Starting Point Guard Ratings
With NBA 2K17 just over the horizon, I've decided to dust myself off and offer my take on the state of NBA 2K's player ratings.
About a year and a half ago, I fell out of not just the roster scene but video games altogether. I took a job that prevented me from watching basketball anywhere near as much as I'd like to. When I wasn't working, I found myself out of the house, spending my days and nights playing Magic: The Gathering in various card/comic shops across NYC. Almost overnight, I found myself more and more removed from the game of basketball, a sport I loved and followed for 20 years.
I also found my presence in the community to be mostly unnecessary. Mike Stauffer took the NBA 2K roster editing position I had been angling/pining for the better part of a decade, and he didn't look back. He's done of a heck of a job making the need for my voice largely irrelevant. The 2K rosters are significantly cleaner and there is a clear ideology set in place. The rosters aren't perfect (they never will be irrespective of who is in charge), but the various nitpicks are mostly due to a lack of time/labor hours given what 2K Sports is asking of him.
In a lot of respects, I have a unique take on the roster process. Some have called me the grandfather of roster editing. I'm the original NBA 2K roster editor, and it took years for anyone to get up to my level. I sold my roster files on memory cards to make a buck in college - there are very few people who can say they pulled a profit from this particular hobby. My historical and technical knowledge of 2K's rating/attribute history over the last 15 years is unparalleled by any amateur, and there are people who started tinkering with this game long after I did who now have jobs within the company. It's not all roses though - while I've been doing this longer than anyone else, my editing process is largely outdated and I'm too stubborn to learn the modern editing tools that might make my life easier (and actually produce a roster file). Just like Grandpa, except 40 years younger.
Overall, I'm largely content to let others get their time in the limelight. The torch passed a few years ago and I have no desire to take it back. I have fond memories of the people I met and the opportunities I generated from just sitting in front of a computer screen, forgetting about my day-to-day life, and just focusing in-depth on basketball... So much so, that having found some free-time, I decided to give it a go, for old-time's sake. For the younger generation, this is what Vintage Rashidi was all about.
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I edited the ratings for all 30 projected starting point guards for the 2016-17 season. The listed difference is from the final NBA 2K16 roster. They will be sorted by Overall in this checklist's order.
Questions about attribute decisions are welcome, and I will do my best to explain the reasoning. There are certainly some that may not make sense but do have statistical basis (for example, a player's defensive effectiveness can vary from year-to-year based on a number of factors). As usual, I use 2K's own formulas and scales wherever possible, and am extremely limited in my bias thanks to the cold, hard nature of numbers.
Collectively, these 30 players dropped 37 points in Overall rating. This is mainly due to the 2K formula weighting "Draw Foul" too heavily. Most PGs are simply rated too highly here.
1-10
92 (NC) Chris Paul (LAC): All-Around Superstar
91 (-5) Stephen Curry (GSW): Offensive Superstar
91 (-4) Russell Westbrook (OKC): Offensive Superstar
87 (+1) Kyle Lowry (TOR): All-Around Superstar
87 (-2) John Wall (WAS): Offensive Superstar
86 (-3) Damian Lillard (POR): Athletic Playmaker
85 (-1) Eric Bledsoe (PHX): All-Around Star
83 (-3) Isaiah Thomas (BOS): Playmaker
83 (-1) Kemba Walker (CHA): All-Around Point Guard
83 (NC) Reggie Jackson (DET): Offensive-Minded Point
11-20
83 (-5) Kyrie Irving (CLE): Scoring Machine
82 (-1) Mike Conley (MEM): All-Around Point Guard
81 (+2) Ricky Rubio (MIN): Crafty Playmaker
81 (+1) Darren Collison (SAC): Sharpshooter
80 (-2) Jrue Holiday (NOP): Playmaker
80 (-3) Rajon Rondo (CHI): All-Around Star
80 (+1) Tony Parker (SAS): Scoring Machine
79 (NC) Jeff Teague (IND): All-Around Point Guard
79 (-1) Goran Dragic (MIA): Crafty Finisher
79 (NC) Dennis Schroder (ATL): All-Around Point Guard
21-30
78 (NC) Deron Williams (DAL): All-Around Point Guard
77 (+1) Michael Carter-Williams (MIL): Crafty All-Around Point
77 (+1) George Hill (UTA): All-Around Point Guard
75 (-5) Derrick Rose (CHI): Offensive-Minded Point
75 (NC) Elfrid Payton (ORL): All-Around Point Guard
75 (-1) Jeremy Lin (BKN): All-Around Point Guard
75 (-1) Patrick Beverley (HOU): All-Around Point Guard
74 (-1) Emmanuel Mudiay (DEN): Pass-First Point
73 (-4) D'Angelo Russell (LAL): Offensive-Minded Point
73 (-1) Jerryd Bayless (PHI): Reliable Playmaker
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Attributes etc after the jump. Have fun guys
With NBA 2K17 just over the horizon, I've decided to dust myself off and offer my take on the state of NBA 2K's player ratings.
About a year and a half ago, I fell out of not just the roster scene but video games altogether. I took a job that prevented me from watching basketball anywhere near as much as I'd like to. When I wasn't working, I found myself out of the house, spending my days and nights playing Magic: The Gathering in various card/comic shops across NYC. Almost overnight, I found myself more and more removed from the game of basketball, a sport I loved and followed for 20 years.
I also found my presence in the community to be mostly unnecessary. Mike Stauffer took the NBA 2K roster editing position I had been angling/pining for the better part of a decade, and he didn't look back. He's done of a heck of a job making the need for my voice largely irrelevant. The 2K rosters are significantly cleaner and there is a clear ideology set in place. The rosters aren't perfect (they never will be irrespective of who is in charge), but the various nitpicks are mostly due to a lack of time/labor hours given what 2K Sports is asking of him.
In a lot of respects, I have a unique take on the roster process. Some have called me the grandfather of roster editing. I'm the original NBA 2K roster editor, and it took years for anyone to get up to my level. I sold my roster files on memory cards to make a buck in college - there are very few people who can say they pulled a profit from this particular hobby. My historical and technical knowledge of 2K's rating/attribute history over the last 15 years is unparalleled by any amateur, and there are people who started tinkering with this game long after I did who now have jobs within the company. It's not all roses though - while I've been doing this longer than anyone else, my editing process is largely outdated and I'm too stubborn to learn the modern editing tools that might make my life easier (and actually produce a roster file). Just like Grandpa, except 40 years younger.
Overall, I'm largely content to let others get their time in the limelight. The torch passed a few years ago and I have no desire to take it back. I have fond memories of the people I met and the opportunities I generated from just sitting in front of a computer screen, forgetting about my day-to-day life, and just focusing in-depth on basketball... So much so, that having found some free-time, I decided to give it a go, for old-time's sake. For the younger generation, this is what Vintage Rashidi was all about.
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I edited the ratings for all 30 projected starting point guards for the 2016-17 season. The listed difference is from the final NBA 2K16 roster. They will be sorted by Overall in this checklist's order.
Questions about attribute decisions are welcome, and I will do my best to explain the reasoning. There are certainly some that may not make sense but do have statistical basis (for example, a player's defensive effectiveness can vary from year-to-year based on a number of factors). As usual, I use 2K's own formulas and scales wherever possible, and am extremely limited in my bias thanks to the cold, hard nature of numbers.
Collectively, these 30 players dropped 37 points in Overall rating. This is mainly due to the 2K formula weighting "Draw Foul" too heavily. Most PGs are simply rated too highly here.
1-10
92 (NC) Chris Paul (LAC): All-Around Superstar
91 (-5) Stephen Curry (GSW): Offensive Superstar
91 (-4) Russell Westbrook (OKC): Offensive Superstar
87 (+1) Kyle Lowry (TOR): All-Around Superstar
87 (-2) John Wall (WAS): Offensive Superstar
86 (-3) Damian Lillard (POR): Athletic Playmaker
85 (-1) Eric Bledsoe (PHX): All-Around Star
83 (-3) Isaiah Thomas (BOS): Playmaker
83 (-1) Kemba Walker (CHA): All-Around Point Guard
83 (NC) Reggie Jackson (DET): Offensive-Minded Point
11-20
83 (-5) Kyrie Irving (CLE): Scoring Machine
82 (-1) Mike Conley (MEM): All-Around Point Guard
81 (+2) Ricky Rubio (MIN): Crafty Playmaker
81 (+1) Darren Collison (SAC): Sharpshooter
80 (-2) Jrue Holiday (NOP): Playmaker
80 (-3) Rajon Rondo (CHI): All-Around Star
80 (+1) Tony Parker (SAS): Scoring Machine
79 (NC) Jeff Teague (IND): All-Around Point Guard
79 (-1) Goran Dragic (MIA): Crafty Finisher
79 (NC) Dennis Schroder (ATL): All-Around Point Guard
21-30
78 (NC) Deron Williams (DAL): All-Around Point Guard
77 (+1) Michael Carter-Williams (MIL): Crafty All-Around Point
77 (+1) George Hill (UTA): All-Around Point Guard
75 (-5) Derrick Rose (CHI): Offensive-Minded Point
75 (NC) Elfrid Payton (ORL): All-Around Point Guard
75 (-1) Jeremy Lin (BKN): All-Around Point Guard
75 (-1) Patrick Beverley (HOU): All-Around Point Guard
74 (-1) Emmanuel Mudiay (DEN): Pass-First Point
73 (-4) D'Angelo Russell (LAL): Offensive-Minded Point
73 (-1) Jerryd Bayless (PHI): Reliable Playmaker
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Attributes etc after the jump. Have fun guys
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