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  • dsj914
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    • Jul 2011
    • 132

    #1

    2K Does Just Enough to Destroy MyCareer...

    I wish this could be a positive post, but after a week of gameplay it’s time to face reality. MyCareer/Park is 2Ks build of Pure Trash.

    Let me start with the positives - There’s a lot of free VC given out this year and the new neighborhood is convenient. That’s where the pleasantries stop and there’s a caveat here...

    Free VC in dodgeball is very helpful (I’ve won 100K from it). I’m also fortunate to work from home so unless you’re unemployed, today was the first chance you had to even play dodgeball bc it occurs during the middle of the work/school day. The neighborhood also holds up to roughly 80 people, but more often than not, it’s only 20 or so playing in the park. I’ve only had it happen once where all courts had active games. Also be prepared to wait 30 minutes if you want to play in the Rec Center. However, after one game of Middle School ‘let’s clogg the paint and set picks’ style of basketball, I highly recommend you don’t indulge yourself.

    Moving on to park, no surprise that the same cheese exists. The parks are filled with Sharpshooters of all heights, And1 super dribblers, and the extremely realistic 7’3 Glass Cleaners. If you make anything else, chances are you won’t have a pleasurable experience. Moving into gameplay, it’s flooded with moving screens, vigorous smashing of the steal button (with extremely high success rate) and a bunch of people who have never played basketball outside of sitting on their couch. I won’t get too deep on this but if you’re a post scorer, a pure sharp will either body you in the paint, pull the chair or poke the ball out. When you do happen to beat your man, you will get double teams, pass the ball in slow motion and watch the other team score on a fast break. Sadly it’s way too much negative for me to get into.

    Moving onto the actual games, enjoy getting turnovers as every CPU defender swipes at the ball. In my opinion just play on pro until you get to at least 85, otherwise you will curse repeatedly and want to throw your controller. As an FYI, take it with open arms when the CPU shoots 90% on HOF (though this is nothing new).

    The fan system is broken and doesn’t correlate properly to your performance and if you have 10 50 point games, there is a commentary glitch at the beginning of each game. Most troubling are the 2k generated rookies which ruin the game. Be prepared for many “77 OVRs” who have high 88s in everything except intangibles, shot IQ, consistency, etc. (the things that affect your overall but mean absolutely nothing during gameplay). Also be prepared to invest into roughly 100 games just to hit 90. That is when the “real” grind begins.

    So many more terrible things I can mention, but I’ll just sum it up and say there’s a reason why users give this 2/10 stars.

    My advice is either invest the resources into making this a complete mode, or separate MyCareer and Park and just start completely over from scratch. Hopefully I’ll find a way to sell a digital copy of the game.

    Do better 2K...


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  • Erithtotl
    Pro
    • Aug 2002
    • 679

    #2
    Re: 2K Does Just Enough to Destroy MyCareer...

    I don't understand why park is always so empty. Maybe they need to work on their load balancing or something. It is hard to get a game.

    I am usually very happy with how fast rec center gets a game going. Much faster than last year's walk on pro-am. The quality of gameplay is super low though. Part of that is people still understanding the game. Ironically, making outlet passing easier I think has really hurt gameplay. Everyone (including myself) hated the random wayward outlet pass mechanic last year. But this year, they are very accurate, meaning if you are a big man you will find yourself mostly running between your basket and the opposing 3 point line, watching someone chuck a shot, then running back.

    The biggest thing people need to work on is guarding their man. I feel like last year most good players got a handle on keeping close to sharps but this year people seem to have all forgotten again.

    It sounds like your frustrations in mycareer are mostly about HOF mode? On superstar with a post scorer I routinely post 30-40 ppg with 10+ boards, frequent triple doubles, etc. HOF is ridiculous but oh well.

    Interesting comments about dodgeball. I haven't paid attention to that at all maybe I should. How many games did it take to get 100K?

    Also, yes, the grind is horrible. It was horrible last year too. No real reason to expect difference, its the golden goose for 2K.

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    • dsj914
      Rookie
      • Jul 2011
      • 132

      #3
      Re: 2K Does Just Enough to Destroy MyCareer...

      Originally posted by Erithtotl
      I don't understand why park is always so empty. Maybe they need to work on their load balancing or something. It is hard to get a game.



      I am usually very happy with how fast rec center gets a game going. Much faster than last year's walk on pro-am. The quality of gameplay is super low though. Part of that is people still understanding the game. Ironically, making outlet passing easier I think has really hurt gameplay. Everyone (including myself) hated the random wayward outlet pass mechanic last year. But this year, they are very accurate, meaning if you are a big man you will find yourself mostly running between your basket and the opposing 3 point line, watching someone chuck a shot, then running back.



      The biggest thing people need to work on is guarding their man. I feel like last year most good players got a handle on keeping close to sharps but this year people seem to have all forgotten again.



      It sounds like your frustrations in mycareer are mostly about HOF mode? On superstar with a post scorer I routinely post 30-40 ppg with 10+ boards, frequent triple doubles, etc. HOF is ridiculous but oh well.



      Interesting comments about dodgeball. I haven't paid attention to that at all maybe I should. How many games did it take to get 100K?



      Also, yes, the grind is horrible. It was horrible last year too. No real reason to expect difference, its the golden goose for 2K.


      You get 25K for winning dodgeball.

      I dominate on HOF (70 points with 5 minute quarters) the roster quality is just atrocious and everyone has 85+ open three, but 50 moving and contested. It’s the steal mechanics and FG%.

      Park is the bigger issue. Post play continues to be useless, and everyone just zig zags and hits fadeaway half court threes. I thought this would be fixed in 19, but it’s worst.

      It’s probably my fault for expecting realistic gameplay this year...


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      • dsj914
        Rookie
        • Jul 2011
        • 132

        #4
        2K Does Just Enough to Destroy MyCareer...

        In the spirit of being more positive, there is actually an easy fix...

        Put the fake half court shooting in the slam ball park, and patch for realistic gameplay in the regular parks.


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        • nddot
          Pro
          • Sep 2012
          • 611

          #5
          Re: 2K Does Just Enough to Destroy MyCareer...

          Cpu on HoF.... Good lord. You cant tell me that the greed made them do this.
          If you want to get somehow a good amount of mypoints without having to post out ridiculous numbers on the board, hof is the way to go but... Man i wanna curse the whole 2k team so bad lol
          "I just wanna be heaaaaaaaaard"

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          • dsj914
            Rookie
            • Jul 2011
            • 132

            #6
            Re: 2K Does Just Enough to Destroy MyCareer...

            Originally posted by nddot
            Cpu on HoF.... Good lord. You cant tell me that the greed made them do this.
            If you want to get somehow a good amount of mypoints without having to post out ridiculous numbers on the board, hof is the way to go but... Man i wanna curse the whole 2k team so bad lol


            The shooting percentage is ridiculous on levels as they will shoot lightly contested shots at an 80% clip even on pro (point guards that shoot when you get underneath a screen will not miss).

            For someone who wants to make a true big (7ft or shorter) and is not a pure glass, my heart goes out to you because you will be as useless as my 92 post scorer in park (about 50 hours and 225K VC I’ll never get back).

            However I don’t completely hate this because most players are trash so they cheese with 7’3 Glass Cleaners so for you people, I hope you never unlock hustle rebound.

            I do think I might have found a realistic build that even 2K can’t screw up. Still testing against the 7’3 cheese in Park to be sure though.


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            • GK_11
              Rookie
              • Nov 2013
              • 159

              #7
              Re: 2K Does Just Enough to Destroy MyCareer...

              I feel like some of your complaints are valid, but some of the others are kind of strange.

              Your 100% right about outlet pass accuracy. Its completely ruined the already fragile balance of play in walk on. They need to really incentivize getting back on D/penalize not getting back on D or just make the outlet passes super unreliable again because that game mode is basically unplayable right now.

              Its also just amazing how toxic people are in there.

              Youre also 100% right about the park being empty too. They need to either add a much quicker timeout (it seems to be you can stand idle in the park for at least an hour before being kicked out), or simply get rid of a bunch of servers. They seem to max out at 150 players, but I have never seen one even half full. The only place that keeps things moving quickly is the cages, because you dont have all of the idlers taking up spots.

              I disagree about the park gameplay though. If youre having trouble getting the spacing to post up in a full court 3 on 3 game, thats on you and your teammates. Im also a 6'11 rim protector and ive had more than enough time and space to post up.

              I love the improvement to park gameplay. It feels like it is based mostly around the pick and roll, which is how pickup games should feel. Ill never understand why there is no 4 v 4 full court in this game though - that is the most common full court casual basketball game, ive nevet seen anyone play 3 on 3 full court, its wayyy too much space. I really think 4 v 4 park would be the perfect medium between rec center and park right now.

              What exactly is your complaint about HOF though? That its too hard? I find the game plays awesome, and after taking a couple spankings I win most of the games I should, and find the opponent pretty much hovers around 50/40 shooting percentages.

              Also why is the fan system broken? I feel like it works pretty well - the flashier i play, the more quickly i accrue fans. Maybe its something i havent noticed but i liked the way this mechanic works this year.

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              • osk9
                Rookie
                • Aug 2016
                • 188

                #8
                Re: 2K Does Just Enough to Destroy MyCareer...

                Originally posted by GK_11
                I feel like some of your complaints are valid, but some of the others are kind of strange.

                Your 100% right about outlet pass accuracy. Its completely ruined the already fragile balance of play in walk on. They need to really incentivize getting back on D/penalize not getting back on D or just make the outlet passes super unreliable again because that game mode is basically unplayable right now.

                Its also just amazing how toxic people are in there.

                Youre also 100% right about the park being empty too. They need to either add a much quicker timeout (it seems to be you can stand idle in the park for at least an hour before being kicked out), or simply get rid of a bunch of servers. They seem to max out at 150 players, but I have never seen one even half full. The only place that keeps things moving quickly is the cages, because you dont have all of the idlers taking up spots.

                I disagree about the park gameplay though. If youre having trouble getting the spacing to post up in a full court 3 on 3 game, thats on you and your teammates. Im also a 6'11 rim protector and ive had more than enough time and space to post up.

                I love the improvement to park gameplay. It feels like it is based mostly around the pick and roll, which is how pickup games should feel. Ill never understand why there is no 4 v 4 full court in this game though - that is the most common full court casual basketball game, ive nevet seen anyone play 3 on 3 full court, its wayyy too much space. I really think 4 v 4 park would be the perfect medium between rec center and park right now.

                What exactly is your complaint about HOF though? That its too hard? I find the game plays awesome, and after taking a couple spankings I win most of the games I should, and find the opponent pretty much hovers around 50/40 shooting percentages.

                Also why is the fan system broken? I feel like it works pretty well - the flashier i play, the more quickly i accrue fans. Maybe its something i havent noticed but i liked the way this mechanic works this year.
                I feel like this is a much more logical assessment of where this game is at. Original post is a touch too emotional lol..no disrespect intended. I play this game too, I have issues with some things too, but to go as far as to use the word "destroy" I don't know about that.

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                • dsj914
                  Rookie
                  • Jul 2011
                  • 132

                  #9
                  2K Does Just Enough to Destroy MyCareer...

                  Originally posted by osk9
                  I feel like this is a much more logical assessment of where this game is at. Original post is a touch too emotional lol..no disrespect intended. I play this game too, I have issues with some things too, but to go as far as to use the word "destroy" I don't know about that.


                  Park is unplayable at times due to slow passing mechanics that get tipped or caught and trash players that spam the steal button during on ball defense or immediately after a rebound. Instead of kicking them out after three fouls, 2K rewards them because the shot clock resets to 14 seconds then it takes 5 seconds to inbound the ball (because a your teammate has to come behind you to get the ball bc the defender is strumming the steal button like a guitar).

                  2 on 2 continues to be a joke bc it’s a pure playmakers, sharps or shot creators at 6’3 that just runs back and forth behind MOVING screens and then shoots a fadeaway.

                  I’d say more comical than emotional with my initial post, but it’s no way someone truly enjoys park unless they are the cheese builds I’ve mentioned. If someone can show me a NBA footage of an actual player dribbling as fast as possible to their left or right then shooting a 25ft semi contested fadeaway (without the shot clock expiring) 10 times in a single game, I’ll buy everyone who commented a copy of 2K19.

                  I’ll happily wait, because that’s not basketball. That’s a load of crappy arcade basketball created for children and teenagers/adults take advantage of it. The only way to play park and remotely have fun is to join the cheese.

                  As mentioned earlier, I dominate on HOF in MyCareer. The CPU shooting percentage and atrocious 2K draft classes (combined with their progression/potential system) ruins the game after 4 or 5 seasons because every player 1-4 has at least an 80 open three.

                  If that’s your idea of fun realistic basketball, more power to you. Just not the type of game I personally enjoy. IMO everyone is giving 2K a pass because Live’s gameplay is light years behind.


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                  • Yesh2kdone
                    Banned
                    • Feb 2015
                    • 1412

                    #10
                    Re: 2K Does Just Enough to Destroy MyCareer...

                    OK, so anyone who knows a few of my posts will know that I've given 2k a rough time where I feel it's necessary, and I certainly have my issues with them again this year for some of their off-court antics, but the gameplay is good this year; it's not perfect by any stretch, but it's nowhere near what is written about in the OP.

                    The post play this year is better than it's ever been, and some of the moves you can chain together are fantastic:

                    <iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/_zD3H9sTNbA" frameborder="0" allow="autoplay; encrypted-media" allowfullscreen></iframe>

                    I don't know what you really want; I only play on HoF, and have no idea how you can play in the post on 5 min qtrs and get 70pts, for a start the double teams prevent this. I think I've hit 70 twice and I'm in late Feb.

                    You have to let the chemistry build too, I know it gets quickly to maxed out, but I'm pretty sure it's still improving beyond that as you progress through the year.

                    I think some dudes have been spoilt by the watering down of HoF difficulty from 2k16 onwards. Before that, HoF was always insane and super-cheesy, and this year still isn't anywhere near 2k14 level of craziness.

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                    • GK_11
                      Rookie
                      • Nov 2013
                      • 159

                      #11
                      Re: 2K Does Just Enough to Destroy MyCareer...

                      Originally posted by dsj914
                      1.) Park is unplayable at times due to slow passing mechanics that get tipped or caught and trash players that spam the steal button during on ball defense or immediately after a rebound.

                      2.) I'd say more comical than emotional with my initial post...

                      3.) but it’s no way someone truly enjoys park unless they are the cheese builds I’ve mentioned. If someone can show me a NBA footage of an actual player dribbling as fast as possible to their left or right then shooting a 25ft semi contested fadeaway (without the shot clock expiring) 10 times in a single game, I’ll buy everyone who commented a copy of 2K19.


                      4.) As mentioned earlier, I dominate on HOF in MyCareer. The CPU shooting percentage and atrocious 2K draft classes (combined with their progression/potential system) ruins the game after 4 or 5 seasons because every player 1-4 has at least an 80 open three.

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                      1.) You have to pick up the ball and pass - so you have to anticipate. Again, i dont understand how you have such a hard time getting space in a full court 3 v 3 game. My issue with park gameplay is too much space, not lack of. There is also a protect ball mechanic after rebounds. Try it out!

                      2.) lol you cant just say your own post was funny.

                      3.) im a 6'11" shot creating rim protector and i have fun in the park, whether im a wing or a big. And the park isnt supposed to be NBA gameplay, thats why guys have showtime dribble moves/dunks. Have you ever played pickup basketball? Some people are awful and take awful shots. There are always gonna be ball hogs, even more so online.

                      4.) youre 5 seasons into your mycareer already?? Jesus. (Theres a pretty simple workaround for this - play the games.)
                      I cant speak for those shooting percentages, but for me (2nd round of the playoffs 2018) they are far from unrealistic, just high (50/40) range. I still have a hard time understanding your complaint. You dominate, but youre mad the cpu makes shots because you should be dominating even more? Is that the gist of it?

                      Again, I have some issues with this game, but some of the stuff youre complaining about can be fixed just by playing with friends, using available in game mechanics, or is stuff that is just kind of to be expected and hasnt really been figured out in any sports game (imperfect rosters 5 years down the line. Of course!? Lol have you ever player mygm before?)

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                      • dsj914
                        Rookie
                        • Jul 2011
                        • 132

                        #12
                        Re: 2K Does Just Enough to Destroy MyCareer...

                        Originally posted by Yesh2k
                        OK, so anyone who knows a few of my posts will know that I've given 2k a rough time where I feel it's necessary, and I certainly have my issues with them again this year for some of their off-court antics, but the gameplay is good this year; it's not perfect by any stretch, but it's nowhere near what is written about in the OP.



                        The post play this year is better than it's ever been, and some of the moves you can chain together are fantastic:



                        <iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/_zD3H9sTNbA" frameborder="0" allow="autoplay; encrypted-media" allowfullscreen></iframe>



                        I don't know what you really want; I only play on HoF, and have no idea how you can play in the post on 5 min qtrs and get 70pts, for a start the double teams prevent this. I think I've hit 70 twice and I'm in late Feb.



                        You have to let the chemistry build too, I know it gets quickly to maxed out, but I'm pretty sure it's still improving beyond that as you progress through the year.



                        I think some dudes have been spoilt by the watering down of HoF difficulty from 2k16 onwards. Before that, HoF was always insane and super-cheesy, and this year still isn't anywhere near 2k14 level of craziness.


                        I’m referring to Post Play online. A 60 ovr can dominate the computer in the post. Pure stretches and even guards can block you after a drop step or up and under. And it’s well documented how terrible standing layups are in Park.

                        I’m not complaining about the competitiveness of HOF, it just gets old when the cpu hits EVERY open spot. My bigger issue is the poor roster quality.

                        As an FYI, you can call for an iso as a post player while you are in the post. They will still double but it will be too late. And it’s MYCAREER... I don’t care about my cpu teammates and chemistry lol


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                        • Yesh2kdone
                          Banned
                          • Feb 2015
                          • 1412

                          #13
                          Re: 2K Does Just Enough to Destroy MyCareer...

                          Originally posted by dsj914
                          I’m referring to Post Play online. A 60 ovr can dominate the computer in the post. Pure stretches and even guards can block you after a drop step or up and under. And it’s well documented how terrible standing layups are in Park.

                          I’m not complaining about the competitiveness of HOF, it just gets old when the cpu hits EVERY open spot. My bigger issue is the poor roster quality.

                          As an FYI, you can call for an iso as a post player while you are in the post. They will still double but it will be too late. And it’s MYCAREER... I don’t care about my cpu teammates and chemistry lol


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                          Probably best not to have too many feelings about a mode you don't care for?

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                          • dsj914
                            Rookie
                            • Jul 2011
                            • 132

                            #14
                            Re: 2K Does Just Enough to Destroy MyCareer...

                            Originally posted by GK_11
                            1.) You have to pick up the ball and pass - so you have to anticipate. Again, i dont understand how you have such a hard time getting space in a full court 3 v 3 game. My issue with park gameplay is too much space, not lack of. There is also a protect ball mechanic after rebounds. Try it out!



                            2.) lol you cant just say your own post was funny.



                            3.) im a 6'11" shot creating rim protector and i have fun in the park, whether im a wing or a big. And the park isnt supposed to be NBA gameplay, thats why guys have showtime dribble moves/dunks. Have you ever played pickup basketball? Some people are awful and take awful shots. There are always gonna be ball hogs, even more so online.



                            4.) youre 5 seasons into your mycareer already?? Jesus. (Theres a pretty simple workaround for this - play the games.)

                            I cant speak for those shooting percentages, but for me (2nd round of the playoffs 2018) they are far from unrealistic, just high (50/40) range. I still have a hard time understanding your complaint. You dominate, but youre mad the cpu makes shots because you should be dominating even more? Is that the gist of it?



                            Again, I have some issues with this game, but some of the stuff youre complaining about can be fixed just by playing with friends, using available in game mechanics, or is stuff that is just kind of to be expected and hasnt really been figured out in any sports game (imperfect rosters 5 years down the line. Of course!? Lol have you ever player mygm before?)


                            1) Outside of idiots who set screens while I post up, I’ve never talked about an issue with spacing in Park. However it is impossible to post up in Rec due to spacing so I don’t play it.

                            3) I didn’t complain about my teammates taking bad or all the shots, I have issues with guys going 10/10 on driving fadeaway mid ranges or half court fadeaway threes. And to answer your question, I was a D1 player, so yes I know basketball and have played.

                            4) Yes I learned the hard way to play a full season but I’m not gonna play for 800 VC a game when I can get 2K a game on a max contract. I don’t care to dominate on HOF. Personally I wish defense was 10X harder and they toned down the CPUs FG%

                            I would love to play a challenge game against other people, but 5 on 5 pickup is a joke, and 3 on 3 is filled with fadeaways and 7’3 centers. Seems like I’m in the minority of wanted a realistic challenge against others online, so 2K will continue to produce this type of gameplay because it appeals to the masses.

                            As I’ve stated before, all my opinions and observations. If it’s fun for you, that’s great. To me it’s poorly made again and they won’t get my money anymore. I took one class on programming in college and even I could write a code that says contested/moving shots attributes have to be within 20% of open shot attributes. Same could be said for speed and speed with ball. To me it’s only common sense that if you allow the guards listed above to be rewarded with poor shot selection, then their defense attributes should be capped if 30. If it’s gonna be arcade ball, then make it arcade all around, not just for the cheesers.

                            Not trying to be ‘Negative Nancy’ but (again in my opinion) people give 2K too much of a pass because there is no competition.


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                            • CBAT
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                              • Feb 2007
                              • 471

                              #15
                              Re: 2K Does Just Enough to Destroy MyCareer...

                              I still haven't gotten JRC to work. I've tried playing it on multiple occasions with a buddy and we will sit in the locker room with 3/5 teammates and the clock at 0:00 for an extended period of time (5-10 minutes) before quitting out.

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