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  • jpdavis82
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    • Sep 2005
    • 8768

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    Madden NFL 18 Will Transition to the Frostbite Engine


    EA announced during today's Electronic Arts Q3 2017 earnings conference call, Madden NFL 18 will make its transition to the Frostbite engine. The same engine is used in FIFA 17, with plans to bring it to the NBA and NHL series within the next couple of years.

    Our Madden NFL franchise will transition to the Frostbite engine with Madden NFL 18, unlocking major visual advancements and new gameplay experiences that will excite dedicated Madden players, football fans, and sports fans overall.
  • Lexicon
    Pro
    • Mar 2011
    • 759

    #2
    Re: Madden 18 Frostbite confirmed on EA Shareholders Call today

    Have no clue what this means for the future of Madden, but hopefully it means bigger leaps from year to year. Engines are just tools, let's see how they use them...
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    • Datninja619
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      • Jul 2012
      • 1924

      #3
      Re: Madden 18 Frostbite confirmed on EA Shareholders Call today

      Will this reduce rage during coach challenges? On a serious note, can't wait to see I'll news starts coming out!

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      • DeuceDouglas
        Madden Dev Team
        • Apr 2010
        • 4297

        #4
        Re: Madden 18 Frostbite confirmed on EA Shareholders Call today

        Anybody that plays FIFA religiously that can say how much it changed that game outside of visually? Was it still all pretty much the same animations and such or did that completely change?

        I ask because if they're still going to be dealing heavily with the "legacy code" that has plagued things for the last ten years then this isn't going to make much of a difference. If it allows them to start fresh and build certain aspects from the ground up, namely OL play and the passing game, then it could be great.

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        • Lexicon
          Pro
          • Mar 2011
          • 759

          #5
          Re: Madden 18 Frostbite confirmed on EA Shareholders Call today

          Originally posted by DeuceDouglas
          Anybody that plays FIFA religiously that can say how much it changed that game outside of visually? Was it still all pretty much the same animations and such or did that completely change?

          I ask because if they're still going to be dealing heavily with the "legacy code" that has plagued things for the last ten years then this isn't going to make much of a difference. If it allows them to start fresh and build certain aspects from the ground up, namely OL play and the passing game, then it could be great.
          I don't play religiously. In fact this was the first year in a very long time that I've played FIFA, but it really didn't amazed me, graphically or animations/physics wise. Not bad, but nothing I could really point out and say "that can only happen with frostbite" like you can with Battlefield or whathaveyou. I have heard from an English friend of mine that he felt Frostbite helped the gameplay a lot and that it's tough to go back to 16, but I've also heard a lot of people say that they don't like how 17 plays, so yeah... lol
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          • jpdavis82
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            • Sep 2005
            • 8768

            #6
            Re: Madden 18 Frostbite confirmed on EA Shareholders Call today

            One of my good friends played 17 and said it plays/feels more like real soccer than 15 and 16 fwiw.


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            • JayD
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              • Mar 2004
              • 5457

              #7
              Re: Madden 18 Frostbite confirmed on EA Shareholders Call today

              Originally posted by jpdavis82
              One of my good friends played 17 and said it plays/feels more like real soccer than 15 and 16 fwiw.


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              It's been a while since FIFA has played like real soccer. Still waiting on that.

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              • ODogg
                Hall Of Fame
                • Feb 2003
                • 37960

                #8
                Re: Madden 18 Frostbite confirmed on EA Shareholders Call today

                Originally posted by JayD
                It's been a while since FIFA has played like real soccer. Still waiting on that.
                The last couple of FIFAs have been really, really realistic.
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                • DeuceDouglas
                  Madden Dev Team
                  • Apr 2010
                  • 4297

                  #9
                  Re: Madden 18 Frostbite confirmed on EA Shareholders Call today

                  Originally posted by Lexicon
                  I don't play religiously. In fact this was the first year in a very long time that I've played FIFA, but it really didn't amazed me, graphically or animations/physics wise. Not bad, but nothing I could really point out and say "that can only happen with frostbite" like you can with Battlefield or whathaveyou. I have heard from an English friend of mine that he felt Frostbite helped the gameplay a lot and that it's tough to go back to 16, but I've also heard a lot of people say that they don't like how 17 plays, so yeah... lol
                  Nice, that's good to hear. It'd be great if the transition really tightened things up and put a premium on player movement in regard to acceleration, deceleration, foot planting, etc. I'd love to see E3 or EAPlay videos this year that don't have people dropping 350-pound lineman into coverage like safeties.

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                  • BizDevConglomerate
                    Banned
                    • Apr 2012
                    • 284

                    #10
                    Re: Madden 18 Frostbite confirmed on EA Shareholders Call today

                    Originally posted by Lexicon
                    I don't play religiously. In fact this was the first year in a very long time that I've played FIFA, but it really didn't amazed me, graphically or animations/physics wise. Not bad, but nothing I could really point out and say "that can only happen with frostbite" like you can with Battlefield or whathaveyou. I have heard from an English friend of mine that he felt Frostbite helped the gameplay a lot and that it's tough to go back to 16, but I've also heard a lot of people say that they don't like how 17 plays, so yeah... lol
                    So, with that said, Madden will definitely benefit from a new engine. I played the hell out of FIFA when it first released. I played the last two heavy. It's just more enjoyable than all other games and I hated soccer growing up. Frostbite changed some aspects in movement physics. It's little, but you have to play it and be into it to notice. The look is pretty much the same playing because the camera view is set far. I think they have to work on a way to have the players close still able to see the entire pitch.

                    But pondering at this year's Madden and how frostbite will affect it, is almost a most certainly it will. IF IT means they scrap the old gameplay and spend time implementing all new on frostbite. It's gotta fix movement. It's very possible in real life to have your jersey pulled and you not fall, that happens in FIFA. That will be huge to see in wr/cb interaction, oline/dline, rb's going through the holes and even QB sacks. End to all suction tackle's. Period. We need to be able to size a play up and crush him, there should be no predetermined tackles. No automatic running out of bounds.

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                    • Lexicon
                      Pro
                      • Mar 2011
                      • 759

                      #11
                      Re: Madden 18 Frostbite confirmed on EA Shareholders Call today

                      Honestly, I think a safe expectation of frostbite for Madden based off of FIFA would be that it will get better lighting, motion blur, and other visual asthetics. Other than that, anything else would be a pretty wild guess at this point. We should be getting some news in the next few months. I'm also contemplating going to EA play this year, since my family will be going to Universal Studios a lot this year and EA play would be right down the road. Would be nice to get hands-on time with Madden Frostbite.
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                      • ch46647
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                        • Aug 2006
                        • 3510

                        #12
                        Will the locomotion engine finally be overhauled? I believe FIFA has some of the best running animations/locomotion features of any sports game.

                        I gave up on Madden a few years ago because I just could not stand how players moved. They have made strides in many areas but the locomotion engine is basically exactly how it was in Madden 06 (when this series truly lost its way). Maybe this is the year they finally address this part of the game...

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                        • Crunky
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                          • May 2009
                          • 1170

                          #13
                          Re: Madden NFL 18 Will Transition to the Frostbite Engine

                          I'm not feeling Fifa graphics though they seemed cartoony but cinematics in story mode looked good.

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                          • JKSportsGamer1984
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                            • May 2014
                            • 1388

                            #14
                            Hopefully the Frostbite engine will bring us true Living Worlds that were initially advertised with the transition to this gen. No more generic sideline player models with no names on jerseys & same facemask for every player, add chearleaders, mascots, etc... I'm curious to see what this will do for impoving player movement, physics (player clipping), cloth physics (grabbing jerseys, etc..) Don't let us down EA.

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                            • DeuceDouglas
                              Madden Dev Team
                              • Apr 2010
                              • 4297

                              #15
                              Re: Madden 18 Frostbite confirmed on EA Shareholders Call today

                              Originally posted by Lexicon
                              Honestly, I think a safe expectation of frostbite for Madden based off of FIFA would be that will get better lighting, motion blur, and other visual asthetics. Other than that, anything else would be a pretty wild guess at this point. We should be getting some news in the next few months. I'm also contemplating going to be a play this year, since my family will be going to Universal Studios a lot this year and EA play would be right down the road. Would be nice to get hands-on time with Madden Frostbite.
                              I agree and this is the feeling I'm leaning towards initially. I think visuals and lighting will be the most noticeable changes especially if a new weather system came along with it. An upgraded atmosphere would also be something that would make sense with this transition. Any gameplay changes at this point is just kind of guessing. It'll be interesting to see how they first talk about it though and how they handle releasing things because I think that will give us a good idea of how much of a difference it has made gameplay wise. But I'd imagine we won't get much of anything whether it be screenshots or video wise at all leading up to EAplay or however they're doing things this year.

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