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  • aspeheat
    Rookie
    • Feb 2015
    • 184

    #1

    ProAm AI needs to be nerfed or disabled

    2K needs to do something about ProAm bots, as it's getting too annoying to play against them.

    First of all, I believe that for ProAm mode you should have 5 players, and not only 3. Have fewer than 5? Play Walk-on! However, 2K decided that we can have 2 bots, but they are way overpowered.

    The biggest problem is sloppy rebounding, I believe. There are so many misses that cannot be grabbed by a human player as a player simply refuses to grab the ball. If bot is there, he will pick it up everytime! As a human player, you will just be an inch away from the ball and refuse to pick it up, no matter what you do. The center on my team is a 7'1" glass cleaner and although he is a beast on the glass against human players, he will often lose the rebounding battle against the bot, even though he is in a better position to grab it.

    They are also incredibly good at intercepting passes! If you try to make a deep pass to the person that's guarded by a bot, it will most likely end up in a turnover. They just have incredible reaction time and will intercept it without breaking a sweat. Just earlier today, slasher on my team who plays mostly off cuts, was held to 6 points because he had a bot on him. We tried to pass it to him and stick to our gameplan, but we ended up ignoring him on the offense as he had a bot on him. We won the game, but I doubt it was fun for him.

    Besides incredible reaction time, you will have bots who are slashers and who make 3-point shots. Their rating is probably higher than 55, but it's still ridiculous.

    There are some teams who play with ProAm AI on purpose for these things, and I believe that it should be fixed. There is no way that bots should have such an impeccable reaction time and that teams benefit from it. If anything, teams should be penalized for not having 5 players, not rewarded.

    Bots are supposedly 55, but they don't play like 55 overall players. Even if they are 70 (like last year), they play way better. The worst thing is that they are able to do things that human players are not.
  • Pappy Knuckles
    LORDTHUNDERBIRD
    • Sep 2004
    • 15966

    #2
    Re: ProAm AI needs to be nerfed or disabled

    Everyone once in a while you'll get an AI who plays decent, but they're usually nothing special. They pick off passes pretty well, but that's easily avoidable. The last thing they need is a nerf. Playing against a full team when you have AI teammates is never preferable.

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    • Bornindamecca
      Books Nelson Simnation
      • Jul 2007
      • 10919

      #3
      Re: ProAm AI needs to be nerfed or disabled

      I agree with Pappy overall. Having 5 vs a team with AI is to the advantage of the human team, big time.

      That having been said, I understand the complaint. The AI this year is largely ungoverned by ratings and has access to several game mechanics that the user doesn't have. The AI doesn't have the same recovery rules that we have.

      Good players know how to beat this, but that's not the point, really. The AI is based on cheats much more so than decision making and across all skill levels, that's no fun to play with/against.
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      • Inzombniac
        Rookie
        • Jan 2013
        • 366

        #4
        Re: ProAm AI needs to be nerfed or disabled

        I say this as constructive criticism to what you're suggesting and will say that you gotta realize what you're up against. If you keep feeding the ball to someone with a CPU because it's your gameplan and trying to get them shots, then you're going about it wrong. It's like real life NBA, you have to gameplan around what you're up against and the best teams make adjustments.

        I've been up against CPU Players as a C and they aren't a joke in terms of defense and passing lanes. They can also rebound at a decent rate depending on your size and build. Is it fun to only get 1 or 2 shots a game (that happened to me)? Not really but that's when you get involved and do all the other things for your team depending on the role.

        You really just have to be careful and the slasher has to play within keeping his man out of the paint because if the AI defender is anywhere nearby, he'll pick it off. Playing Walk On is a nice idea in theory to make things even but if you're ever played Walk On, you'll understand that your chances are better with 55 AI players than 90 rated ball hogs.

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        • 19LloydBanks82
          Banned
          • Aug 2013
          • 610

          #5
          Re: ProAm AI needs to be nerfed or disabled

          The cpu absolutely sucks. The only thing theyre good at is intercepting lead passes.

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          • Pappy Knuckles
            LORDTHUNDERBIRD
            • Sep 2004
            • 15966

            #6
            Re: ProAm AI needs to be nerfed or disabled

            I had a game with KodiiRockets where our AI would not shoot the open 3 pointer no matter what. It was the most infuriating thing because we were actively trying to get him involved. Then you have games where they want to take every single idiotic shot that they can. It is what it is, I guess.

            As a big, I will say that they can stick to you like glue on defense. It can be hard to get away from them at times. That being said, they seem to leave shooters open a lot and help when it's not necessary. It's weird stuff. I'm not a fan of the AI in general in Pro-Am, but the last thing they are is overpowered.
            Last edited by Pappy Knuckles; 10-02-2016, 04:44 AM.

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            • laoala
              Banned
              • Sep 2016
              • 280

              #7
              Re: ProAm AI needs to be nerfed or disabled

              AI's are confirmed to have 9000 boxout stat.

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              • TrueHoliday
                Rookie
                • Apr 2016
                • 158

                #8
                Re: ProAm AI needs to be nerfed or disabled

                I wish I was as skilled as a 55 overall CPU power forward or center, they are ridiculous.

                Outside CPU's are pretty bad because the whole game is pretty bad when it comes to CPU AI on perimeter. They get lost in pointless rotations and casually leave their sharpshooter open while on offense they love to crowd the paint and make a log jam.

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                • jyoung
                  Hall Of Fame
                  • Dec 2006
                  • 11132

                  #9
                  Re: ProAm AI needs to be nerfed or disabled

                  Pro Am just needs to have the same matchmaking filters that NHL and FIFA have had for years now in their online team play modes.

                  In those modes, one of the pregame search parameters is whether or not you want the matchmaking system to pair you up with a team who has the same number of human players as yours.

                  This is a feature that Pro Am should have launched with, and absolutely should have had in year two of its existence.

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                  • aspeheat
                    Rookie
                    • Feb 2015
                    • 184

                    #10
                    Re: ProAm AI needs to be nerfed or disabled

                    Originally posted by jyoung
                    Pro Am just needs to have the same matchmaking filters that NHL and FIFA have had for years now in their online team play modes.

                    In those modes, one of the pregame search parameters is whether or not you want the matchmaking system to pair you up with a team who has the same number of human players as yours.

                    This is a feature that Pro Am should have launched with, and absolutely should have had in year two of its existence.
                    This would be PERFECT! Too bad that 2K's matchmaking system is complete garbage.

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                    • SolidSquid
                      MVP
                      • Aug 2014
                      • 3159

                      #11
                      Re: ProAm AI needs to be nerfed or disabled

                      Originally posted by Inzombniac
                      I say this as constructive criticism to what you're suggesting and will say that you gotta realize what you're up against. If you keep feeding the ball to someone with a CPU because it's your gameplan and trying to get them shots, then you're going about it wrong. It's like real life NBA, you have to gameplan around what you're up against and the best teams make adjustments.

                      I've been up against CPU Players as a C and they aren't a joke in terms of defense and passing lanes. They can also rebound at a decent rate depending on your size and build. Is it fun to only get 1 or 2 shots a game (that happened to me)? Not really but that's when you get involved and do all the other things for your team depending on the role.

                      You really just have to be careful and the slasher has to play within keeping his man out of the paint because if the AI defender is anywhere nearby, he'll pick it off. Playing Walk On is a nice idea in theory to make things even but if you're ever played Walk On, you'll understand that your chances are better with 55 AI players than 90 rated ball hogs.
                      I play walk on and had a 5 on 5 yesterday. My team was down 17-2 2 minutes in just bc of ball hogs/ chuckers. 3 people on my team ended up quitting and the game became much more competitive. It so annoying when people try to play pro am like park.

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                      • Rockie_Fresh88
                        Lockdown Defender
                        • Oct 2011
                        • 9621

                        #12
                        Re: ProAm AI needs to be nerfed or disabled

                        They aren't that good but their reaction time and box outs are ridiculous. Also they travel a lot when driving to the basket . They don't dribble just take two steps toward the basket out of a triple threat smh
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                        • JUSTlFIED
                          Rookie
                          • Dec 2014
                          • 369

                          #13
                          Re: ProAm AI needs to be nerfed or disabled

                          guard CPUs are not that bad, but the PF, and C cpu are OP. Its mostly due to them being in the paint near you. With Super boxout skills, laser guided intercepting hands, and incredible recovery time
                          Last edited by JUSTlFIED; 10-02-2016, 10:04 AM.

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