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  • THESHAMISASHAME
    MVP
    • Mar 2013
    • 1482

    #1

    TheSham ALLSTAR NEAR DEFAULT HARDCORE SIM SLIDERS

    Box score stats and and real game action photo updates throughout the thread ! Play the game the way it was programmed to play on near default

    I use the V 1.00 tuner, very important to use that !!!

    Hello I tried many different sliders and I really think this game tilted ice and all is very similar to mlb the show programming wise and it needs to be played on near default sliders or it screws up the AI and programming kinda like when people gut the sliders and then complain there's no penalties .

    I mean most sliders only have 6 clicks so you take shooting down from 3 default to 1 or 0 and they complain cpu doesnt shoot enough or bad shot stats EA lol jeez 2 clicks are a third of the scale guys what do you think is gonna happen .

    But I found when you leave them near default me and the cpu get 3 to 4 Powerplays a game and all different types of penalties too on just 8 minute periods!

    Now normally I wouldn't play this game on default but I think EA NHL did alot of great things under the hood this year with AI and strategies and eliminating the cpu boost when they need a goal so I hope you enjoy how I think this Hockey Video game was made to be played .

    Constructive feedback will always be appreciated towards this Incredible game of NHL Hockey because NHL 15 " WILL OWN YOUR SOUL " and Yes " Its in the Game " .

    SLIDER CHANGES IN GREEN
    KEY SLIDERS IN RED
    And I will always be updating the sliders as I learn more about what makes this game tick and you cant hope to control the tilted Ice factor but only flow with it .



    Quick Settings

    Camera Classic , or use similar view to see whole Ice.
    Controls Hybrid (buttons) or your choice but only tested on Hybrid !
    Difficulty All-Star
    Game Style Hardcore (Custom)
    Period Length 8 minutes but you get alot of bang for your $$$ and usually 3 to 4 PP per game cpu also
    .
    Shootout Dynamic Medium or your choice

    Game-play Settings

    General

    Attribute Effects 3 ( key slider ! raise it if your struggling to boost players but 3 is what EA said to use to keep most realistic )
    Broken Stick Frequency 2
    Game Speed 3
    Game-play Version V 1.00 tuner
    Fatigue Effect - CPU 3
    Fatigue Effect - Human 3
    Fatigue Recovery - CPU 3
    Fatigue Recovery - Human 3
    Injury Occurrence - CPU 3
    Injury Occurrence - Human 3
    Player Acceleration - CPU 4
    Player Acceleration - Human 4
    Puck Control - CPU 2
    Puck Control - Human 2

    Checking ( you really need to play good positional Defense or pay ! )

    Hitting Assistance 1
    Aggression - CPU 4 6 (key slider lessen if your getting to many PP or dont like how the cpu is defending positional) but see even if I keep it at 3 I still see 3 PP a game as I think they are more programmed in the game on default .
    Aggression - Human 3
    Hitting Power - CPU 2
    Hitting Power - Human 2
    Poke Effectiveness - CPU 2
    Poke Effectiveness - Human 2
    Stick Lift Effectiveness - CPU 3
    Stick Lift Effectiveness - Human 3

    Passing

    Manual Passing On
    Pass Assist 2
    Pass Speed 3
    Saucer Pass Speed 3
    Pass Accuracy - CPU 2
    Pass Accuracy - Human 2
    Pass Interceptions - CPU 4
    Pass Interceptions - Human 4
    Pass Reception Ease - CPU 2
    Pass Reception Ease - Human 2

    Shooting (might re evaluate down the road but with 8 min periods seems good though not alot of 2-1 games )

    One Timer Accuracy - CPU 3
    One Timer Accuracy - Human 3
    Shot Accuracy - CPU 3
    Shot Accuracy - Human 3
    Shot Power - CPU 3
    Shot Power - Human 3
    Slap Shot Accuracy - CPU 3
    Slap Shot Accuracy - Human 3
    Slap Shot Power - CPU 4
    Slap Shot Power - Human 4

    AI

    AI Learning 6
    Be A Pro Strategy Adjustment 3
    CPU Difficulty Adjustment 0
    CPU Face-off Difficulty 4
    CPU Penalties 6
    CPU Strategy Adjustment 4
    CPU Teammate Penalties 3 raise if cpu isnt get enough PP chances or lower if too many *** I changed to 3 as I got much better a positional Hockey and no longer scramble and at 4 you will see alot maybe to many
    Fight Difficulty 2 (but go off your skill as tilted Ice advantage is huge , so I choose might fights wisely ! )
    User Strategy Adjustment 4 , AI calls the shots,too busy enjoying the game

    Goalies

    Goalie Cover Frequency 6 will cover perfectly and they wont pass with a crowd around
    Goalie Passing 6 will now play close by pucks with nobody around them and behind the net

    Goalie Reaction Speed - CPU 4
    Goalie Reaction Speed - Human 4
    Goalie Screen Effect - CPU 2 Changed both Hu and Cpu to 2 as I just saw to many weak goals on all sorts of plays and now Im also seeing a fewer low scoring games .
    Goalie Screen Effect - Human 2 read line above

    Rules

    Fighting 2 sorry I like old time hockey and I really only use to see alot of scrums and chippy Hockey not fights
    Icing Hybrid Icing
    Injuries On
    Off-sides Delayed
    Penalties 4
    Penalty Time Scaling 4
    Post Whistle Rules Authentic

    Advanced Settings
    Away Shot Aim Manual
    Home Shot Aim Manual

    Visual Settings
    Puck Highlight your choice
    Puck Size your choice
    Last edited by THESHAMISASHAME; 09-23-2014, 07:36 AM.
    Finally Roster share in NHL 22 ! Dreams do come true ! To Garryowen and Glory boys !
  • ParisB
    MVP
    • Jan 2010
    • 1699

    #2
    Re: TheSham ALLSTAR NEAR DEFAULT HARDCORE SIM SLIDERS

    I've played 20 games with default sliders and saw barely 1 powerplay per game per team.

    I tried 6 games with yours last night and this morning before work. Same issue.

    The Aggression slider does not appear to be key and has a negative gameplay effect.

    Any other ideas I can try? This is the only statistic issue I'm having. Nobody is gutting sliders. This has been an issue for years.

    Superstar has the most potential. I had 4 power plays in the game I tried but I got smoked by Buffalo and it felt too difficult for me.

    Please post a couple of screenshots of 5 games in a row. Your results sound good but we need to see it the way Nomo does it on the MLB forums.

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    • DanJustyn
      Rookie
      • Sep 2014
      • 21

      #3
      Re: TheSham ALLSTAR NEAR DEFAULT HARDCORE SIM SLIDERS

      Try increase break stick frequency - stick lift = broken stick = PP

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      • THESHAMISASHAME
        MVP
        • Mar 2013
        • 1482

        #4
        Re: TheSham ALLSTAR NEAR DEFAULT HARDCORE SIM SLIDERS

        Originally posted by DanJustyn
        Try increase break stick frequency - stick lift = broken stick = PP
        Thanks Dan but penalties arent a issue with these sliders as me and the cpu are getting 3 to 4 PP per game and thats on 8 minute periods so more would wreck the experience and never less than 3 PP for me and once and a great while 2 PP for the cpu .
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        • ParisB
          MVP
          • Jan 2010
          • 1699

          #5
          Re: TheSham ALLSTAR NEAR DEFAULT HARDCORE SIM SLIDERS

          Originally posted by THESHAMISASHAME
          Thanks Dan but penalties arent a issue with these sliders as me and the cpu are getting 3 to 4 PP per game and thats on 8 minute periods so more would wreck the experience and never less than 3 PP for me and once and a great while 2 PP for the cpu .
          They're an issue for everyone since nhl 10.

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          • THESHAMISASHAME
            MVP
            • Mar 2013
            • 1482

            #6
            Re: TheSham ALLSTAR NEAR DEFAULT HARDCORE SIM SLIDERS

            Got a interesting tip from Mizz on putting fighting at 2 clicks for more chippie play and not just more fights if I understand him correctly .
            Gonna test it now.

            Another note on CPU aggression slider even when I have it at 3 and not 6 I still get 3 pp a game on 8 minute periods but it seems more programmed in then something I caused as I like 6 for the all out in your face pressure just like real NHL hockey so keep your heads up boys ! always checking keep your check.
            Last edited by THESHAMISASHAME; 09-19-2014, 03:26 AM.
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            • ultimatefighter
              MVP
              • Sep 2011
              • 1019

              #7
              Re: TheSham ALLSTAR NEAR DEFAULT HARDCORE SIM SLIDERS

              Hey man, I just popped these in on a play now game really quick. I liked everything, it was fun and exciting. Im gonna statt up a Be A GM with them. The only thing was I wanted to ask if you had a tip, I was the Caps and olayed the Lightning, it was the 3rd Period and I had 28 hits and they only had 2 hits.

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              • ultimatefighter
                MVP
                • Sep 2011
                • 1019

                #8
                Re: TheSham ALLSTAR NEAR DEFAULT HARDCORE SIM SLIDERS

                I was also on Dynamic High if that makes a difference?

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                • THESHAMISASHAME
                  MVP
                  • Mar 2013
                  • 1482

                  #9
                  Re: TheSham ALLSTAR NEAR DEFAULT HARDCORE SIM SLIDERS

                  Originally posted by ultimatefighter
                  Hey man, I just popped these in on a play now game really quick. I liked everything, it was fun and exciting. Im gonna statt up a Be A GM with them. The only thing was I wanted to ask if you had a tip, I was the Caps and olayed the Lightning, it was the 3rd Period and I had 28 hits and they only had 2 hits.
                  You better check your sliders sometimes theres slider save issues and make sure your on hardcore game style and it will go to custom .

                  Originally posted by ultimatefighter
                  I was also on Dynamic High if that makes a difference?
                  nah thats about the same as Classic view so you should be good to go and I hope the sliders play the same in that mode as I only tested play now and with EA NHL sometimes modes were programmed a tad different .

                  Hey let me know how it works out and if theres still a hit issue ? as I got out hit last game 20 to 12 , out shot 28-16 and lost 4-1 as I was NYR vs Pitt at MSG .
                  Last edited by THESHAMISASHAME; 09-19-2014, 05:18 AM.
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                  • ultimatefighter
                    MVP
                    • Sep 2011
                    • 1019

                    #10
                    Re: TheSham ALLSTAR NEAR DEFAULT HARDCORE SIM SLIDERS

                    BE A GM Game 1:

                    MTL 0 vs WSH 5

                    22 Shots 28
                    6 Hits 15
                    5:28 TOA 5:33
                    76% Pass 74%
                    31:00 PM 29:00
                    2 PP 3
                    2:56 PPM 4:25
                    18 FOW 20
                    0 BA 0
                    0 SHG 1

                    Really fun game, most of my goals were right olace right time, capitalizing. The CPU Hit me more. Im still new, so you can probably tell me how reallistic the stats are.

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                    • THESHAMISASHAME
                      MVP
                      • Mar 2013
                      • 1482

                      #11
                      Re: TheSham ALLSTAR NEAR DEFAULT HARDCORE SIM SLIDERS

                      Originally posted by ultimatefighter
                      BE A GM Game 1:

                      MTL 0 vs WSH 5

                      22 Shots 28
                      6 Hits 15
                      5:28 TOA 5:33
                      76% Pass 74%
                      31:00 PM 29:00
                      2 PP 3
                      2:56 PPM 4:25
                      18 FOW 20
                      0 BA 0
                      0 SHG 1

                      Really fun game, most of my goals were right olace right time, capitalizing. The CPU Hit me more. Im still new, so you can probably tell me how reallistic the stats are.
                      Great stats ! but if you get to good I have some simple changes as Im getting very disciplined on positional Defense so the last two games the cpu only had 3 PP so I can up Teammate penalty slider as a quick fix without effecting other sliders .

                      Oh if you want you can lessen your hit advantage by lowering Hit assist slider but you better time those hits perfectly and by looking at your #s remember you probably had some tilted ice going at times because of your hit advantage which is huge in this game .
                      Last edited by THESHAMISASHAME; 09-19-2014, 06:21 AM.
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                      • highheatkingsb
                        All Star
                        • Jul 2005
                        • 8152

                        #12
                        Re: TheSham ALLSTAR NEAR DEFAULT HARDCORE SIM SLIDERS

                        Definitely my favorite set so far, only change I made was goalie passing...set it back to default..lossed 5-3 with the Rangers against the Stars, shots 27-22 me. The only thing I saw is that every goal was off a one timer or garbage goal....have you been seeing goals scored from slappers from the blue line or deflected goals? I'm going to try the next game with CPU Goalie Reaction at default and Hum at 4... I'm sure I will the more I play, I will see them, just curious.
                        Last edited by highheatkingsb; 09-19-2014, 11:13 PM.
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                        • highheatkingsb
                          All Star
                          • Jul 2005
                          • 8152

                          #13
                          Re: TheSham ALLSTAR NEAR DEFAULT HARDCORE SIM SLIDERS

                          2nd game played....same teams....got smoked in this one...lossed 6-3 to the Stars....outshot 41-20, just a bad defense positioning game. It was back and forth 2-1, 3-2, 4-3, until the 3rd when they got one and an empty netter to ice it. I did score on a wrister from the slot and a slapper with a deflection from the blue line as did the cpu...good stuff going on here, might lower the accuracy for the AI shooting a notch. Otherwise, great set here TheSham...making this game enjoyable for me.
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                          • THESHAMISASHAME
                            MVP
                            • Mar 2013
                            • 1482

                            #14
                            Re: TheSham ALLSTAR NEAR DEFAULT HARDCORE SIM SLIDERS

                            Originally posted by highheatkingsb
                            Definitely my favorite set so far, only change I made was goalie passing...set it back to default..lossed 5-3 with the Rangers against the Stars, shots 27-22 me. The only thing I saw is that every goal was off a one timer or garbage goal....have you been seeing goals scored from slappers from the blue line or deflected goals? I'm going to try the next game with CPU Goalie Reaction at default and Hum at 4... I'm sure I will the more I play, I will see them, just curious.
                            Yeah its something Im testing and its why I changed Goalie Screen to 2 as I saw too many weak goals like you mentioned above but with the tilted Ice you gotta be careful as no two games are a like BUT the key is play the passing lanes and stay in good position dont always chase . You can change reaction slider but then you just wrecked the game with robo goalies , 4 is default on goalie reaction ?

                            I been noticing weird stuff on cpu Goalie passing lately so why did you change it ?

                            Originally posted by highheatkingsb
                            2nd game played....same teams....got smoked in this one...lossed 6-3 to the Stars....outshot 41-20, just a bad defense positioning game. It was back and forth 2-1, 3-2, 4-3, until the 3rd when they got one and an empty netter to ice it. I did score on a wrister from the slot and a slapper with a deflection from the blue line as did the cpu...good stuff going on here, might lower the accuracy for the AI shooting a notch. Otherwise, great set here TheSham...making this game enjoyable for me.
                            DONT touch the shooting or the whole game can change !I found if I lowered Goalie screen to 2 it eliminates alot of the weak goals I see, screens , slappers , one timers and even cpu scoring on their own goalie ect .

                            Its a balanced tweak without making goalies super human but on the rest you gotta play good D or switch off the man with the puck and have the cpu take um till you get better.

                            Im also playing with cpu aggression at 4 as it holds them in better position and I still get my 3 PP a game but its users choice .
                            Thanks for all the great feedback and keep it coming but isnt the randomness and flow of each game fun instead of trying to force the game to play as it wasnt intended ?
                            Last edited by THESHAMISASHAME; 09-20-2014, 01:58 AM.
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                            • THESHAMISASHAME
                              MVP
                              • Mar 2013
                              • 1482

                              #15
                              Re: TheSham ALLSTAR NEAR DEFAULT HARDCORE SIM SLIDERS

                              UPDATES In green on page 1 but I also need feedback on Goalie passing and cover , thanks
                              Last edited by THESHAMISASHAME; 09-20-2014, 01:52 AM.
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