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  • nyccc
    Rookie
    • Jul 2011
    • 121

    #1

    NBA Players Equivalent to Archetypes

    Thought Id give this a shot but judging by the archetypes what player EXACTLY follows the mold of the archetypes?

    Make it simpler the boosts from the vitals such as wingspan and weight are a difference but not THAT major.

    So here it goes what player exactly fits the archetype?

    Playmaker PG - Deron Williams (early Nets)

    I didnt go with chris paul, conley, teague etc because they have better defense and get more steals than the ratings provided. The default open shot three rating for this build is in the mid 70s. Deron wasn't the most athletic guy, or a completely elite scorer consistently. Deron does provide elite passing and snapped peoples ankles consistently I'd say this is more of Deron when he first arrived in Brooklyn.

    Lockdown Defender SG - Tony Allen

    This one is obvious an elite defender that cannot shoot.

    Stretch Big PF - Mirza Teletovic
    One of the most underrated shooters in the league. Excelled in the pick n' pop game last season in Phoenix. Stretch Big build in this game has below average rebounding and athleticism. Mirza is perfect description for this position.

    Sharpshooter - Danny Green(Not from Last Season but the 2014 Finals)

    I gave him the nod over Korver/Redick because he plays better defense than him. The defense cap here is 14 or 15? Which is very slightly above average. I personally think Danny Green is overrated as a defender. He is more of a good defender because of Pop's scheme and his lanky arms are effective. He isn't the most athletic guy. is Can hit any wide open shot. Great at knocking down shots off screens or off a catch n' shoot. But can't finish at the rim that well or shoot of the dribble.

    Lockdown Defender C - Dikembe Mutombo(Maybe Theo Ratliff lol)

    Tough one here. Dikembe wasn't as agile as Big Ben but its arguable that he was a better shotblocker than him. If it was possible to recreate Ben Wallace as a build his rebounding should be maxed out. Both known for defense and not the greatest offensive players.

    Glass Cleaner C - Andre Drummond

    I think Drummond is more dominants a rebounder than a defender. Good at finishing at the rim and very athletic. Very Strong but not that agile

    Post Scorer - C Al Jefferson/PF Elton Brand(Clippers)

    Both were great with their back to the basket. Were above average in rebounding and defense. Mid Range goes down here and there.

    Its late over here. But thought this thread would be interesting to discuss. I will update later with responses from you guys on what I deem fits.(If I disagree, Ill definitely explain why.)

    Stay on Topic.

    Stay away from barking at each other like "why one build is better blah blah" or "I'm going to destroy your build in ProAm/Park". Its easy to get off-topic when talking about this.

    Prevent responses such as, "Steph Curry is a Sharpshooter PG" Curry has elite handles and can shoot off the dribble. Superstars shouldn't be mentioned here.

    2k hating. Hating that 2k should of improved this build or they need to patch x build.

    Also I think this will be easier to explain/give advice to players unfamiliar with MyCareer and creating a player. Remember guys try to be exact! 25 capped usually means 94 rating in a category. If 2k uses the hall of fame scale(Historic Players are welcomed!) as guideline to ratings that means they are the best of the best!
    Last edited by nyccc; 09-12-2016, 03:04 AM.
  • wrestlinggod1
    MVP
    • Jan 2008
    • 2490

    #2
    Re: NBA Players Equivalent to Archetypes

    With the archetypes given in 2k17, where do you believe Draymond Green would fit? I play a similar game to him and would like to create a player that's similar. I chose stretch big, but I think that was a mistake.
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    • basketballer0385
      Pro
      • Feb 2011
      • 528

      #3
      Re: NBA Players Equivalent to Archetypes

      Originally posted by wrestlinggod1
      With the archetypes given in 2k17, where do you believe Draymond Green would fit? I play a similar game to him and would like to create a player that's similar. I chose stretch big, but I think that was a mistake.
      My opinion I'd make him a lock down defender he can guard 1-4 just my opinion like I said

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      • abuC
        Banned
        • Oct 2003
        • 1123

        #4
        Re: NBA Players Equivalent to Archetypes

        Originally posted by wrestlinggod1
        With the archetypes given in 2k17, where do you believe Draymond Green would fit? I play a similar game to him and would like to create a player that's similar. I chose stretch big, but I think that was a mistake.
        They don't have a Draymond equivalent. Only way to get close to him is to pick Stretch big, athletic finisher or lockdown defender and make him 6'7 to maximize speed & agility.

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        • basketballer0385
          Pro
          • Feb 2011
          • 528

          #5
          Re: NBA Players Equivalent to Archetypes

          Originally posted by abuC
          They don't have a Draymond equivalent. Only way to get close to him is to pick Stretch big, athletic finisher or lockdown defender and make him 6'7 to maximize speed & agility.
          I'd say they don't have superstar archetypes, you don't have a steph curry type, draymond green, LeBron James, or a Kevin Durant type in my opinion

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          • wrestlinggod1
            MVP
            • Jan 2008
            • 2490

            #6
            Re: NBA Players Equivalent to Archetypes

            Slasher SG - Tyler Johnson
            Tyler is super athletic and is known for his dunking.
            Lockdown Defender SF - Justice Winslow
            Great defender with an offense that needs to be developed.
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            • nyccc
              Rookie
              • Jul 2011
              • 121

              #7
              Re: NBA Players Equivalent to Archetypes

              Originally posted by wrestlinggod1
              With the archetypes given in 2k17, where do you believe Draymond Green would fit? I play a similar game to him and would like to create a player that's similar. I chose stretch big, but I think that was a mistake.
              Draymond Green I don't believe is possible.

              His versatility is great.

              He can't be the following-

              Lockdown Defender (SF) because he can knock down threes and is a good playmaker at his position. He also isn't fast enough to be in this category. He's strong but not that strongest guy in the league or his position.

              Point Forward (SF) - He isn't that great at handling the ball. You don't see him snapping peoples ankles and his defense is better than what is given for a Point Forward.

              Tough one here. This is why 2k implemented this system. To make a tough decision on players and make players play as a cohesive team balancing each other out. 2k15/2k16 was all about hero ball. This system eliminates it.

              It also really depends on your stick skills.

              Last year I made an outside Center with 0 playmaking but I was still crossing kids from baseline to baseline because I knew when they would get steal happy and try to rip the ball the second I had it but I timed it perfectly most of the time and the missed the swipe. I had 0 inside scoring but high athlteticism. But through my midrange hitting and spacing of my team. I would blow by centers with no help at the rim because everyone else was a knockdown shooter. We ran corner offense with two bigs on the elbows. I got assists by timing my passes in the halfcourt to backdoor cutters or people open from helping on the pick n' pop
              Last edited by nyccc; 09-12-2016, 02:49 AM.

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              • nyccc
                Rookie
                • Jul 2011
                • 121

                #8
                Re: NBA Players Equivalent to Archetypes

                Originally posted by wrestlinggod1
                Slasher SG - Tyler Johnson
                Tyler is super athletic and is known for his dunking.
                Lockdown Defender SF - Justice Winslow
                Great defender with an offense that needs to be developed.
                Not sure about Tyler Johnson but I haven't seen him play that much. I like the Winslow comparison definitely putting him in consideration in the first post.

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                • NowAndLaterCARZ
                  Rookie
                  • Jun 2011
                  • 196

                  #9
                  Re: NBA Players Equivalent to Archetypes

                  Originally posted by basketballer0385
                  I'd say they don't have superstar archetypes, you don't have a steph curry type, draymond green, LeBron James, or a Kevin Durant type in my opinion

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                  out of the 4 stars you named (can't call dray a superstar yet imo), i think steph would be the closest 1 you can imitate with archetypes. make a 6ft2-6ft3 sharpshooter pg with max agility and playmaking, also make him lightweight as possible and give him the shortest wingspan. he would have around 84-85 speed and 94 3pt. As far as lebron and KD you could probably only make rookie versions of them. Young lebron maybe a slasher and young KD shot creator. dray would be tough to create

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                  • basketballer0385
                    Pro
                    • Feb 2011
                    • 528

                    #10
                    Re: NBA Players Equivalent to Archetypes

                    Originally posted by NowAndLaterCARZ
                    out of the 4 stars you named (can't call dray a superstar yet imo), i think steph would be the closest 1 you can imitate with archetypes. make a 6ft2-6ft3 sharpshooter pg with max agility and playmaking, also make him lightweight as possible and give him the shortest wingspan. he would have around 84-85 speed and 94 3pt. As far as lebron and KD you could probably only make rookie versions of them. Young lebron maybe a slasher and young KD shot creator. dray would be tough to create
                    Yea but you wouldn't be able to get stephs dribble how many ankles has he broke or shoot off the dribble that was why I said you couldn't. And you're right about draymond just saying people I didn't think can be reached created

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                    • nyk_fatboy
                      Pro
                      • Dec 2013
                      • 708

                      #11
                      Re: NBA Players Equivalent to Archetypes

                      Pointguard

                      Playmakers
                      -Rajon Rondo
                      -Ricky Rubio

                      Shot creators
                      -Kemba Walker
                      -Kyrie Irving

                      Lockdown Defender
                      -Patrick Beverly
                      -Avery Bradley

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                      • nyccc
                        Rookie
                        • Jul 2011
                        • 121

                        #12
                        Re: NBA Players Equivalent to Archetypes

                        Originally posted by nyk_fatboy
                        Pointguard

                        Playmakers
                        -Rajon Rondo
                        -Ricky Rubio

                        Shot creators
                        -Kemba Walker
                        -Kyrie Irving

                        Lockdown Defender
                        -Patrick Beverly
                        -Avery Bradley
                        Rondo has elite defense. Rubio may be the better option.

                        Kemba and Kyrie are above average three point shooters.

                        Bradley and Beverly can both knock down the three ball.

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                        • TheFinalEvent97
                          MVP
                          • Jul 2016
                          • 1519

                          #13
                          Re: NBA Players Equivalent to Archetypes

                          Isnt Avery Bradley a Shooting Guard?

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                          • Hopsin
                            Pro
                            • Jul 2012
                            • 753

                            #14
                            Re: NBA Players Equivalent to Archetypes

                            One thing a lot of people forget to mention is the users skill/IQ. I could easily make a Kyrie type shot creator. He's literally who I think about when making this build. Sure his 3 pt shot isn't high 80s, but you make up for that with high shot off dribble. (Which Kyrie does a lot of.)
                            The misconception of "so and so" can do this better is silly.
                            My 6'3 pg last year had like 78 driving layup, but that didn't mean I couldn't finish like say a Westbrook or prime Rose..


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                            • jk31
                              MVP
                              • Sep 2014
                              • 2651

                              #15
                              Re: NBA Players Equivalent to Archetypes

                              Originally posted by nyk_fatboy
                              Pointguard
                              Lockdown Defender
                              -Patrick Beverly
                              -Avery Bradley
                              Nah...Beverley and Bradley are both able to shoot the ball. Lockdown Defender PG can reach a maximum of 60 3pt rating... That's not anywhere near the level of both players.

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