be cut and then he had a nice game in the final preseason game, the GM would follow up and ask if you were sure cutting him would be the right move.
    • If you disagreed and the player had a bad game, if eligible, the GM would give you an opportunity to keep the player on the practice squad.



    "In Need of a Mentor"

    Trigger: Rookie with a decent OVR but Normal DEV gets drafted
    • Idea here would be similar to the rookie quarterback one where the player is deemed “not ready” to play or in need of some direction to get the most out of him.
    • Would come with the requirement to get or have a player with a certain criteria of attributes (80+ OVR, 80+ AWR/PRC) at his position.
    • Again the idea here would be similar to the rookie QB scenario where basically by playing this player less and giving him a year to learn, it could yield potentially huge return in the form of XP, DEV trait upgrade, both or something else.
    Last edited by DeuceDouglas; 06-27-2019, 02:19 PM.

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    • canes21
      Hall Of Fame
      • Sep 2008
      • 22837

      #3
      Re: Create Your Own Scenario [Scenario Suggestions]

      My first thought was something similar to your Mentor scenario.

      Trigger: You draft a player who is probably going to be a starter for you in the long-run, but they may not just be ready yet.
      • Have a veteran in their position group that has an awareness rating over a certain threshold. I'd also love to see a trait/ability that is given to older players that gives them the ability to "teach" younger players things, boosting their awareness progression. This veteran can start over the rookie while potentially boosting their growth, especially their intangibles.
      • Force the rookie into the fire from the get-go. If things go well his morale will skyrocket and he receives a big bonus to progression to simulate them adjusting to the league and breaking through. If they struggle then they may fall stunt their growth, potentially even lose a development trait or even two.

      Anything to give aging players who are declining physically, but still great mentally more value is a plus in my book. I love the way mentors are actually valuable in 2k and I would really like to see something like this come into Madden. I would enjoy seeing something like the CPU drafting a QB in the first round and still starting their aging QB or even trading/signing one to mentor him for a year or two before he is given the reigns when ready.
      “No one is more hated than he who speaks the truth.”


      ― Plato

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      • canes21
        Hall Of Fame
        • Sep 2008
        • 22837

        #4
        Re: Create Your Own Scenario [Scenario Suggestions]

        Shell Shocked:

        Trigger: A young QB is struggling through the first 3-6 games of their career. If they are continuously put out there in a situation they cannot succeed in they may become a shell-shocked QB who can never reach their true potential.
        • Bench them. They aren't ready for the big show or the team isn't ready yet to be good enough to support the young buck. This will guarantee they do not stunt their growth. Their morale may be hurt for getting benched. They may feel like they failed even if it wasn't their fault.
        • Leave them in there to take their lumps. They have a good chance of having their growth stunted, but they also have a chance to come out of the situation tougher than ever. This rookie QB may have had a terrible first year, had no protection from his OL, may have had a bad supporting cast, but he fought through it, got a bag full of XP, plus became resistant to pressure in the pocket. Nothing can scare them after what they went through their rookie year.
        • Sign a veteran QB for them to sit behind and learn from. They do not have their growth stunted, they have a chance to have their awareness grow at an increased rate while learning from the veteran. This is the safest option of the 3. It is very similar to the first option, but brings on the ability for the veteran to help the rookie grow while not hurting their morale.
        Last edited by canes21; 06-21-2019, 11:46 PM.
        “No one is more hated than he who speaks the truth.”


        ― Plato

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        • crenk
          Rookie
          • Jan 2009
          • 396

          #5
          Re: Create Your Own Scenario [Scenario Suggestions]

          Scenario: position switch.

          Trigger: A college player enters the draft or a after draft is presented with the opportunity to switch positions. They have great athletic ability but because of certain limitations probably will not excell at their current position.

          - keep them at their natural position. After all they may develop and progress at what has made them great or they could be complete busts.

          -make the switch. They could have a low overall and never progress, or they could after a period of time become productive or even great players

          ie:

          Antonio Gates – Linebacker to Tight End.
          Hines Ward – Quarterback/Running Back to Wide Receiver. ...
          Julian Edelman – Quarterback to Wide Receiver. ...
          Antwaan Randle-El – Quarterback to Wide Receiver. ...
          Dante Hall – Running Back to Kick Return Specialist. ...
          Dallas Clark – Linebacker to Tight End. .

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          • jfsolo
            Live Action, please?
            • May 2003
            • 12965

            #6
            Re: Create Your Own Scenario [Scenario Suggestions]

            Scenario "I'm ready to go coach aka the "The Keven Durant"

            It takes the injury Big Decision and adds more gravitas to it.

            Trigger: A starting QB, 90 OVR player or any Superstar/X-Factor player wants to comeback early from an injury when you team is fighting for a playoff birth or in the playoffs already. The team doctor says he's can go, the head trainer disagrees. The player want to play
            • You don't let the player play the entire team loses 10 pts morale
            • Team wins without the player 15 pts morale boost for entire team
            • Team loses without the player 15 pts morale loss for entire team
            • You let the player play the entire team gets a 10 pts morale boost for the game
            • You win the game the player doesn't get hurt again another 20 pts morale boost after the game
            • You win and the player gets hurt again a lost of 10 pts morale
            • You lose and the player doesn't get hurt lost of 5 pts morale
            • You lose and the player gets hurt again lost of 25 pts morale
            Jordan Mychal Lemos
            @crypticjordan

            Do this today: Instead of $%*#!@& on a game you're not going to play or movie you're not going to watch, say something good about a piece of media you're excited about.

            Do the same thing tomorrow. And the next. Now do it forever.

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            • 4thQtrStre5S
              MVP
              • Nov 2013
              • 3051

              #7
              Re: Create Your Own Scenario [Scenario Suggestions]

              Off the top of my head here:

              *Facing Former Team*

              This could have any number of benefits from a morale boost to the player starting against the former team. If it is a veteran player of the former team it may allow for the reveal of a passing concept on a few plays throughout the game or highlight the coverage the opponent is most practiced in for the game.

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              • 4thQtrStre5S
                MVP
                • Nov 2013
                • 3051

                #8
                Re: Create Your Own Scenario [Scenario Suggestions]

                * Social Awareness*

                The team has a special guest for a game. The game would be random and could happen on the first game of the year or the playoffs, etc. I am thinking of the special quest the ST. Louis Blues hockey team had during their Cup win.

                The team would get a boost of morale or a similar bonus.

                The point being a great opportunity to bring real life illnesses, tragedies and so forth into a game and along with a gameplay boost maybe some of the users will become a little more aware of a real-life issue in which they may be influenced to research and get involved with helping.

                (maybe this is a little too deep. I just believe it is an important topic)

                I remember when WR Brandon Marshall wore green shoes to support mental health. At the time that was a fine..Now it is allowed. but it brought awareness and I felt it boosted fans and the team.
                Last edited by 4thQtrStre5S; 06-21-2019, 11:38 PM.

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                • UFCMPunk
                  All Star
                  • Jan 2016
                  • 8750

                  #9
                  Re: Create Your Own Scenario [Scenario Suggestions]

                  Scenario: "It's All or Nothing" AKA The Peyton Manning/Kirk Cousins Effect

                  Trigger: Sign a 80 OVR or higher QB in Free Agency. You may have a young QB(Tebow in Denver's case) or a stop gap(Case Keenum in Minnesota's case) that is good, but not good enough to put you over the hump. Sign a big time QB to get you over the hump and a Super Bowl win.

                  Example: If you win the Super Bowl, you gain morale boosts for the team, if you miss the playoffs morale goes down heading into the next season(IE Vikings this year). If after you fail to win a Super Bowl within the time frame, you must fire your Head Coach or if they had General Managers in the game, you would be fired as GM.

                  Scenario: It's All or Nothing Draft Edition AKA The RG3, Jared Goff & Carson Wentz

                  Trigger: In the offseason, make a blockbuster trade to move up into the Top 5 of the Draft and draft your new Face of The Franchise. While sacrificing depth and future draft picks, you now face a ton of pressure in developing and hoping this QB wins a Lombardi.

                  Example: Vikings don't make the playoffs in 2020 and the Cousins' experiment becomes a failure. In 2021, the Vikings are desperate for a QB but slotted in the middle of the draft order. Make a similar move the Rams made to acquire the number one pick and take the top QB in this draft.

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                  • secondsolution
                    Pro
                    • May 2012
                    • 538

                    #10
                    Re: Create Your Own Scenario [Scenario Suggestions]

                    Thank you Deuce for making this thread. I'd love to see EA try to incorporate some of these.

                    The Unwanted Franchise Tag

                    Trigger:
                    You have a player who already has low morale (let's say less than 50) who's off contract and refused your contract offer. You tag them.

                    Choices:
                    The player comes and demands a trade stating he doesn't want to play for this team anymore and wants you to agree to trading him before the end of the off-season

                    Effects:
                    Trading him results in a 10+ morale boost for the team as they didn't want someone on the team that doesn't want to be there.
                    Not trading him results in a 20- morale decrease for the entire team, the player's morale drops to 1 and his development trait drops to the lowest. The rationale being that he doesn't want to be there so he's no longer putting in 100%. If possible could also see stats drop down as well

                    it's time to bench the starter

                    Trigger: This occurs when you have a starter have a series of bad games (i.e a QB throws multiple interceptions 3 weeks in a row) and there is an appropriate starter behind them on the depth chart (within 10 overall points which should prevent this happening to Tom Brady etc)

                    Choices: Your coordinator comes to you and says we need to drop the player for the back-up. You and choose to or continue with the starter

                    Effects: Dropping the starter results in a big moral drop for the starter (let's say 30) and a big boost for the back up. The back up is also given targets to reach (like 10 TDs and no interceptions for the next 3 weeks) and if he reaches it he gets a dev increase and a big XP boost
                    If you choose to continue with the starter he gets a 10+ morale jump and the back up loses 20 morale

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                    • Jershy88
                      Rookie
                      • Oct 2013
                      • 299

                      #11
                      Re: Create Your Own Scenario [Scenario Suggestions]

                      The Kurt Warner and Tom Brady

                      Trigger: When a starter goes down and a backup performs at a high level for two or more games.

                      - The backup player gets additional XP for great performances
                      - The backup player will continue to get XP boosts if he remains the starter after the other player comes back from injury.
                      -This would finally give madden franchise the chance to make a Tom brady or Kurt Warner type scenario possible.

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                      • Sucram7777
                        Rookie
                        • Aug 2014
                        • 332

                        #12
                        Re: Create Your Own Scenario [Scenario Suggestions]

                        Scenario - The "Elephant In the Room"

                        Trigger - Losing Streak (3~4 games)

                        A random Starter calls out another player(s) in the Locker Room as the one(s) being responsible for the team's current hardship. Dependent on the teams current statistics:


                        - Giving Up 300 passing yds/game (DBs get called out)
                        - No (or very few) amount of Sacks (D-Line getting called out)
                        - Averaging 2 INTs per game (QB gets called out)
                        - Getting Sacked Multiple times per game (O-Line gets called out)
                        - Averaging subpar Rushing/Receiving Yds - (RB/WRs get called out)


                        etc. etc.


                        The players getting called on suffer a considerable drop in morale.

                        Note: If we had "personalities" like the NBA games, I think that would supplement it well, as the more expressive players are likely to be the ones to help trigger the scenario.
                        Last edited by Sucram7777; 06-22-2019, 04:30 PM.

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                        • Jershy88
                          Rookie
                          • Oct 2013
                          • 299

                          #13
                          Re: Create Your Own Scenario [Scenario Suggestions]

                          How is this post not 10 pages long yet? This is a feature we all have been asking for - people throw some suggestions out there!

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                          • Executor
                            Pro
                            • Aug 2012
                            • 549

                            #14
                            Re: Create Your Own Scenario [Scenario Suggestions]

                            * Off the scrap heap *

                            Triggers when: you're hit with an injury bug at certain position, where your top two guys go down for a longer period of time. You sign a street free agent, and:

                            - he's given a certain goal or set of goals, e.g. rush for 400+ yards in next five games, have three INTs in next six games, etc.

                            - if the guy hits them, he's awarded the amount of skill points which would raise his OVR one point above the OVR of the second-best guy on your team at his position (the lower rated of the injured ones), essentially creating a positional battle and making you think about maybe keeping the new guy instead of one of the injured ones

                            - if the new guy does not meet the goals his OVR drops one point below the lowest rated guy at his position at your roster

                            - it may not be the perfect comparison but I am thinking something like a Pierre Desir kind of a scenario (bounced around the league a bit and now the Colts finally may have something at CB)
                            Last edited by Executor; 06-23-2019, 04:17 PM.
                            Montreal Canadiens
                            Minnesota Timberwolves
                            Green Bay Packers
                            Marshall Thundering Herd
                            Los Angeles Dodgers

                            "Greater than I, lesser than I, what does it matter to my functioning?"
                            (Steve Perry: Shadows of the Empire)

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                            • Executor
                              Pro
                              • Aug 2012
                              • 549

                              #15
                              Re: Create Your Own Scenario [Scenario Suggestions]

                              * Come and get me (veteran version) *

                              Triggers: anywhere during the season or offseason. A high OVR veteran from another team and in the last year of his contract approaches you and says "I want to play for you next season, go get me". But, you would need to have a clear need at the position, and be a viable contender. Otherwise the scenario would not trigger.

                              Possible outcomes: you sign the guy, and everybody on that side of the ball gets a slight boost to morale, except for players on that particular position who actually take a big morale hit.

                              Conversely, you do not sign a guy (say he's a safety) and rather choose to roll with the young/unproven ones. Now all your safeties get a HUGE morale boost, while all other defensive players take a light morale hit (for an extended period of time, perhaps)

                              Obvious comparison here is Earl Thomas flirting with Dallas Cowboys last couple of seasons.
                              Montreal Canadiens
                              Minnesota Timberwolves
                              Green Bay Packers
                              Marshall Thundering Herd
                              Los Angeles Dodgers

                              "Greater than I, lesser than I, what does it matter to my functioning?"
                              (Steve Perry: Shadows of the Empire)

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