Defense in NBA Live 16 and beyond

[GSW]

I wanted to make a thread specifically related to defense for this years NBA Live.

My hope is we can amass some clips and communication here so they can look in to fixing some things next year.

One of the biggest misconceptions is that since these are basketball video games, defense is looked at as boring or secondary, the funny part about this is defense can be a whole game in itself. I would liek to see this reflected in live 17 and moving forward.

I have been playing the demo and too many times i feel as though i cannot affect the game on the defensive end, I felt this way in live 15 as well, and even though it's a demo i have seen nothing that suggests this will be any different.

On ball defense basically feels like two opposing magnets facing each other, forcefields, no real (consistent) in between body up type aggressive defensive animations, on a drive the offensive player gets a speed burst and you get moved out of the way, there is no real respect to angles, or if there is there are no visual cues just invisible boxes pressing against each other.

Paint defense feels pretty much like a hope/wish tactic, i never feel like i can DO anything to stop anyone accept hit the block button and hope i get a block, i cant force baseline, middle, I cant really DO anything except pray.

I don't have all of the answers, but i wanted to start the dialouge. I really feel like the game has a lot of work to do on this end of the court and we should be able to discuss these things, maybe with video clips and constructive conversation all year.

[The 24th Letter]

Great post GSW.

I kind of want to wait until the day 1 patch before I comment so we can be clear on what still needs to be tweaked...

[VinsanityLives]

It's strange. Sometimes I can create an amazing block that feels warranted and sometimes I can get in my opponents grill and push him around realistically. But sometimes I cant do ANYTHING. Obviously Live Runs defense is unbearable.

They move quickly and nicely react to your movements on D but then they all of a sudden check out and have no strength? Idk it's weird. It's like they have no weight at times.

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[WTF]

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Been on here lurking since 2009 I just want let everyone on here know you can play physical defense in NBA Live 16 don't hold down the l2 button just move the left stick to wards them as their driving you'll see a lot of contact in the game just figured this out today

Try this out GSW. It's how I play too. May not be a fix all til the patches, but I don't have a ton of issues (other than the mile high hook) and I have some good defensive battles.

Also, blocks from behind are definitely more prevalent on the day 1 version, as is smarter help d.

[GSW]

Quote: Originally Posted by WTF

Try this out GSW. It's how I play too. May not be a fix all til the patches, but I don't have a ton of issues (other than the mile high hook) and I have some good defensive battles. Also, blocks from behind are definitely more prevalent on the day 1 version, as is smarter help d.

Yea maybe that animation happens *sometimes*, i dont hold L2 at all and i feather the stick.

[GSW]

Quote: Originally Posted by VinsanityLives

It's strange. Sometimes I can create an amazing block that feels warranted and sometimes I can get in my opponents grill and push him around realistically. But sometimes I cant do ANYTHING. Obviously Live Runs defense is unbearable. They move quickly and nicely react to your movements on D but then they all of a sudden check out and have no strength? Idk it's weird. It's like they have no weight at times. Sent from my XT1254 using Tapatalk

Feels like you're playing with angels or ghosts who just float around there is no real sense of weight which makes the "physicality" seem weird.

this is just IMO

[The 24th Letter]

I don't hold down L2 either, a practice I picked up last year...

but I do when someone is coming right at me....that seems to be the most consistent way to ensure you body them up....and even with that, there are more whiffs then their should be IMO...

[BigTigLSU]

This was a major issue for me as well... I posted this in the impressions thread see if this helps

"Here is something that may help some 2K people who are truly struggling with the feel of the game but want to give it a chance... and up the contact frequency on both sides cpu and user Ground and air collision... it helped out a lot..."
I maxed them both out at 100 from the default of 50 and I felt like the game played way better