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  • JA Money14
    Banned
    • Mar 2012
    • 0

    #1

    JA Money's Next-Gen OneandOnly Realism Sliders!

    Prefacing the thread by saying this game will never achieve perfection. My goal is to get as close as possible though..

    I had a lot of positive feedback on my Current Gen sliders released back in October. I've since picked up the amazing Xbox One.

    I've seen feedback that said they're getting good results on Next-Gen, but through a few test games I've noticed they're not quite as polished as they are on the 360. Clearly the two games are similar, but not at all identical.

    So I am throwing together a NEW set based on the formulas of my CG set. I started with them as default and am running tests now.

    Some may know that I have a roster file, but this is not a set that MUST be used with my roster. I am using my roster to test it, but my rating formulas, like 2K's seem to be statistically based from real data, so they will work for you regardless of roster. That being said, ALL sets need to be tweaked in order to fit your particular playstyle . No SimHead is equal.

    Let's get down to business!

    Game Settings
    Difficulty: Superstar
    Game Style: Custom (Start with Sim)
    Game Speed: 50
    Quarter length: 10-12 Minutes (Varies with each user. 11-12 works for me to get some nice box scores.)
    Fatigue: On
    Injuries: On
    Shooting Type: User Preference (I use shot stick.)
    FT Shooting Type: Shot Stick
    Free Throw Difficulty: 65

    Sliders: User/CPU
    (any without a dash are the same for both User and CPU)

    Offense
    Inside Shot Success: 44/43
    Close Shot Success: 44/43
    Mid-Range Success: 46/45
    3PT Success: 47
    Layup Success: 45/44
    Dunk in Traffic Frequency: 40
    Dunk in Traffic Success: 50
    Pass Accuracy: 49/44
    Alley-Oop Success: 45/44
    Contact Shot Success: 37/35

    Defense
    Driving Contact Shot Frequency: 100 (Love that contact!!)
    Inside Contact Shot Frequency: 100
    Layup Defense Strength TAKEOFF: 60
    Layup Defense Strength RELEASE: 80
    Jump Shot Defense Strength GATHER: 60
    Jump Shot Defense Strength RELEASE: 68
    Help Defense Strength: 85
    Steal Success: 48

    Attributes
    Quickness: 52/48
    Vertical: 47/45
    Strength: 55/52
    Stamina: 50
    Speed: 44
    Durability: 50
    Hustle: 40/20
    Ball Handling: 48/44
    Hands: 45/35
    Dunking Ability: 50
    On-Ball Defense: 63/50
    Stealing: 50/45
    Blocking: 20/65
    Offensive Awareness: 50/60
    Defensive Awareness: 60/50
    Offensive Rebounding: 50/50
    Defensive Rebounding:50/60
    Consistency: 55
    Fatigue Rate: 53
    Injury Frequency: 53
    Injury Severity: 35

    Tendencies (Put for user and cpu, needed for player lock)
    Take Inside Shots: 45/30
    Take Close Shots: 30
    Take Mid-Range Shots: 60
    Take 3Pt Shots: 55
    Post Shots: 85/80
    Attack the Basket: 68/35
    Look for Post Players: 99
    Throw Alley-Oops: 50
    Attempt Dunks: 50
    Attempt Putbacks: 70/70
    Play Passing Lanes: 30/25
    Go for On-Ball Steals: 40/40
    Contest Shots: 70/70
    Backdoor Cuts: 70/70

    Fouls
    Over the Back Foul Frequency: 84
    Charging Foul Frequency: 95
    Blocking Foul Frequency: 95
    Reaching Foul Frequency: 81
    Shooting Foul Frequency: 100
    Loose Ball Foul Frequency: 80

    Thanks, and I appreciate and welcome other opinions on the set!


    Thanks for any support.

    Thanks! Keep up the feedback, please believe I really do read all the posts even if I don't like or reply, and all the feedback is taken into account when I update the sliders!

    BOXSCORES:
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    Last edited by JA Money14; 03-13-2014, 01:25 AM.
  • pimpinpidgeon8
    MVP
    • Aug 2005
    • 1408

    #2
    Re: JA Money's Next-Gen OneandOnly Realism Sliders!

    giving these a try.
    "Hate my game, hate my swagger, my hunger. Hate that I'm a veteran, a champion. Hate that, hate it with all your heart...
    ...and hate that I'm loved for the exact same reasons."

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    • TrueBlue502
      Rookie
      • Apr 2012
      • 70

      #3
      Re: JA Money's Next-Gen OneandOnly Realism Sliders!

      Do you recommend changing the Defensive Assist Strength/Automatic Shot Contest in the Controller Settings?

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      • JA Money14
        Banned
        • Mar 2012
        • 0

        #4
        Re: JA Money's Next-Gen OneandOnly Realism Sliders!

        Originally posted by TrueBlue502
        Do you recommend changing the Defensive Assist Strength/Automatic Shot Contest in the Controller Settings?
        I've always played on 0 because people said it helps , honestly I haven't seen a massive difference. But that's what I do.

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        • JA Money14
          Banned
          • Mar 2012
          • 0

          #5
          Re: JA Money's Next-Gen OneandOnly Realism Sliders!

          Updated the OP with some pretty awesome box score of my game between the Knicks(Me) @ LA Lakers.

          Ideally, I'd like to up the CPU turnovers, but that is very difficult without causing other outlying issues. So, We'll see how it goes.

          Anyone else having good results, or success with these?

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          • lere2001
            Pro
            • Jun 2010
            • 555

            #6
            Re: JA Money's Next-Gen OneandOnly Realism Sliders!

            I tried these sliders and your roster with two different matchups yesterday, and I just couldn't keep up scoring with the CPU. This is my first NBA, so maybe I'm just not as good at scoring as I should be for these sliders difficulty. Any tips on offense and defense to help me? Because I would love to use your sliders and rosters.

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            • JA Money14
              Banned
              • Mar 2012
              • 0

              #7
              Re: JA Money's Next-Gen OneandOnly Realism Sliders!

              Originally posted by lere2001
              I tried these sliders and your roster with two different matchups yesterday, and I just couldn't keep up scoring with the CPU. This is my first NBA, so maybe I'm just not as good at scoring as I should be for these sliders difficulty. Any tips on offense and defense to help me? Because I would love to use your sliders and rosters.
              My only tip is lower difficulty and slowly work your way up.

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              • warhawks
                Just started!
                • Oct 2013
                • 3

                #8
                Re: JA Money's Next-Gen OneandOnly Realism Sliders!

                I love the sliders. I'm hoping to get some box scores soon. Until then, what is a good tip to keep the CPU from dominating me in the paint? More than half of the time it seems the CPU magically complete every pass to a man under the rim and lay it up. I usually alternate between 2-3 zone, man to man, and 1-3-1 defenses.

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                • busdriver630
                  Rookie
                  • Aug 2012
                  • 78

                  #9
                  Re: JA Money's Next-Gen OneandOnly Realism Sliders!

                  Played my first game using these sliders OKC(me) vs Atlanta. I blew them out 108-82 plays pretty well will play some more using these sliders and post more scores

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                  • JA Money14
                    Banned
                    • Mar 2012
                    • 0

                    #10
                    Re: JA Money's Next-Gen OneandOnly Realism Sliders!

                    Originally posted by warhawks
                    I love the sliders. I'm hoping to get some box scores soon. Until then, what is a good tip to keep the CPU from dominating me in the paint? More than half of the time it seems the CPU magically complete every pass to a man under the rim and lay it up. I usually alternate between 2-3 zone, man to man, and 1-3-1 defenses.
                    Defense, defense, defense.
                    Its tough at first but it's a necessity. If I toned down the sliders to a point there they didn't take advantage of bad defense, then it would be far too easy.

                    Keep working my man.

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                    • mr401k
                      Rookie
                      • Jul 2013
                      • 48

                      #11
                      Re: JA Money's Next-Gen OneandOnly Realism Sliders!

                      Nice sliders so far, but the 3 pt cheese on both my team and the opposing team is still pretty ridiculous. One other note is that bench player bugs like Matt Bonner are still making that ridiculous baseline fade away in the post, but I guess that will never be fixed. Any suggestions for toning down the 3pt cheese? I can't use any other defense but M2M since the cpu can break it down easily.

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                      • busdriver630
                        Rookie
                        • Aug 2012
                        • 78

                        #12
                        Re: JA Money's Next-Gen OneandOnly Realism Sliders!

                        Played my 2nd game using these sliders alot closer than the previous game.OKC(me)vs Memphis i won 83-80. So far 2 games one close and one a blowout so far so good.

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                        • tonyt8605
                          Rookie
                          • Oct 2011
                          • 353

                          #13
                          Re: JA Money's Next-Gen OneandOnly Realism Sliders!

                          Philosophical question: Why do some slider creators start with All Star, Superstar and Hall of Fame? In other words, why do people either/or?

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                          • lere2001
                            Pro
                            • Jun 2010
                            • 555

                            #14
                            Re: JA Money's Next-Gen OneandOnly Realism Sliders!

                            Using your sliders and your rosters: Just lost 100-93 against the Clippers with the Thunder. One thing that stuck out for me was that errant passes on easy few foot passes were way too common. Here are some stats

                            Team Stats:
                            Clippers on Left (CPU), Thunder on Right (Me)

                            Points 100 - 93
                            FGs 44/92 (48%) - 35/77 (45%)
                            3pts 4/16 (25%) - 5/17 (29%)
                            FTs 8/15 (53%) - 18/25 (72%)
                            Dunks 7 - 11
                            Fast Break 23 - 6
                            In the paint 64 - 38
                            Second Chance 6 - 8
                            Bench Points 17 - 17
                            Assists 32 - 24
                            ORs 8 - 8
                            DRs 35 - 42
                            Stls 14 - 5
                            Blks 3 - 11
                            TOs 9 - 19
                            Team Fouls 19 - 12
                            ToP 21:53 - 26:06

                            Top Performers:
                            Kevin Durant: 33 pts, 10 reb, 2 ast, 1 blk, 13-27 FG
                            Serge Ibaka: 21 pts, 15 reb, 2 ast, 8-11 FG

                            Jamal Crawford: 26 pts, 5 reb, 4 ast, 12-23 FG
                            Blake Griffin: 23 pts, 14 reb, 3 ast, 3 stls, 1 blk, 10-17 FG

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                            • busdriver630
                              Rookie
                              • Aug 2012
                              • 78

                              #15
                              Re: JA Money's Next-Gen OneandOnly Realism Sliders!

                              JA i like these sliders alot played my third game with them here are some stats

                              OKC (me) / Lakers (cpu)

                              Points 94 / 83
                              Field goals 39/84. 34/79
                              3 pointers 4/15. 6/23
                              Free throws 12/15. 9/14
                              Dunks 8. / 0
                              Fast break points 10 /14
                              PIp. 54/ 18
                              Bench points 34 /17
                              Assists. 19 / 20
                              Off Reb. 6 /5
                              Def Reb. 38 / 40
                              Steals. 7 / 4
                              Blocks. 5 / 3
                              Turnovers. 8 / 12

                              K. Durant. 13 / 26. 32 points 8Rebs 3 assists
                              R. Westbrook 4 /14 11 points. 5 assists 2 TO


                              K.Bryant. 8/18. 20 points. 12 Rebs
                              N. Young 8/19. 18 points. 4 Rebs 4 assists

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