2k17 Roster Making Brainstorm Session - Ps4, Xbox, Pc

[Coachjosh21]

Hi all, so it's a bit early to talk about 2k17 but some ideas have surfaced on how to make rosters quickly, efficiently and just have more of them. If we can get enough people on board, the idea is to collaborate on the roster making process by working on the same roster file with several members adding their contributions to each project and then sharing our findings across platforms.

My hope is one person can create a Cap of say...Reggie Miller. On let's say...ps4. He will add his cap to every ps4 roster that needs a Reggie Miller. Then that person will share his formula for the created cap so other cap makers can just copy for their own rosters on Xbox and pc. This way we can build our projects off each other. Imagine the time saved in creating just one Reggie Miller shared across dozens of rosters. Then imagine that saved time can be put into creating even more rosters!

Let's brainstorm ideas on what tools we can use (like Google docs), what specific rosters we would like to create and start determining who will fulfill what roles in the roster making process.

Were mainly talking about a gameplan for 2k17 so we can start working ahead and then making rosters right at release time in September. I suppose if we're really motivated enough and get working right away, we have time to crank out rosters for 2k16 as well, but we'll see where the discussion goes...

I will start it off by sharing my ideas on how we can organize this along with some other details. I will update this first post as ideas come up. Post your idea, I'll edit in the first post and let see what sticks!

Custom Roster ideas
Specific Opening day season rosters starting w 2014-15
Playoff rosters w opening day season rosters as a base
Best teams of all time
Best team from each franchise
Best players of each franchise
Best 500 players of all time for fantasy draft
Past Olympics
Recreate past NBA finals matchups starting w 2015
2016 Olympic teams
2016-17 season edits using agreed upon ratings, tendencies, sigs, updated contracts etc. (could be updated weekly???)

Draft class ideas
Specific years that correspond with a season roster (ie 1997 draft class)
Fictional drafts
Future draft classes using names of real prospects (ie 2017 draft class)

Roster Project Task List
Ideally we need 1 person per bulletpoint. Post in this thread and let me know which assignment(s) you would like to take. I'm thinking some assignments like cap faces, and sig shots need multiple people so they can bounce ideas off each other. They could even post created faces and sigs on OS for the other contributors to weigh in on and suggest alternatives.

Cap creation
- Cap faces
- Cap body and related vitals (height, weight, wingspan etc)
- cap background vitals (like birthdate, college, jersey number)
- Ratings
- tendencies
- Badges
- accessories and shoes
- Sig shots and moves
- Hotspots

Research and put in spreadsheet as a reference across all platforms
- players' body and related vitals (height, weight, wingspan etc)
- players' background vitals (like birthdate, college, jersey number)
- player ratings
- Player tendencies
- Player Badges
- Player accessories and shoes
- Sig shots and moves
- Hotspots
- Staff ratings and tendencies
- Coaching sliders
- Points of emphasis
- Playbooks
- Playbook assignments (3pt, cutter, low post plays etc)

Roster Editing and Inputting
For Ps4:
- cap creation
- Team composition (adding or trading players to the correct team)
- existing Player info (vitals, ratings, tendencies etc)
- coaching info (coaching sliders, Poe, plays etc)
For Xbox:
- cap creation
- Team composition (adding or trading players to the correct team)
- Existing Player info (vitals, ratings, tendencies etc)
- coaching info (coaching sliders, Poe, plays etc)
For Pc:
- cap creation
- Team composition (adding or trading players to the correct team)
- existing Player info (vitals, ratings, tendencies etc)
- coaching info (coaching sliders, Poe, plays etc)

Gameplay testing and sliders
- simulate games and seasons to check stats
- CPU v CPU
- CPU v user
- slider adjustments

CREDITS
Basically anyone that posts here or inspired an idea will be mentioned and given credit. I really want people to feel like their contributions are valuable and appreciated. We all do this for free and purely for the fun of it.

Coachjosh21 - "Evil Producer"
Damjan10
Perfect23
Jaiveer - PS4 - Caps and ratings input for ps4
Vizzyxv - PS4 - spreadsheet input (currently working on current year 2015-16)
Sonicimage - PC - ratings and tendencies
Sim world team - inspired me to believe a community can make vast quantities of high quality classic rosters
Janmagn - PC - fictional draft classes (player types along with ratings and tendencies based on past players)
Tekkonkinkreet - PS4/Xbox - fictional draft classes
dweeks82 - PS4 - player editing including sigs, badges and contracts
doodypoo - PS4 - player attributes, caps
Cycloniac - PS4 - player ratings and tendencies, caps, gameplay sliders
Teondaddy1 - PS4 - draft classes

MOST WANTED ROSTER MAKERS
Lend us your talents and lets make amazing rosters as a team!

MJWizards
Freno90
Zakmarcin
CD90

[Damjan10]

Re: 2k17 Roster Making Brainstorm Session - Ps4, Xbox, Pc

Nice idea. I play a lot of PES and there is a great site for stats, I suppose it would be possible to make this for 2K but with CAP formulas (Vitals, face builds as well as attributes, tendencies and badges)

http://pesstatsdatabase.com/

[Jaiveer]

Re: 2k17 Roster Making Brainstorm Session - Ps4, Xbox, Pc

Great Idea, if we want to start one for 2K16 since there is some time left still. I can do ratings and some caps.

[Perfect23]

Re: 2k17 Roster Making Brainstorm Session - Ps4, Xbox, Pc

I would also stick historic Olympic teams in there too. I think vtcrb did one for 2k13, it was sick.

[Coachjosh21]

Re: 2k17 Roster Making Brainstorm Session - Ps4, Xbox, Pc

Added Olympic teams.
Any suggestions for what kind of roster to make for 2k16? I think a roster that includes best players of all time or something that includes many current players would be quick to make and still gives people enough time to play it.

[Jaiveer]

Re: 2k17 Roster Making Brainstorm Session - Ps4, Xbox, Pc

Added Olympic teams.
Any suggestions for what kind of roster to make for 2k16? I think a roster that includes best players of all time or something that includes many current players would be quick to make and still gives people enough time to play it.

Maybe the best teams of all time with 2-4 from each year starting from this year going down.

[VizzyXV]

Re: 2k17 Roster Making Brainstorm Session - Ps4, Xbox, Pc

I started up a spreadsheet, if any of you want an invite to it inbox me your gmail address

Basically all I'm doing now is a 2015-16 roster, just the personal info FOR NOW

I figure we could do that and just work backwards year by year? Or unless everyone really wants a certain year

[Coachjosh21]

Re: 2k17 Roster Making Brainstorm Session - Ps4, Xbox, Pc

I think working backwards is good! I just saw Jaiveer's thread of all the draft classes he made this year. I had no idea he made so many. I'm very excited about what we can all do together!

[Coachjosh21]

Re: 2k17 Roster Making Brainstorm Session - Ps4, Xbox, Pc

To add on to the idea of working backwards in years...I want to share an idea I've kicked around for a couple years. After watching the 2014 finals w Spurs and heat, I've been wanting to recreate that series and every other finals series in recent history. In fact I made a 2014 NBA finals roster for 2k15 but just didn't post it here on os. Ginobili was too op and I didn't know how to scale it back without taking away his ability to make pull up 3s and get that crazy dunk he had in game 5 that swung the momentum. But I did accessories, shoes, vitals, along with ratings and tendencies for all 30 players on both rosters. I tweaked everything to help the series play out as it did in real life. It was a blast to play. I won with the Spurs in 6 games.

In 2k16 I spent the first 3 months after release working on a 2011 NBA finals roster. I spent so much time watching the series over and over trying to capture the gameplay. I put a lot of time into creating formulas for ratings and tendencies. I bookmarked a picture of every player to get their accessories and shoes. It was fun to research and helped me as a coach. In the end I realized I still needed to create caps, input all the numbers from my spreadsheet and then test the gameplay before I would be able to enjoy it. I was probably still a good month or two away from a complete product. The next day I fired up a lakers MyLeague and never looked back. Much respect to those roster makers who have done it solo.

But now maybe we could all pitch in on this idea of recreating the NBA finals.
1) Just recreate the two finals teams starting w 2015 finals
2) weaken the rest of the 28 teams by putting stars in free agency so that simulating to the finals is easy
3) play a 7 game series w 12 minute quarters and play as the champions or rewrite history and try to win with the losing team.

Many of the players, if not all of them, are in the game already. It's just a matter of tweaking some ratings, tendencies and badges to match the results from the real NBA finals series. Any thoughts?

[VizzyXV]

Re: 2k17 Roster Making Brainstorm Session - Ps4, Xbox, Pc

That is an interesting idea for anyone who doesn't want to run a particular season just the finals, would be even better if 2K bring back Playoff Mode or whatever it was they had in previous years

Also in terms of ratings, I know a few guys here are good at it, but I feel we should use ONE particular rating 'style' if you get me, like sonicmages for example, that way every player of every roster is properly rated

I reckon it would be too inconsistent if say for example (because I know he has a lot of rosters made) Jaiveer has done half the ratings of a roster, and I just input sonicmages for the other half, there wouldn't be a great deal of consistency because of the two different rating styles

[Coachjosh21]

Re: 2k17 Roster Making Brainstorm Session - Ps4, Xbox, Pc

True. Hopefully sonic has all of the categories done by release time of 2k17. I haven't talked to him directly yet, but it seems like he would be onboard with us using his project for this. Maybe he could give some guidance how to rate the categories he hasn't pubicly released yet

[Coachjosh21]

Re: 2k17 Roster Making Brainstorm Session - Ps4, Xbox, Pc

Updated the op to add my finals idea and starting with the most recent season, then working backwards. Also added credits to everyone that has been part of the discussion so far

[VizzyXV]

Re: 2k17 Roster Making Brainstorm Session - Ps4, Xbox, Pc

I hope so too, at least the major ones, not taking a shot at Jaiveer either, dude obviously knows what he is doing in terms of ratings and all

Just i believe the roster would flow much better if we had one particular ratings style, and since sonic's is available to everyone, any one of us could get on and input them at any time

[Coachjosh21]

Re: 2k17 Roster Making Brainstorm Session - Ps4, Xbox, Pc

Nice idea. I play a lot of PES and there is a great site for stats, I suppose it would be possible to make this for 2K but with CAP formulas (Vitals, face builds as well as attributes, tendencies and badges)

http://pesstatsdatabase.com/

A webpage is a good idea. It guarantees everyone is looking at the most recent version. but that means only one person can keep it updated. With a shared document, anyone can update it with their portion of the project

[VizzyXV]

Re: 2k17 Roster Making Brainstorm Session - Ps4, Xbox, Pc

How do you guys think the coach ratings are decided?

These are what you can edit for head coaches

Offense
Defense
Potential
Contracts
Trading
Scouting
Training
Business


Above are all grade ratings from F to A+ I reckon only offense and defense, maybe potential play a part ON court so I was thinking, I know we can't get actual faces, BUT if we were able to figure out a system, a way of rating coaches, by some stat like idk ORTG and DRTG, we could potentially be able to implement HOW the coach of a particular team of that particular year coaches, for example Byron Scott coaches the Lakers, but if we were to look at the 2009 Lakers, and determine a rating for Phil Jackson that year we could edit Byron Scott's ratings to give it a bit more realism I suppose

You can also edit these

Team Style
Style 1, 2, 3
-Athleticism
-Intangibles
-Marketability
-Shooting post
-Shooting mid
-Shooting three
-Shot creation
-Size
-Toughness
-Transition
-Two way

Offense vs Defense
-Balanced
-Leans Defense
-Heavily Defense
-Heavily Offense
-Leans Offense

Guards vs Forwards
-Balanced
-Slightly to forwards
-Heavily to forwards
-Heavily to guards
-Slightly to guards

Inside vs Outside
-Balanced
-More outside
-Everything outside
-Everything inside
-More inside

Keep in mind though can only edit those through MyLeague (not sure bout MyGM) so wouldn't work for quick play

I hope all that makes sense lmao