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  • atlwarya
    Rookie
    • Jun 2005
    • 331

    #1

    Should 2K just get rid of Shot Zones?

    It isn't like they use it anyway. They went the whole season without updating it at all. This should be a concern because it really effects the in-game stats. I think they should just get rid of it and let the tendencies dictate what spots the players shoot on the floor. Sonicmage has shown us what they are like if you actually put them to good use but since 2K themselves don't use it all, it doesn't make sense to keep shot zones in the game.
  • ph33
    MVP
    • Oct 2014
    • 3261

    #2
    Re: Should 2K just get rid of Shot Zones?

    Hot zones for real life players should be there. And they should be updated.

    Hot zones for our MyCareer player while playing online? Horrible idea.

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    • Caelumfang
      MVP
      • Oct 2012
      • 1218

      #3
      Re: Should 2K just get rid of Shot Zones?

      With them possibly getting rid of the 100% green release, hell yeah hot zones need to remain. Shooting will become FAR too much of a dice-roll if they get rid of them without having 100% perfect greens.

      Now if they KEEP 100% greens, then yes, get rid of the hot zones.

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      • ph33
        MVP
        • Oct 2014
        • 3261

        #4
        Re: Should 2K just get rid of Shot Zones?

        Originally posted by Caelumfang
        With them possibly getting rid of the 100% green release, hell yeah hot zones need to remain. Shooting will become FAR too much of a dice-roll if they get rid of them without having 100% perfect greens.

        Now if they KEEP 100% greens, then yes, get rid of the hot zones.
        Isn't that what shooting is to begin with? A dice roll? Just that some shots have a much higher chance of going in.

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        • Caelumfang
          MVP
          • Oct 2012
          • 1218

          #5
          Re: Should 2K just get rid of Shot Zones?

          Originally posted by ph33
          Isn't that what shooting is to begin with? A dice roll? Just that some shots have a much higher chance of going in.
          And that's a major problem. Example: If you take away hot zones and don't have 100% greens, a Shot Creator archetype will be at a severe disadvantage vs a Sharpshooter archetype, because the game is built to reward standing shots more than shots off the dribble. And even then, certain shots off the dribble fall more frequently than others. Without hot zones, things like this become even MORE apparent.

          Considering I've been losing more and more faith in their ability to produce fair and balanced shooting across the board, I feel that we need to have one (100% greens) or the other (hot zones). Otherwise shooting will become far too inconsistent.

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          • Vroman
            Pro
            • Aug 2014
            • 959

            #6
            Re: Should 2K just get rid of Shot Zones?

            Originally posted by Caelumfang
            And that's a major problem. Example: If you take away hot zones and don't have 100% greens, a Shot Creator archetype will be at a severe disadvantage vs a Sharpshooter archetype, because the game is built to reward standing shots more than shots off the dribble. And even then, certain shots off the dribble fall more frequently than others. Without hot zones, things like this become even MORE apparent.

            Considering I've been losing more and more faith in their ability to produce fair and balanced shooting across the board, I feel that we need to have one (100% greens) or the other (hot zones). Otherwise shooting will become far too inconsistent.
            2k16 had less frequent greens and even that wasnt 100% go in. As a result that game had MUCH more balanced shooting than 2k17 . Concept of making moving shots at better rate than spot up ones is wrong in the first place and sharp with shot creator should be somewhat merged (highest spot up + moving shot rating and moving shot rating is 0.xx multiplyer to standing ones) .

            If u can obtain 100% jumpshot success then there is no point for other type of the offense other than jumpshooting all game.
            Last edited by Vroman; 06-25-2017, 02:15 PM.

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            • Caelumfang
              MVP
              • Oct 2012
              • 1218

              #7
              Re: Should 2K just get rid of Shot Zones?

              Originally posted by Vroman
              2k16 had less frequent greens and even that wasnt 100% go in. As a result that game had MUCH more balanced shooting than 2k17 . Concept of making moving shots at better rate than spot up ones is wrong in the first place and sharp with shot creator should be somewhat merged (highest spot up + moving shot rating and moving shot rating is 0.xx multiplyer to standing ones) .

              If u can obtain 100% jumpshot success then there is no point for other type of the offense other than jumpshooting all game.
              And that's because 2k16 had hotspots to make up for not having 100% green releases. Which is exactly what I said.

              2k16 only suffered when it came to moving shots being guaranteed bricks after one of the shooting updates that remained permanent for the rest of the year, and the randomization of you being able to enter a game hot or cold, and you having to suffer (or benefit) from the consequences for the entire game.

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              • MoodMuzik
                Rookie
                • Jul 2013
                • 496

                #8
                Re: Should 2K just get rid of Shot Zones?

                #1 Green release should be SCARCE, and absolutely few and far between. No shot is a SURE thing, but for video game purposes, it should stay for the fun of hitting a green, HOWEVER, it should be the rarest of occurrences.

                #2 Hot Zones absolutely need to stay. Online AND Offline. If your character is cold from the left wing, and you cross over to the left wing and take a jumpshot, you basically did what the defender wanted you to do... and what YOU knew NOT to do. Ergo, you should hit less of those shots. Especially off-balance ones, because duh, you're off balance.

                #3, Shot Creater... is ridiculous cheese in a game. Everyone thinks they should be able to hit any off balance shot, uncontested or not that's just a tough shot to hit and should be as such. Shot creaters are typically mid to lower 45% shooters even with dunks and layups increasing their fg%.

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                • beastmode2013
                  Rookie
                  • Oct 2013
                  • 312

                  #9
                  Re: Should 2K just get rid of Shot Zones?

                  They shouldn't get rid of zones. Just Nerf them a bit. Same with the shot meter. There are literally created jump shots that are automatic greens. Hot zones IMO should only SLIGHTLY buff your shot meter
                  ⎛⎝DAWGS⎠⎞

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                  • timsmooth503pa
                    Pro
                    • Feb 2013
                    • 814

                    #10
                    Re: Should 2K just get rid of Shot Zones?

                    they shouldn't get rid of hot zones but a least update them i went thru every player and updated every hot zone and every shot location tendency to match the real life players this season and maybe 1% of those tendencies are correct i corrected all i would like everyone to check it and give me some feedback and see if we really need hot zones are do they just need them correctly updated

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                    • atlwarya
                      Rookie
                      • Jun 2005
                      • 331

                      #11
                      Re: Should 2K just get rid of Shot Zones?

                      Originally posted by timsmooth503pa
                      they shouldn't get rid of hot zones but a least update them i went thru every player and updated every hot zone and every shot location tendency to match the real life players this season and maybe 1% of those tendencies are correct i corrected all i would like everyone to check it and give me some feedback and see if we really need hot zones are do they just need them correctly updated
                      Never good when you have to rely on custom roster makers to do 2k's dirty work.

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                      • beastmode2013
                        Rookie
                        • Oct 2013
                        • 312

                        #12
                        Re: Should 2K just get rid of Shot Zones?

                        Originally posted by timsmooth503pa
                        they shouldn't get rid of hot zones but a least update them i went thru every player and updated every hot zone and every shot location tendency to match the real life players this season and maybe 1% of those tendencies are correct i corrected all i would like everyone to check it and give me some feedback and see if we really need hot zones are do they just need them correctly updated
                        Hey you should upload that roster
                        ⎛⎝DAWGS⎠⎞

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                        • awg811
                          Pro
                          • Jul 2009
                          • 768

                          #13
                          Re: Should 2K just get rid of Shot Zones?

                          Imo, hot zone should stay, but they should be earned in the mode that you're playing.
                          For instance, if you're playing pro am, your hot zones for mycareer should be meaningless, only what you do in pro am should matter.
                          It makes no sense to me to be able to go play mycareer on rookie and have every spot on the court in pro am be a hot spot.

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                          • young22
                            Banned
                            • Feb 2017
                            • 2089

                            #14
                            Re: Should 2K just get rid of Shot Zones?

                            Originally posted by awg811
                            Imo, hot zone should stay, but they should be earned in the mode that you're playing.
                            For instance, if you're playing pro am, your hot zones for mycareer should be meaningless, only what you do in pro am should matter.
                            It makes no sense to me to be able to go play mycareer on rookie and have every spot on the court in pro am be a hot spot.
                            Stuff like this is why mycareer and park need to be separated. Let badges be earned on the park. Give us back old myplayer mode.

                            Sent from my SM-G386W using Operation Sports mobile app

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                            • isdatyt
                              Pro
                              • Feb 2012
                              • 672

                              #15
                              Re: Should 2K just get rid of Shot Zones?

                              Players should only have hot zones in my opinion. The rating should be the base shooting stat. Let's say Kyrie has a 91 Open Shot Three. He should be at least 91 from every spot. His hot zones (I think you get +5 in hot zones) should bring him up to a 96 when shooting from that spot.

                              These do need to be updated throughout the year though. Honestly 2K is so lazy with them. Speaking of Kyrie he doesn't even have a hot zone in the spot he won the finals at? He literally attacks from that same spot every time he needs a clutch bucket. LeBron became the most prolific three point shooter in the playoffs last year, yet he still has several cold zones on the perimeter.

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