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  • Moose24x
    Pro
    • Jan 2012
    • 502

    #1

    NHL14 Player Face Suggestions - Help Us!

    Help us create more accurate rosters for the NHL 14 Revamped project.

    EDIT: For reference, the most complete list of facial edits is available at the following link:

    https://docs.google.com/document/d/1...w0/mobilebasic

    I have continued tinkering with appearances and adding players since that list was last updated, but I will update it in the coming days so that the revamped rosters are as accurate as possible.






    I'm currently using the editor to go through the entire database for the game and edit the appearance of all the players who don't look like themselves. It's a daunting task because, while I am fairly familiar with the regulars on every team in the league, I'm not going to remember every facial detail of every player. This means that as I go through the list I am doing a google image search of each player and comparing their appearance to the faces in the game (I have my PS3 on in the creation center while I work in the database; I'm literally just searching a player, grabbing the controller and then going through the game to find an appropriate face).

    Anyhow, I figured that you all should know the players on the teams you cheer for a bit better than I know them. For example, when it came time to edit the Rangers' faces, I breezed through it because that's my team. So, what I'd really appreciate, if you want this project to move a bit faster (I've only done 10 teams so far, and I'll go back to the ones I've completed if I get good suggestions), is if you're unhappy with the appearance of certain players on your team go through the game, make note of the faces you think are more appropriate and post up a list on here of the players and what faces you think they should have. You don't have to stick to the guys on your NHL roster; you can do prospects and guys in your system as well.

    Once you do that, I can easily convert the face #s you provide into the code the database uses and go through the entire league applying the edits. It won't take anyone particularly long to do their own team, but it takes me about 30-60 minutes per team with looking up all of the player and prospects for accuracy.


    EDIT - Here's the list of players I've done so far:

    Tim Gleason 10165
    Fedor Tyutin 10089
    Brad Marchand 10031
    Drew Stafford 10038
    Ville Leino 10145
    David Perron 10035
    Mikhail Grabovski 10047
    Troy Brouwer 10057
    Brooks Laich 10010
    Eric Fehr 10004
    Jay Beagle 10140
    Karl Alzner 10045
    John Carlson 10126
    Arron Volpatti 10058
    Tomas Kundratek 10128
    Michael Latta 10117
    Dmitry Orlov 10044
    Tom Wilson 10151
    Connor Carrick 10134
    Andrew Alberts 10077
    Brad Richardson 10044
    Mike Santorelli 10003
    Yannick Weber 10035
    David Booth 10106
    Jannik Hansen 10171
    Jason Garrison 10048
    Frankie Corrado 10151
    Chris Tanev 10060
    Nicklas Jensen 10167
    Bo Horvat 10134
    Hunter Shinkaruk 10128
    Mason Raymond 10020
    Tyler Bozak 10140
    David Clarkson 10045
    Dave Bolland 10024
    JM Liles 10112
    Colton Orr 10084
    Jay McClement 10106
    Carl Gunnarsson 10129
    Jonathan Bernier 10018
    Nikolai Kulemin 10122
    Paul Ranger 10071
    Carter Ashton 10179
    David Broll 10053
    Pierre-Cedric Labrie 10170
    Matt Carle 10126
    Teddy Purcell 10040
    Anders Lindback 10079
    Richard Panik 10142
    Ondrej Palat 10136
    Alexander Killorn 10009
    Radko Gudas 10091
    Tyler Johnson 10143
    Vladislav Namestnikov 10153
    JT Brown 10181
    Adam Burish 10058
    Brent Burns 10038
    Tyler Kennedy 10032
    Matt Irwin 10109
    Tomas Hertl 10154
    Mirco Mueller 10161
    Keith Aucoin 10035
    Maxim Lapierre 10041
    Magnus Paajarvi 10155
    Jaroslav Halak 10116
    Ryan Reaves 10096
    Ian Cole 10050
    Kevin Shattenkirk 10164
    Jaden Schwartz 10171
    Rob Scuderi 10145
    Matt D'Agostini 10005
    Jussi Jokinen 10142
    Chris Kunitz 10023
    Brooks Orpik 10145
    Deryk Engelland 10079
    Matt Niskanen 10085
    Brandon Sutter 10141
    Simon Despres 10117
    Beau Bennett 10050
    Brian Dumoulin 10166
    Scott Harrington 10154
    Olli Maatta 10164
    Derrick Pouliot 10146
    David Moss 10003
    Rostislav Klesla 10009
    Zbynek Michalek 10030
    Lauri Korpikoski 10120
    Martin Hanzal 10024
    David Rundblad 10153
    Hal Gill 10103
    Braydon Coburn 10171
    Andrej Meszaros 10025
    Max Talbot 10001
    Brayden Schenn 10167
    Matt Read 10152
    Marc Methot 10162
    Craig Anderson 10006
    Chris Neil 10012
    Zack Smith 10154
    Erik Condra 10077
    Jared Cowen 10146
    Jean-Gabriel Pageau 10143
    Colin Greening 10045
    Eric Gryba 10018
    Patrick Wiercioch 10029
    Dominic Moore 10172
    Ryan Callahan 10176
    Arron Asham 10075
    Taylor Pyatt 10100
    Anton Stralman 10167
    Mats Zuccarello 10046
    Justin Falk 10116
    Ryan McDonagh 10026
    Carl Hagelin 10164
    Benoit Pouliot 10031
    Stu Bickel 10103
    JT Miller 10030
    Jesper Fast 10142
    PM Bouchard 10026
    Lubomir Visnovsky 10024
    Andrew MacDonald 10116
    Josh Bailey 10106
    Matt Martin 10037
    Thomas Hickey 10171
    Brian Strait 10033
    Travis Hamonic 10147
    Ryan Strome 10176
    Ryan Pulock 10158
    Griffin Reinhart 10167

    The codes above are the player face number in the game, converted into three digits and minus 1 (ie. #9 is 008, #89 is 088, #114 is 113). After that you just put a 10 in front. So face #47 is 10046. Face # 104 is 10103. You guys can just provide the face number; I'll convert it myself. This is just in case you wanted to check the edits I've already done in the game.

    EDIT - Just Added:

    Brendan Dillon
    Stephane Robidas
    Alex Goligoski
    Antoine Roussell
    Alex Chiasson
    Erik Cole
    Cody Eakin
    Vernon Fiddler
    Ryan Garbutt
    Rich Peverley
    Tyler Biggs
    James Reimer
    Morgan Rielly
    Frederick Gauthier
    Matt Read - 10086
    Tuukka Rask - 10040
    Nick Bonino - 10035
    Emerson Etem - 10091
    Viktor Fasth - 10173
    John Gibson - 10140
    Jonas Hiller - 10158
    Hampus Lindholm - 10167
    Kyle Palmieri - 10019
    Sami Vatanen - 10003
    Luke Gazdic - 10048
    Patrick Bordeleau - 10053
    Steve McIntyre - 10070
    Matt Kassian - 10118
    Frazer McClaren - 10124
    Josh Gorges -10019


    I'll also be adding these cybers, thanks to dan_nee:

    Jussi Jokinen - 3524
    John Michael Liles - 532
    Brad Boyes - 103
    Alex Tanguay - 951

    I'll add face numbers later for those I didn't write down.
    Last edited by Moose24x; 10-15-2013, 08:23 PM.
  • leafnut24
    Rookie
    • Sep 2012
    • 74

    #2
    Re: NHL14 Player Face Suggestions - Help Us!

    I had about 20 suggestions, but you've covered them all, fantastic start. This is gonna be a fun year for NHL gaming.

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    • Moose24x
      Pro
      • Jan 2012
      • 502

      #3
      Re: NHL14 Player Face Suggestions - Help Us!

      I just wanted to add, it doesn't matter how insignificant the player is or how long shot of a prospect they are. If you make a suggestion for a new face for them I'll change it. If they're a really insignificant AHL call up type guy though, and you don't make a suggestion, I'll probably skip them because of the time it would take to look them up and find a good face. But anything you suggest, no matter who the player, will get in the game.

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      • Dougie_G_93
        Pro
        • Oct 2011
        • 576

        #4
        Re: NHL14 Player Face Suggestions - Help Us!

        only 1 for the leafs I see missing is Tyler Biggs, i suggest face # 138 (ea #) what about eye color? biggs has brn eyes.... Will check the Marlies later....
        But great work

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        • Moose24x
          Pro
          • Jan 2012
          • 502

          #5
          Re: NHL14 Player Face Suggestions - Help Us!

          I haven't messed with eye color yet as its more minute. I want to get to a playable state first.

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          • dlxsf18
            Rookie
            • Jul 2013
            • 184

            #6
            Re: NHL14 Player Face Suggestions - Help Us!

            Thanks for doing this, the revamped project has me really excited. One thing I want to ask you, though- what field name have you been using to change player faces? Here's a photo of Crosby's db id that archibalduk posted in your other thread:



            Notice how DaPp (head id), Nzao (audio), and mOl (art id) are all 1082 in field value. I'm guessing that's the number that corresponds to Crosby specific commentary and facial detail... what I'm trying to get at here is that if you play around with mOl you might be able to give someone else Crosby's cyberface, assuming that is the field name that changes actual player faces, correct? I suggest you try that and let us know if that works...

            I'm getting ahead of myself here but in theory and with enough time you might be able to find the cybers of not only Crosby, or other players who have them, but any other players not shown in the game who are still lingering in the database because of them previously being in the series. So for example if Joe Sakic or Mike Modano, who were in NHL 09 and had real faces, were still in the database, you could take their head id's and slap them on a created player and voila, 2 new legends...

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            • Moose24x
              Pro
              • Jan 2012
              • 502

              #7
              Re: NHL14 Player Face Suggestions - Help Us!

              It's super easy to figure out the code of everyone's cyber. They follow a different pattern. I could give everyone on Pittsburgh Sid's face right now if I wanted. I haven't found the hidden players yet but I will be looking. I've only been working in the NHL and prospect pools so far.

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              • Moose24x
                Pro
                • Jan 2012
                • 502

                #8
                Re: NHL14 Player Face Suggestions - Help Us!

                Just got home from two-a-days in the gym. I've got practice in 5 hours, but now I'm working on the faces again in between. Edited the list up top with some new additions.

                I could really use/appreciate some help, even if your team is already done, if anyone wants to grab a team like Anaheim, Boston, Buffalo, etc. (teams from the beginning of the alphabet so we don't overlap) and look through the faces in game/the portraits on the website to make some suggestions. It speeds things up tremendously when you can just input the data and don't have to research each face.

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                • dlxsf18
                  Rookie
                  • Jul 2013
                  • 184

                  #9
                  Re: NHL14 Player Face Suggestions - Help Us!

                  Originally posted by Moose24x
                  Just got home from two-a-days in the gym. I've got practice in 5 hours, but now I'm working on the faces again in between. Edited the list up top with some new additions.

                  I could really use/appreciate some help, even if your team is already done, if anyone wants to grab a team like Anaheim, Boston, Buffalo, etc. (teams from the beginning of the alphabet so we don't overlap) and look through the faces in game/the portraits on the website to make some suggestions. It speeds things up tremendously when you can just input the data and don't have to research each face.
                  Will do. I hope you figure out where these lost cybers are, maybe you'll find some legends like Rafalski, Lidstrom, Niedermeyer, Morenz, Lafleur
                  Beliveau, Richard, etc. Would love to have those guys back in the series.

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                  • ExposGotRobbed94
                    Rookie
                    • Jan 2013
                    • 23

                    #10
                    Re: NHL14 Player Face Suggestions - Help Us!

                    Alex Galchenyuks face was added in a roster update, is it possible to add him?

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                    • Phil Parent
                      Rookie
                      • Jun 2013
                      • 492

                      #11
                      Re: NHL14 Player Face Suggestions - Help Us!

                      A good way to find them would be to dig in the old games savefiles and check what was their ID, then check if it's in use this year and if not, try it on a player and see what happens.

                      Or randomly try unused numbers, that works too!

                      Let's see, I changed alfredsson Head, Art and Audio ID from 10 to 9 which is unused, let's see what I get.

                      Also, changed his name to Mystery Man, because why not, right? If I get something the name will be between Afinogenov and Allen alphabetically.

                      EDIT: I got Nikita Alexeev's picture, but the game crashed when trying to access his profile. I'm thinking they removed his head from the game so it can't load his model. It goes in-game though, and the model has NO HEAD. The model has a floating helmet with nothing under it. And the audio is in.

                      So I'm not too hopeful for gamefaces, but you might find pictures in there.
                      Last edited by Phil Parent; 10-04-2013, 09:49 PM.

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                      • ExposGotRobbed94
                        Rookie
                        • Jan 2013
                        • 23

                        #12
                        Re: NHL14 Player Face Suggestions - Help Us!

                        Head 20 makes an ok Josh Gorges

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                        • dlxsf18
                          Rookie
                          • Jul 2013
                          • 184

                          #13
                          Re: NHL14 Player Face Suggestions - Help Us!

                          Originally posted by Phil Parent
                          A good way to find them would be to dig in the old games savefiles and check what was their ID, then check if it's in use this year and if not, try it on a player and see what happens.

                          Or randomly try unused numbers, that works too!

                          Let's see, I changed alfredsson Head, Art and Audio ID from 10 to 9 which is unused, let's see what I get.

                          Also, changed his name to Mystery Man, because why not, right? If I get something the name will be between Afinogenov and Allen alphabetically.

                          EDIT: I got Nikita Alexeev's picture, but the game crashed when trying to access his profile. I'm thinking they removed his head from the game so it can't load his model. It goes in-game though, and the model has NO HEAD. The model has a floating helmet with nothing under it. And the audio is in.

                          So I'm not too hopeful for gamefaces, but you might find pictures in there.
                          Wow that's pretty strange. lol

                          Did Nikita Alexeev have a cyberface? If he did I guess there's no hope looking for the faces of any non-active players. But there's still some other things you can try though- maybe you can use that strategy of looking at the previous game's art and head id's to try and get Jussi Jokinen, Alex Tanguay, Brad Boyes, Jamie Langenbrunner, and John Michael-Liles their real faces back?

                          And this idea is one I was saving for when I could get everything working on my end, but it doesn't look like things are gonna work out anytime soon so I'll pass on my thoughts to you guys.

                          As you may have seen in the NHL 14 Player Faces List thread, on page 8 I posted a huge list of guys who have been scanned by EA at the last three rookie showcases, only to not have their cybers included during release. However, there is a handful of guys who have attended those rookie showcases and who have cybers. I'm thinking that there's a chance the faces of the 62 guys who went are in the database...

                          Maybe if you took the id's of the players who have been scanned at the rookie showcases and who have cybers, then found a common link between those numbers, you could figure out if those 62 unused cybers are in the game. I bet I haven't explained this very well, but if one of you guys with the editor up and running could just post the cyberface field values of the following players I might be able to help.

                          Jake Gardiner
                          Mika Zibanejad
                          Zach Kassian
                          Nail Yakupov
                          Alex Galchenyuk
                          Ryan Murray
                          Sean Monahan
                          Cory Conacher
                          Nathan MacKinnon

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                          • 11152779
                            Rookie
                            • Sep 2013
                            • 21

                            #14
                            Re: NHL14 Player Face Suggestions - Help Us!

                            Originally posted by dlxsf18
                            .

                            Jake Gardiner
                            Mika Zibanejad
                            Zach Kassian
                            Nail Yakupov
                            Alex Galchenyuk
                            Ryan Murray
                            Sean Monahan
                            Cory Conacher
                            Nathan MacKinnon


                            Jake Gardiner 8737
                            Mika Zibanejad 8488
                            Zach Kassian 6725
                            Nail Yakupov 7836
                            Alex Galchenyuk 7832
                            Ryan Murray 5815
                            Sean Monahan 7797
                            Cory Conacher 8779
                            Nathan MacKinnon 9179
                            Jonathan Drouin 59999
                            Seth Jones 9746
                            Jonathan Huberdeau 7076

                            Hope it helps you out!

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                            • dan_nee
                              Just started!
                              • Mar 2013
                              • 2

                              #15
                              Re: NHL14 Player Face Suggestions - Help Us!

                              Originally posted by dlxsf18
                              Wow that's pretty strange. lol

                              Did Nikita Alexeev have a cyberface? If he did I guess there's no hope looking for the faces of any non-active players. But there's still some other things you can try though- maybe you can use that strategy of looking at the previous game's art and head id's to try and get Jussi Jokinen, Alex Tanguay, Brad Boyes, Jamie Langenbrunner, and John Michael-Liles their real faces back?

                              And this idea is one I was saving for when I could get everything working on my end, but it doesn't look like things are gonna work out anytime soon so I'll pass on my thoughts to you guys.

                              As you may have seen in the NHL 14 Player Faces List thread, on page 8 I posted a huge list of guys who have been scanned by EA at the last three rookie showcases, only to not have their cybers included during release. However, there is a handful of guys who have attended those rookie showcases and who have cybers. I'm thinking that there's a chance the faces of the 62 guys who went are in the database...

                              Maybe if you took the id's of the players who have been scanned at the rookie showcases and who have cybers, then found a common link between those numbers, you could figure out if those 62 unused cybers are in the game. I bet I haven't explained this very well, but if one of you guys with the editor up and running could just post the cyberface field values of the following players I might be able to help.

                              Jake Gardiner
                              Mika Zibanejad
                              Zach Kassian
                              Nail Yakupov
                              Alex Galchenyuk
                              Ryan Murray
                              Sean Monahan
                              Cory Conacher
                              Nathan MacKinnon
                              I can confirm that the following players STILL have their cyberfaces within the game. You will need to change their Head ID to the the corresponding numbers.

                              Jussi Jokinen - 3524
                              John Michael Liles - 532
                              Brad Boyes - 103
                              Alex Tanguay - 951

                              In regards to potential "hidden cyberfaces", I tried changing Leo Komarov's (attended 2012 rookie showcase and did have his face scanned) Head ID to match his Art and Audio ID. However, when I tried to edit the player within the game, the PS3 system froze.

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