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  • BenGerman
    No Place Better
    • Sep 2008
    • 2752

    #1

    A Heartbreaking Update On NCAA

    Wednesday night, he was having anxiety attacks over his designs for next year's game. Thursday afternoon, it didn't matter; his title was canceled. And


    What was going on with NCAA/College Football 15? Howell says he and Luhr had, for a time, been working for a few years on a customization suite for the series that he believes would have gotten the greenlight in the coming title, which was to be developed for both the current console generation and the next generation. Howell, who speaks admiringly of Minecraft, Terraria and other games with a heavy modification culture, said the idea was to turn the game over to fans, on the faith they know best what they most enjoy.P

    Not only would that have entailed an overhaul of the existing customizer—TeamBuilder, which deals with single teams—the vision extended to things like stadium construction, layer editing for uniforms, and even "D&D" like settings within the game's dynasty mode. For example, creating stories and occurrences elsewhere in the season, like a backup coming out of nowhere when a star performer goes down to injury, or a prestige team suffering a losing streak that upends the rankings at the end of the year.P

    It's unclear how much of this was actually being prepared for next year's game. Howell cautioned that the customization was at a big picture stage, though he and Luhr had design documents dozens of pages thick laying out these features. If College Football 15 could have shipped, with them, the depth of customization—and the ability to share uniforms, complex logos and user-built stadia—could have soothed the sting of conferences like the Pac-12 and Big Ten pulling their trademarks from the series, and a big program—believed to be Ohio State—exiting it altogether.P

    "I was talking to my mom a week ago saying, 'I cannot tell you how excited I am for this game,'" Howell said. "I've always known, and believed, that users now are creating things that you (as a designer) could never possibly imagine. So we need to put the game in their hands. We're not big enough to give them everything they want. If we gave them the actual parts of our game and its assets—yeah, it's a huge liability that someone could make something better than we're making. But that's not the point of it."P

    Howell said the customization focus, conceivably a lifeboat in a future where no NCAA school licenses its appearance in a video game, was not ramped up as a response to the litigation. "This was started way before any of these lawsuits," he said. Still, there's always been an idealist streak in his conversations with me, and I question whether EA Sports itself would be willing to give such control over to its fans. Where's the money in that?


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  • The JareBear
    Be Good To One Another
    • Jul 2010
    • 11560

    #2
    Re: A Heartbreaking Update On NCAA

    Wow, very interesting read.
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    • dickey1331
      Everyday is Faceurary!
      • Sep 2009
      • 14285

      #3
      Re: A Heartbreaking Update On NCAA

      Damn. What could have been.
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      • BenGerman
        No Place Better
        • Sep 2008
        • 2752

        #4
        Re: A Heartbreaking Update On NCAA

        It's a darn shame. At the same time, it gives me hope for the future. There are people who care about making a college football game, and are obviously aware that there is a consumer base that is willing to customize for authenticity.

        I know my word counts for zilch, but we'll see a college football game again at some point.
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        • Gotmadskillzson
          Live your life
          • Apr 2008
          • 23414

          #5
          Re: A Heartbreaking Update On NCAA

          So what ever happened to Bumble14 ? Did he get a spot on the Madden team or did he get the axe ? Same thing with ChaseB, he was on the Madden team, did he get the axe to make room for somebody from the NCAA team coming over ?

          I mean hell if they let Alex Howell and Adam Thompson go, then nobody really is safe from the axe. Adam Thompson been on the team for a LONG TIME. I remember when he use to post on these boards when NCAA 08 and 09 was out.

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          • mtoo22
            Hail West Virginia
            • Dec 2005
            • 1075

            #6
            Re: A Heartbreaking Update On NCAA

            We are really left with the task of carrying on what should be in a future game (which I believe there will be). There were a ton of ideas that came from OS, tGT and other sites like it.

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            • bjb2445
              Pro
              • Jan 2013
              • 582

              #7
              Re: A Heartbreaking Update On NCAA

              Yep a definite shame.

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              • EricFreakingBerry
                Rookie
                • Jul 2010
                • 382

                #8
                Re: A Heartbreaking Update On NCAA

                Branch off, merge with another company with some vision, and give us the customizable generic football game we want then. There's really no point to hearing what "could have been" if they aren't going to go make it happen. If they want to do it bad enough, they will. I have my doubts.

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                • ehh
                  Hall Of Fame
                  • Mar 2003
                  • 28959

                  #9
                  Re: A Heartbreaking Update On NCAA

                  If it's that customizable then launch it anyway with completely generic teams/uniforms/stadiums.
                  "You make your name in the regular season, and your fame in the postseason." - Clyde Frazier

                  "Beware of geeks bearing formulas." - Warren Buffet

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                  • R1zzo23
                    Cupcake Coach
                    • Jul 2005
                    • 5694

                    #10
                    Re: A Heartbreaking Update On NCAA

                    Originally posted by ehh
                    If it's that customizable then launch it anyway with completely generic teams/uniforms/stadiums.
                    A generic game that is fully customizable will be just as good as what they have now. With the dedicated people on these forums, we would have NCAA 15 for sure. What a shame...

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                    • ehh
                      Hall Of Fame
                      • Mar 2003
                      • 28959

                      #11
                      Re: A Heartbreaking Update On NCAA

                      I imagine it'd be vastly superior given we had full customization. The attention to detail of the community is x10 that of EA's dev team. More accurate uniforms, equipment, footballs, sidelines, stadiums, music, crowd, etc.
                      "You make your name in the regular season, and your fame in the postseason." - Clyde Frazier

                      "Beware of geeks bearing formulas." - Warren Buffet

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                      • tbennett54
                        Rookie
                        • Jul 2008
                        • 345

                        #12
                        Re: A Heartbreaking Update On NCAA

                        It is a shame, but I think all of the customize talk is BS. This is EA we are talking about.

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                        • EricFreakingBerry
                          Rookie
                          • Jul 2010
                          • 382

                          #13
                          Re: A Heartbreaking Update On NCAA

                          Originally posted by tbennett54
                          It is a shame, but I think all of the customize talk is BS. This is EA we are talking about.
                          This is kind of what I am getting at; it's really easy to talk about what you *wanted* to do or tell people what they *wanted* to hear now that the doors have been closed and development halted. I feel bad for the people that lost their jobs, but in the end we're talking about a company that left bugs and barebones features in a game for an entire gaming generation. I don't believe that a fully featured customization suite is what the end result would've been had the lawsuits not arisen.

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                          • BadAssHskr
                            XSX
                            • Jun 2003
                            • 3504

                            #14
                            Re: A Heartbreaking Update On NCAA

                            Originally posted by ehh
                            If it's that customizable then launch it anyway with completely generic teams/uniforms/stadiums.
                            yes, this. hell do it as a download for PC. Time to get NCAA football Next started already.
                            "Not the victory but the action. Not the goal but the game. In the deed the glory."

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                            • Clemsonpanther
                              MVP
                              • Apr 2012
                              • 1028

                              #15
                              Re: A Heartbreaking Update On NCAA

                              This makes me so mad. Ed OBannon, what a jerk you are. And that is very heavily censored.

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