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  • jenesaispas
    Banned
    • Mar 2015
    • 201

    #1

    Smoove's new video

    Chris smoove's new video has basically summed up 2K's myteam and their ratings. ffs. these guys are awful at this ****.

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  • onGear
    Rookie
    • Feb 2015
    • 77

    #2
    Re: Smoove's new video

    Chris should've also spoken about the stupid locker code release cards.

    How is it fair for people to get overpowered cards for free while people paying real money get really bad pack odds?

    The pink diamond players should be part of a reward for completing collections. this is the catch though. Once you add cards to a collection they are gone for ever so you are not allow to sell them again.

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    • jenesaispas
      Banned
      • Mar 2015
      • 201

      #3
      Re: Smoove's new video

      Originally posted by onGear
      Chris should've also spoken about the stupid locker code release cards.

      How is it fair for people to get overpowered cards for free while people paying real money get really bad pack odds?

      The pink diamond players should be part of a reward for completing collections. this is the catch though. Once you add cards to a collection they are gone for ever so you are not allow to sell them again.
      its stupid. he's discussed it before. a lot of us have said something to them about it. they simply dont get it. the only reason i posted the video here was because the devs lurk. but they never join in on actual convos like this -_-

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      • Readysetdiego
        Pro
        • Oct 2014
        • 908

        #4
        Re: Smoove's new video

        My thoughts exactly, except for Ruby LeBron his Post Fade is in Dirk territory so it makes up for the slightly lower 3 point rating.

        But for the most part, I agree with the video.

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        • vc15
          Pro
          • Oct 2008
          • 913

          #5
          Re: Smoove's new video

          Everything about myTeam this year reeks of laziness. There's just no other explanation.

          The devs thinks they can just do the bare minimum necessary and still cash in (and maybe they still are).

          How many cards are just rehashes of an existing card with a few random ratings switched slightly?

          There's no thought or effort put into these cards or any of the challenges whatsoever.
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          • MavericksFan1989
            Banned
            • Dec 2013
            • 439

            #6
            Re: Smoove's new video

            Originally posted by vc15
            Everything about myTeam this year reeks of laziness. There's just no other explanation.

            The devs thinks they can just do the bare minimum necessary and still cash in (and maybe they still are).

            How many cards are just rehashes of an existing card with a few random ratings switched slightly?

            There's no thought or effort put into these cards or any of the challenges whatsoever.
            Lol no joke man, literally there is 0 effort whatsoever. Heres proof

            They dont touch tendencies at all until a youtuber notifies them of it on twitter, they didnt change ANY of the onyx player models except for Onyx Steve Nash, most of the ratings for players are screwed up anyways(Onyx Dwight with 90 speed? Wtf? Onyx Ray Allen? Onyx Wade? Onyx Rose a 96?)

            And the pink diamond locker codes are just a cherry on top, theyd rather just give out the best players in the mode over a typing contest where they can just boost every stat to 99 and with that gain more followers on twitter, (cause to them thats more important than the actual game mode) Then actually spend five minutes making an onyx player model and correctly rating it. 2k just gives no ****s

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            • Justin7
              Pro
              • Oct 2014
              • 533

              #7
              Re: Smoove's new video

              I agree with mostly everything Smoove said. Only thing I can maybe agree with 2k on is Ruby LBJ driving dunk. It might be just me but his driving dunk ain't a 99 anymore imo. Low to mid 90's maybe I think, everything else I agree with Smoove. What I don't understand is why they don't look at the stats from previous 2k's for past players. Like MVP Rose look at 2k11 or 2k12 which ever 2k it was and look at those stats and use those or upgrade them to what they should be just not be like lets give him a 90 mid and 87 three or whatever. Then actually use that player model from that 2K to look like him. If you were using MVP LBJ from 2011-2012 go back to 2k11 or 2k12 and use that model.

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              • coached17
                Banned
                • Oct 2014
                • 487

                #8
                Re: Smoove's new video

                I really hope people aren't influenced by this...

                Sorry, but he's got some really BAD info on MyTeam in his recent videos....

                First off, Smoove apparently doesn't understand what Emerald cards ARE...they aren't cards put out to simply make a BOOSTED version of a player. They are cards put out to make an UPDATED version of the player.

                The reason Curry's shooting stats are slightly lower on his Emerald card is because his real life shooting % went down slightly.

                He doesn't even realize that Steph Curry is BELOW AVERAGE in terms of Speed compared to other NBA PG's. That's a fact. There's no debating it...Bring "Rashidi" in here or Beds and let them EXPLAIN how the Speed rating is now calculated.

                He also fails to even MENTION that these Emerald and Ruby examples come with all the BADGES already on them!!!!

                Doesn't he understand the incredible DIFFERENCE this makes in MyTeam?!?!

                And to top it all off, he doesn't know the difference between the Shawn Kemp who played for George Karl in Seattle...and "Fat" Shawn Kemp who played for the Cavs?

                As someone who is actually OLD enough to have seen both play...and actually saw "Fat" Shawn Kemp play in-person numerous times as a fan - I know the difference.

                Not only that...but Smoove only mentions that "Fat" Kemp got "worse" But that's NOT true. Sure certain ratings of his dropped....like those regarding his athleticism and dunking...but thats what happens when you get older and put on 30 pounds.

                He fails to mention that the "Fat" Kemp Onyx card is a BETTER post-up player. Which is completely realistic and based entirely on FACTS. "Fat" Kemp was more of an Al Jefferson type down on the block and in midrange while young Sonics Kemp was more of an athletic transition player in Seattle - think Blake Griffin.

                Just because the Onyx card was released AFTER the Gold card doesn't mean it MUST be a BETTER card. That's just silly.

                It's just a different card...based on the same player, at different points of his career.

                Sorry, but his recent "takes" on MyTeam have been pretty WEAK of late...and I really HOPE this is not someone who 2K is listening to. Especially when he clearly doesn't even understand the basics of how some of these cards work.

                These videos seem to appeal to a certain audience...which seems to be cheesers and kids who just like to COMPLAIN.

                Judging MyTeam only by comparing it to Madden Ultimate Team is beyond ridiculous. The last thing I want 2K to do is make their version more like Madden....UGH. Please god, no!

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                • jenesaispas
                  Banned
                  • Mar 2015
                  • 201

                  #9
                  Re: Smoove's new video

                  Originally posted by coached17
                  I really hope people aren't influenced by this...

                  Sorry, but he's got some really BAD info on MyTeam in his recent videos....

                  First off, Smoove apparently doesn't understand what Emerald cards ARE...they aren't cards put out to simply make a BOOSTED version of a player. They are cards put out to make an UPDATED version of the player.

                  The reason Curry's shooting stats are slightly lower on his Emerald card is because his real life shooting % went down slightly.

                  He doesn't even realize that Steph Curry is BELOW AVERAGE in terms of Speed compared to other NBA PG's. That's a fact. There's no debating it...Bring "Rashidi" in here or Beds and let them EXPLAIN how the Speed rating is now calculated.

                  He also fails to even MENTION that these Emerald and Ruby examples come with all the BADGES already on them!!!!

                  Doesn't he understand the incredible DIFFERENCE this makes in MyTeam?!?!

                  And to top it all off, he doesn't know the difference between the Shawn Kemp who played for George Karl in Seattle...and "Fat" Shawn Kemp who played for the Cavs?

                  As someone who is actually OLD enough to have seen both play...and actually saw "Fat" Shawn Kemp play in-person numerous times as a fan - I know the difference.

                  Not only that...but Smoove only mentions that "Fat" Kemp got "worse" But that's NOT true. Sure certain ratings of his dropped....like those regarding his athleticism and dunking...but thats what happens when you get older and put on 30 pounds.

                  He fails to mention that the "Fat" Kemp Onyx card is a BETTER post-up player. Which is completely realistic and based entirely on FACTS. "Fat" Kemp was more of an Al Jefferson type down on the block and in midrange while young Sonics Kemp was more of an athletic transition player in Seattle.

                  Just because the Onyx card was released AFTER the Gold card doesn't mean it MUST be a BETTER card. That's just silly.

                  It's just a different card...based on the same player, at different points of his career.

                  Sorry, but his recent "takes" on MyTeam have been pretty WEAK of late...and I really HOPE this is not someone who 2K is listening to. Especially when he clearly doesn't even understand the basics of how some of these cards work.

                  These videos seem to appeal to a certain audience...which seems to be cheesers and kids who just like to COMPLAIN.

                  Judging MyTeam only by comparing it to Madden Ultimate Team is beyond ridiculous. The last thing I want 2K to do is make their version more like Madden....UGH. Please god, no!
                  Badges arent a reason to release a new version of the card.

                  if steph is of mediocre speed(which is debatable), make that consistent throughout the game. dont release a gold version and then a "boosted" version is slower. it's lazy.

                  Why even release an onyx shawn kemp?

                  Gem versions of cards are supposed to be better versions. They set the precedence by giving Onyx guys prime versions of themselves. So yes, Onyx versions should be better versions because they are prime versions.

                  How does he not understand the basics of how they work? it's not rocket science. they release cards based on whether they belong to collections or throwback versions. The point, that you seem to not understand, is that there is no need for the same exact card over and over again. it saturates the market and the actual mode with mediocrity.


                  yes, this video appeals to a certain audience. that audience being one that is tired of mediocrity from 2K that's masqueraded as "great/new" content. there is jack **** about this game mode. It's one series of online play and then it's dead. they release players to keep you wanting to play. that's it.


                  2K is already making their version of madden......as EA created this ultimate team mode first.
                  Last edited by jenesaispas; 03-23-2015, 08:01 PM.

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                  • coached17
                    Banned
                    • Oct 2014
                    • 487

                    #10
                    Re: Smoove's new video

                    Originally posted by jenesaispas
                    Badges arent a reason to release a new version of the card.
                    Why not?

                    You're trying to tell me that getting a fully-badged up player isn't an advantage? Ridiculous.

                    if steph is of mediocre speed, make that consistent throughout the game. dont release a gold and then a "boosted" version is slower. it's lazy.
                    The Gold version is what his ratings were when the game was RELEASED. The Emerald isn't a "boosted" version. It's an UPDATED version based on the way he played at the beginning of this current season.

                    I already explained this...and if you still don't understand, I don't know of a better way to explain it.




                    Why even release an onyx shawn kemp?
                    Why not?

                    Just because the Onyx isn't better, it's still a DIFFERENT card. And even if YOU don't like the card, it doesn't mean other people won't.

                    Not everyone just wants a BETTER card. Kemp is a rare player who had two distinctly differing styles of play over the course of his career. What is wrong about having two different cards to represent both?




                    Gem versions of cards are supposed to be better versions. They set the precedence by giving Onyx guys prime versions of themselves. So yes, Onyx versions should be better versions because they are prime versions.
                    Nope. This isn't true...and if you're missing this then you don't understand MyTeam and you're asking/expecting nothing more than ARCADE nonsense.

                    Onyx cards are THROWBACK cards based on a player's performance from a certain year that is not included in the Gold cards based on the Historic players on those historic teams included in the game.

                    It's NOT about making a "better" version of a player...sorry.

                    The Ruby cards are "better" or boosted versions of certain players based on the "group" they are released in...Pick Pockets, Glass Cleaners, etc.


                    How does he not understand the basics of how they work? it's not rocket science. they release cards based on whether they belong to collections or throwback versions. The point, that you seem to not understand, is that there is no need for the same exact card over and over again. it saturates the market and the actual mode with mediocrity.
                    No offense, but you don't understand some of the BASICS either....as this post shows.

                    And only ONE of Smoove's examples is a "duplicate" card that saturates the market - that being the Ruby Payton.

                    yes, this video appeals to a certain audience. that audience being one that is tired of mediocrity from 2K that's masqueraded as "great/new" content. there is jack **** about this game mode. It's one series of online play and then it's dead. they release players to keep you wanting to play. that's it.

                    Mediocrity? Give me a break...

                    Here's a FACT - even though there are 22 players on the field at once during an NFL game compared to only 5 on the court at once in the NBA...and 53 on a roster compared to 13....2K has just as many, if not MORE players and cards than Madden.

                    If you go by percentage it's not even close.

                    So even though you claim there's not enough "content" - the amount of players MyTeam brings to the table completely DWARFS what Madden has.



                    Look....I'm not saying MyTeam is perfect. There are some things they've screwed up...but the examples in this video are NOT good examples of them.

                    Personally, I feel they need to do more Throwback/Onyx cards and LESS of the Ruby/Diamond/Pink Diamond cards that are nothing more than "boosted" versions of cards.

                    Cards should actually represent a REAL PLAYER at a certain point in time...even if it's a short period of time like Onyx Jeremy Lin or Greg Oden.

                    They shouldn't be throwing out cards that are just cheesy, souped-up versions of players who are already virtually UNSTOPPABLE like LeBron, Lillard, etc, etc....there's no need for these. Unless, of course, you simply want the CHEESIEST experience possible.

                    And some of their ratings have been bad...the Onyx Vlade Divac being a perfect example of that - however, the Onyx Shawn Kemp is NOT an example of that.
                    Last edited by coached17; 03-23-2015, 08:19 PM.

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                    • kabamaru
                      MVP
                      • Nov 2013
                      • 2478

                      #11
                      Re: Smoove's new video

                      I guess Chris would change his mind for all these if he became the new "Ronnie2k"

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                      • jyoung
                        Hall Of Fame
                        • Dec 2006
                        • 11132

                        #12
                        Re: Smoove's new video

                        So even though you claim there's not enough "content" - the amount of players MyTeam brings to the table completely DWARFS what Madden has.
                        How many of those players actually get used online in MyTeam?

                        Maybe 20 to 30 at most?

                        The majority of content in MyTeam is just filler and fluff.

                        Most of the challenges will cost you more in player contracts than they will return in MT rewards.

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                        • coached17
                          Banned
                          • Oct 2014
                          • 487

                          #13
                          Re: Smoove's new video

                          Originally posted by jyoung
                          How many of those players actually get used online in MyTeam?

                          Maybe 20 to 30 at most?

                          The majority of content in MyTeam is just filler and fluff.

                          Most of the challengs cost more in contracts than they will return in MT rewards.
                          Not sure there is much 2K can do about this...people are going to CHOOSE the players they WANT to choose. Popular players will get chosen by the average casual hoops fan far more than mediocre role players.

                          The only thing they can do is give guys like you and I who use lots of different players the OPTION to play in some sort of roster-restricted mode against each other instead of matching us up with cheesy casuals who all pick the same 13 best, most unstoppable players.

                          They've put rewards and challenges in place to ENCOURAGE players to try and use or collect MORE players. They can't do much else than that. It's not like they can force people to KEEP certain cards/players....right?

                          If the majority of the community is only using 20 to 30 cards, then the "problem" is with the community, not 2K.

                          If the only way to get people to use more cards is to create cheesy, souped-up versions of the already ELITE players....well, that's not a model for success and definitely not a direction guys like us want to see this mode take.

                          This is what Madden does...and thinking that 2K should do the same would only make this mode more cheesy and arcady.

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                          • kabamaru
                            MVP
                            • Nov 2013
                            • 2478

                            #14
                            Re: Smoove's new video

                            I am from Europe and I have never played Madden, but seeing a player starting at 92 rating, going to 94, then to 96, then to 99 seems silly enough... How can this ever be an example to IMPROVE the game? Furthermore made by someone eho accusses players forcheesing when clearly it is thedevelopers fault. For me trying to play a sim game , accusing others of cheesing, but wanting to have 13 99 rated players is 100% hypocricy

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                            • kabamaru
                              MVP
                              • Nov 2013
                              • 2478

                              #15
                              Re: Smoove's new video

                              They could use someting like the chemistry in FUT.Players in positions next to each other PG-SG, SG-SF etc, could get a +1 or +2 rating boost if the play in the same team or sometihng like that.Having 3-4 players from the same team could also boost. That means that you would see more Westbrooks and Ibaka and Lee and Bogut and Igguodala and Irving and Matthews for every Lillard , LBJ,Durant. They could force you have at least two players from same team for every player in your line-up. There are tons of things they could do.

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