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  • phillyfan23
    MVP
    • Feb 2005
    • 2301

    #1

    Does the tuner affect OFFLINE gameplay???

    I have heard from some that the lastest gameplay tuner only affect ONLINE CFm and online head to head?

    But does it also affect OFFLINE CFM and play now??

    can anyone confirm??
  • scoonie05
    Rookie
    • Dec 2009
    • 493

    #2
    Re: Does the tuner affect OFFLINE gameplay???

    Good question. I think so, but I'm not 100%

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    • Shon 23
      Pro
      • Sep 2003
      • 634

      #3
      Re: Does the tuner affect OFFLINE gameplay???

      Well, I know on the day of the tuner updates, I played a Play Now game and as the Rams, had 14 sacks on the Packer's Rodgers. So, I would say at least on that day it did not affect gameplay, because since the tuner updates, I haven't come close to that many sacks in my online CFM. Now, I don't know if that has changed, because I haven't touched Play Now since I had those 14 sacks. That was a little more than several days ago.

      I'm pretty sure the patch updates for offline CFM haven't rolled in yet, either. That one is easy to figure out though. Sim the season and see what the sim stats are showing. If they are out of whack, like they were upon release, then no fix yet for offline CFM. I'm pretty sure offline CFM hasn't been fixed yet.

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      • azdawgpound
        All Star
        • Nov 2009
        • 5533

        #4
        Re: Does the tuner affect OFFLINE gameplay???

        Originally posted by ForTheQuinn94
        Well, I know on the day of the tuner updates, I played a Play Now game and as the Rams, had 14 sacks on the Packer's Rodgers. So, I would say at least on that day it did not affect gameplay, because since the tuner updates, I haven't come close to that many sacks in my online CFM. Now, I don't know if that has changed, because I haven't touched Play Now since I had those 14 sacks. That was a little more than several days ago.

        I'm pretty sure the patch updates for offline CFM haven't rolled in yet, either. That one is easy to figure out though. Sim the season and see what the sim stats are showing. If they are out of whack, like they were upon release, then no fix yet for offline CFM. I'm pretty sure offline CFM hasn't been fixed yet.


        I thought EA combining the modes was so they wouldn't need different patches? so now that they combined??? offline still needs a seprate patch? never knew that I always thought the patches were for all modes since that's what EA stated since it is called CONNECTED FRANCHISE mode.

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        • HighCmpPct
          Denny 3K
          • Oct 2011
          • 3588

          #5
          Re: Does the tuner affect OFFLINE gameplay???

          Originally posted by azdawgpound
          I thought EA combining the modes was so they wouldn't need different patches? so now that they combined??? offline still needs a seprate patch? never knew that I always thought the patches were for all modes since that's what EA stated since it is called CONNECTED FRANCHISE mode.
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          • BleedGreen710
            Eagles Fan
            • Oct 2012
            • 4025

            #6
            Re: Does the tuner affect OFFLINE gameplay???

            Originally posted by ForTheQuinn94
            Well, I know on the day of the tuner updates, I played a Play Now game and as the Rams, had 14 sacks on the Packer's Rodgers. So, I would say at least on that day it did not affect gameplay, because since the tuner updates, I haven't come close to that many sacks in my online CFM.


            have u considered maybe 'play now' plays differently then CFM's do? cause I know that's something that's been true in lots of EA football games.

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            • Shon 23
              Pro
              • Sep 2003
              • 634

              #7
              Re: Does the tuner affect OFFLINE gameplay???

              Originally posted by azdawgpound
              I thought EA combining the modes was so they wouldn't need different patches? so now that they combined??? offline still needs a seprate patch? never knew that I always thought the patches were for all modes since that's what EA stated since it is called CONNECTED FRANCHISE mode.
              I don't know if I am quite understanding your question correctly, but there is offline CFM where you can save the game to your hard drive and it isn't connected to online.

              Then there is the online CFM league you can start (saved server side), a solo league which people have been playing a lot of since the tuner updates seemed to have only fixed online CFM.

              If you want to check out yourself, sim the season in offline CFM and see if the sim stats are fixed (too many rushing yards for QBs, bad QB play for the elite QBs, abnomorally high sack totals on the season, ect), which I'm pretty sure they aren't. I am almost positive they have not rolled out a patch for a fix to offline CFMs, yet.

              Also, like I said about Play Now mode, I played it after the tuner updates and it played horribly, with too many sacks being taken like upon release, and the QB just standing still for 5 seconds in the pocket waiting to be sacked. In online CFM, after the tuner updates, this got a little better. Especially the sacks, there were not as many.
              Last edited by Shon 23; 09-09-2014, 12:31 PM.

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              • Shon 23
                Pro
                • Sep 2003
                • 634

                #8
                Re: Does the tuner affect OFFLINE gameplay???

                Originally posted by BleedGreen710
                have u considered maybe 'play now' plays differently then CFM's do? cause I know that's something that's been true in lots of EA football games.
                Yeah, I considered it, after I had 10 and 14 sacks in back-to-back games and realized it was broken, while after the tuner updates and after starting an online CFM, the game played better. I definitely figured out it wasn't the same.. lol
                Last edited by Shon 23; 09-09-2014, 12:41 PM.

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                • phillyfan23
                  MVP
                  • Feb 2005
                  • 2301

                  #9
                  Re: Does the tuner affect OFFLINE gameplay???

                  i guess I'm not the only one confused....

                  It feels like there is no diference offline with or without tuner...

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                  • Shon 23
                    Pro
                    • Sep 2003
                    • 634

                    #10
                    Re: Does the tuner affect OFFLINE gameplay???

                    Why are people confused on the tuner updates? I thought it was common knowledge that EA said the tuner updates were for online CFM (and I think H2H games, not sure).. and that we still have to wait for them to eventually release an offline CFM patch to fix the sim stats and the way the QBs were taking WAY too many sacks post-tuner update.

                    That's why in the slider forums, testers are testing their games in solo online CFMs. Things have been fixed regarding sim stats and the CPU QB taking 14 sacks in one game, in online CFM.

                    Hell, I hope I AM wrong, and all this time offline CFM has been fixed alongside online CFM mode... but that's not why I read from EA when the tuner updates were released. If I'm wrong, someone show me a statement saying offline CFM has be patched and fixed, and I'll thank you.
                    Last edited by Shon 23; 09-09-2014, 01:01 PM.

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                    • phillyfan23
                      MVP
                      • Feb 2005
                      • 2301

                      #11
                      Re: Does the tuner affect OFFLINE gameplay???

                      I am confused because some people here have said that the tuner affects BOTH offline CFM and online CFM.

                      The tuner from what I know improved OL interactions which lead to better sack numbers ( not better qb AI)....

                      I guess we can say then that offline play is still like it was on release day?

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                      • Shon 23
                        Pro
                        • Sep 2003
                        • 634

                        #12
                        Re: Does the tuner affect OFFLINE gameplay???

                        Originally posted by phillyfan23
                        I am confused because some people here have said that the tuner affects BOTH offline CFM and online CFM.

                        The tuner from what I know improved OL interactions which lead to better sack numbers ( not better qb AI)....

                        I guess we can say then that offline play is still like it was on release day?
                        That is what I've been led to believe since EA released the tuner updates for online CFM. There should be an official statement someone can dig up from earlier when they pushed the updates through regarding the tuners.

                        Everyone in the slider forum has been playing online CFM, as the sim stats are still supposed to be broken for offline CFM. I also expect the QB still holds on to the ball too long taking an abnormal amount of sacks, as it was in both CFM before the tuner updates. In online CFM the sim stats are fixed and the QBs are not taking nearly as many sacks anymore.. it's been that way since the tuner updates came out.

                        I want to actually play an offline CFM, but I'm still waiting for EA to fix offline sim stats and the sack problems for that, unfortunately. If you sim offline CFM you should still see stats that are out of whack, whereas online CFM the sim stats are realistic.

                        No Peyton Manning, Brees, Rodgers, ect with 20 TDs and 25 INTS and 3500 yards on the season. No multiple 2000 yard rushers and near 2000 yard rushers for RBs, and not 27 total sacks on the season like I saw about a week or more after release. That isn't happening in online CFM right now, along with the abundant amount of sacks on CPU QBs that we had before the tuner updates.
                        Last edited by Shon 23; 09-09-2014, 01:44 PM.

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                        • SmashMan
                          All Star
                          • Dec 2004
                          • 9608

                          #13
                          Re: Does the tuner affect OFFLINE gameplay???

                          Originally posted by ForTheQuinn94
                          That is what I've been led to believe since EA released the tuner updates for online CFM. There should be an official statement someone can dig up from earlier when they pushed the updates through regarding the tuners.
                          I think you're using the wrong terminology. Server-side fixes to online CFM and tuner updates are not the same thing.

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                          • bucky60
                            Banned
                            • Jan 2008
                            • 3288

                            #14
                            Re: Does the tuner affect OFFLINE gameplay???

                            Originally posted by ForTheQuinn94
                            I don't know if I am quite understanding your question correctly, but there is offline CFM where you can save the game to your hard drive and it isn't connected to online.

                            Then there is the online CFM league you can start (saved server side), a solo league which people have been playing a lot of since the tuner updates seemed to have only fixed online CFM.
                            I don't think game tuning requires an official patch. I believe tuning and patches are completely different.

                            I also think online gets patches first because the online patch can bypass the sony/microsoft patch certification process since the online patches come straight from the EA servers.

                            If I am wrong about this, then please, someone correct me.

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                            • Last Gunfighter
                              "I reckon so."
                              • Sep 2012
                              • 891

                              #15
                              Re: Does the tuner affect OFFLINE gameplay???

                              This is just my interpretation of all this but I think that Smash is correct. They released a tuner that applies to both online and offline CFM in regards to sacks but the the server-side fix for the SIM stats applies only to online CFM. I could be wrong, wouldn't be the first time!
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