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  • 49UNCFan
    MVP
    • Aug 2010
    • 2460

    #1

    All the constant whinning

    It's like a fad now, is it anything we can do to regulate the other important threads like make a complaint thread or something so I don't have to continue to read this crap. People need to understand this is a videogame and not real life
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  • ksuttonjr76
    All Star
    • Nov 2004
    • 8662

    #2
    Re: All the constant whinning

    I second this. I'm to the point where I'm going respond with "Then don't buy the game." or "Go get a PC and join a modding community”.

    I'm trying to get impressions of the videos to see what people are noticing from a gameplay perspective, and I keep reading the same things over and over, or it's the "Who cares?" comment. Somebody cares, and if you don't...don't comment in that thread.

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    • Junior Moe
      MVP
      • Jul 2009
      • 3851

      #3
      Re: All the constant whinning

      It's just how it is around here at this time. I'm very fond of saying don't buy the game. And thats not because criticism isn't warranted, it is. But if it's that big a deal to you that the game isn't perfect or that VC isn't going anywhere then save yourself the trouble. Some of these guys I'm convinced just want to complain for the hell of it.

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      • ForeverVersatile
        Pro
        • Jan 2011
        • 3489

        #4
        Re: All the constant whinning

        I think people have a right to complain or voice their opinions, but when you start going every thread saying the same thing over and over again that's where the line should be drawn.

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        • Vni
          Hall Of Fame
          • Sep 2011
          • 14831

          #5
          Re: All the constant whinning

          So you decided to add more whinning? =)

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          • VDusen04
            Hall Of Fame
            • Aug 2003
            • 13016

            #6
            Re: All the constant whinning

            Originally posted by ForeverVersatile
            I think people have a right to complain or voice their opinions, but when you start going every thread saying the same thing over and over again that's where the line should be drawn.

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            Right on. I also find there's a big difference between constructive or relevant criticism and people who play the "Who cares?" card.

            When a product is leading up to release, people will analyze the breadcrumbs, for better or worse. Oftentimes, the constructive criticisms, once they hit a critical mass, can provoke change or improvements.

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            • GisherJohn24
              MVP
              • Aug 2008
              • 4564

              #7
              Re: All the constant whinning

              Originally posted by 49UNCFan
              It's like a fad now, is it anything we can do to regulate the other important threads like make a complaint thread or something so I don't have to continue to read this crap. People need to understand this is a videogame and not real life
              People want to be amazed. 2K was, and probably still is considered the best sports game ever. The expectations are high every year, and in general, since probably 16, 2k's games have been disappointing. I can make a list, but we all know what needs improved and not to mention the VC controversy. I buy the game because I love basketball. I don't do much online, I play with friends and do my season and I"m happy. Last few years I've been disappointed with the presentation, poor atmopshere and the lack of love for the Legends/courts/teams and retro love they gave on the old games, are gone. But I continue to have hopes year after year they will surprise me with something new and fresh. IF their focus now is just to sell VC, one of these years, I won't buy at launch anymore. But every 2K game in existence has it's perks.

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              • MrWrestling3
                MVP
                • May 2015
                • 1146

                #8
                Re: All the constant whinning

                I preety much agree; I try to keep it as objective and "real" as I can.Like it or not, VC will always be around, Career will always be interconnected with Park and Pro/AM,etc. I believe the best approach is balance; finding ways that will allow for these features for those whom want to take advantage, without too badly disadvantaging those who chose not to do so.

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                • ksuttonjr76
                  All Star
                  • Nov 2004
                  • 8662

                  #9
                  Re: All the constant whinning

                  Originally posted by VDusen04
                  Right on. I also find there's a big difference between constructive or relevant criticism and people who play the "Who cares?" card.

                  When a product is leading up to release, people will analyze the breadcrumbs, for better or worse. Oftentimes, the constructive criticisms, once they hit a critical mass, can provoke change or improvements.
                  I agree. I don't mind constructive criticism if there's thought to it. They could drop a ProAm gamelay/trailer, and there would be probably be 8-15 comments about the lighting and player models.

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                  • WaddupCouzin
                    MVP
                    • Jul 2002
                    • 2366

                    #10
                    Re: All the constant whinning

                    If something brings you this much Angst every year, Why buy it? Holy Smokes. I guess it's age and Perspective, but man, you have some dudes in here, I'm like "why buy the game if you hate it that much" unlike football, there's other options.

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                    • MrWrestling3
                      MVP
                      • May 2015
                      • 1146

                      #11
                      Re: All the constant whinning

                      Originally posted by ksuttonjr76
                      I agree. I don't mind constructive criticism if there's thought to it. They could drop a ProAm gamelay/trailer, and there would be probably be 8-15 comments about the lighting and player models.
                      Yep, there is a difference between "Green releases are OP,get rid of them", which is purely a personal opinion; and "Green releases are a problem, they happen too often on heavily contested shots", which is a criticism paired with believable reasoning.

                      Originally posted by WaddupCouzin
                      If something brings you this much Angst every year, Why buy it? Holy Smokes. I guess it's age and Perspective, but man, you have some dudes in here, I'm like "why buy the game if you hate it that much" unlike football, there's other options.

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                      • The Gym Reaper
                        Rookie
                        • Jan 2017
                        • 438

                        #12
                        Re: All the constant whinning

                        Iono man.

                        I personally think the culture of this board is weird at times.

                        A lot of times when there is criticism against 2K there’s always a legion of people ready to shame and marginalize people for not liking something about the game.

                        It’s almost like they’re triggered that people aren’t praising the game all the time or finding flaws and it seems to be strongly “encouraged” that these people tone it down or shut up altogether.

                        People always getting sh*t on for talking about art and lighting by a contingent that doesn’t care about visuals - In their minds nobody else should care about cosmetics and you’re somehow stupid/petty for caring.

                        I see this pressure being applied all of the time when I lurk the forums and it seems like the suppression of thought in sometimes not so subtle ways.

                        I sometimes find myself mixing it up and going to the NBA 2K subreddit - seems like more freeflow of information, more diversity of discussion, less censorship, and nobody taking shots at you constantly for being passionate about niche topics or aspects of the game.
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                        • MrWrestling3
                          MVP
                          • May 2015
                          • 1146

                          #13
                          Re: All the constant whinning

                          Originally posted by The Gym Reaper
                          Iono man.

                          I personally think the culture of this board is weird at times.

                          A lot of times when there is criticism against 2K there’s always a legion of people ready to shame and marginalize people for not liking something about the game.

                          It’s almost like they’re triggered that people aren’t praising the game all the time or finding flaws and it seems to be strongly “encouraged” that these people tone it down or shut up altogether.

                          People always getting sh*t on for talking about art and lighting by a contingent that doesn’t care about visuals - In their minds nobody else should care about cosmetics and you’re somehow stupid/petty for caring.

                          I see this pressure being applied all of the time when I lurk the forums and it seems like the suppression of thought in sometimes not so subtle ways.

                          I sometimes find myself mixing it up and going to the NBA 2K subreddit - seems like more freeflow of information, more diversity of discussion, less censorship, and nobody taking shots at you constantly for being passionate about niche topics or aspects of the game.
                          You're right, it comes down to remembering to respect other's space and ideas, and the application of good old common sense.

                          If people want to make a thread and discuss art,or lighting,or game mechanics, or whatever for 10000 pages, they should be able to do so; just jumping in and trying to change or disparage the topic is poor form.

                          It can not be said enough that the world is full of individuals; what one man may not care at all about may be the most important thing there is for another man.Take a moment and put yourself in the other person's place before hitting the Post button.

                          If someone has a different idea or viewpoint, that's ok, as long as they make a good point in a discussive fashion,and not simply trolling.
                          Last edited by MrWrestling3; 08-23-2018, 02:38 PM.

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                          • The Gym Reaper
                            Rookie
                            • Jan 2017
                            • 438

                            #14
                            Re: All the constant whinning

                            There are people who are wrong on both sides.

                            If it keeps going like this though, this forum is going to go the way of the dinosaurs with a bunch of bitter old heads talking to themselves and scaring off everybody who doesn’t fit into their mold of what a 2K player/fan is.
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                            • WaddupCouzin
                              MVP
                              • Jul 2002
                              • 2366

                              #15
                              Re: All the constant whinning

                              Originally posted by The Gym Reaper
                              There are people who are wrong on both sides.

                              If it keeps going like this though, this forum is going to go the way of the dinosaurs with a bunch of bitter old heads talking to themselves and scaring off everybody who doesn’t fit into their mold of what a 2K player/fan is.
                              Quite the opposite, most threads are hijacked by the "Lighting isn't right" crowd. Plus, I've been on this board a long time (check my avatar), so I've seen the ebb and flow, but you better be glad these "Old heads" are on this board to create some balance.

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                              Last edited by The 24th Letter; 08-23-2018, 03:37 PM.
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