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  • Akermanmrdelete
    Banned
    • Feb 2012
    • 9

    #1

    PS3 2013/2014 Roster Project

    I am thinking about trying to get a roster set out for next season. The idea being to use past statistics, some preseason mags, and community input to get a really accurate roster set. Along with this, also go through and edit coaches, team colors, etc. I have already put some time in but before I get too crazy I wanted to know what the interest level was. I would hope to get some feedback along the way to make this a true community effort. What do you guys think?
  • WeinerSnuggie249
    Rookie
    • Jul 2011
    • 31

    #2
    Re: PS3 2013/2014 Roster Project

    I have actually slowly started this already. Let me know if you want to throw some ideas back and forth.
    Ohio State Buckeyes
    Pittsburgh Pirates
    Pittsburgh Steelers
    Pittsburgh Penguins
    North Carolina Tar Heels

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    • Akermanmrdelete
      Banned
      • Feb 2012
      • 9

      #3
      Re: PS3 2013/2014 Roster Project

      Great. I am curious as to your method of rating players, after looking at it I think this is the biggest issue with any roster set. I have looked at several different roster threads and their seems to be some different schools of thought in this. I am by no means a college basketball expert so I was leaning towards some sort of model based of statistics.

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      • raiderfan247365
        Pro
        • Sep 2009
        • 640

        #4
        Re: PS3 2013/2014 Roster Project

        Originally posted by Akermanmr
        Great. I am curious as to your method of rating players, after looking at it I think this is the biggest issue with any roster set. I have looked at several different roster threads and their seems to be some different schools of thought in this. I am by no means a college basketball expert so I was leaning towards some sort of model based of statistics.
        Keep it simple is the key, ya a formula is great but stats dont tell you everything, there are plenty of guys shooting 30% from 3 pt range that are better shooters than that and guys that shoot 40% who are not that great of shooters. Some keys that I use are:
        -38-40% 3pt and shoots at least 2-3 a game get an 80+ rating
        -FT% - if someone shoots 75% he gets an 80 rating, 80% he gets a 85 rating.
        -If a big man shoots 55% or better with at least 6 or so shots a game, he gets an 85+ close shot range.
        -If a player avgs 1 steal a game he get a 75, 2 steals= 80, 2+ steals= 80+.
        -Rebounding, if a player avgs 10 per game or close to it he gets 85+ for both off and def rebounding.
        -Ratings such as "Lay-Up" are harder to quantify, kinda gotta watch some games or at least be familiar with some players, but its safe to assume most guards have decent lay-up skills .
        -Overall player ratings go something like this, just an example, ACC conference gets an avg "All-Conference" player rating of 80+, while a leage like the Big Sky might avg 74 for players dubbed "All Conference"
        -But one thing you have to remember is that we are all human with natural bias and opinions, so its always going to be skewed for the creator, doesnt mean you cant put together a kick-a** set, just means your personal feeling will be reflected somewhat.
        -Its a good idea to have a scale for Freshmen as well, ie. ESPN or Rivals Grade = what. 99-95 = 80-88 or something like that. But I wouldnt rate freshmen any lower than ~55 or they will just get recruited over and never really play in legacies, also I would put everyones potential to at least 78-80, otherwise they will not improve at all basically.
        -Offensive and Defensive awareness are the single most important attribute that will affect a players overall rating, I like to rate a players skills first then go back and tweak awareness to get the desired overall.

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        • WeinerSnuggie249
          Rookie
          • Jul 2011
          • 31

          #5
          Re: PS3 2013/2014 Roster Project

          Thanks for the info Raiderfan, ratings are def. a tough thing to judge.
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          • vtcrb
            Hall Of Fame
            • Nov 2006
            • 10286

            #6
            Re: PS3 2013/2014 Roster Project

            Originally posted by Akermanmr
            Great. I am curious as to your method of rating players, after looking at it I think this is the biggest issue with any roster set. I have looked at several different roster threads and their seems to be some different schools of thought in this. I am by no means a college basketball expert so I was leaning towards some sort of model based of statistics.

            The easiest way to do it would be Pick 2 teams. Edit both fully, including Coaching Profiles. Then watch a CPU vs CPU game. Then after you watch game, do 2 things. 1st being look at stats and the 2nd being decide if you thought the guys played like they do in Real Life. If you decide they looked good then you have a BASE to use when Editing other teams.
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            • cigarettefred
              Rookie
              • Jan 2013
              • 26

              #7
              Re: PS3 2013/2014 Roster Project

              Im a huge fan of college basketball and would love to help out

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              • ticats8
                Rookie
                • Sep 2011
                • 348

                #8
                Re: PS3 2013/2014 Roster Project

                I'm down to help out!

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                • WeinerSnuggie249
                  Rookie
                  • Jul 2011
                  • 31

                  #9
                  Re: PS3 2013/2014 Roster Project

                  Thank you to everyone who is willing to help out with this project. What I am currently in the process of doing now, is what I call wave 1, basically taking the base set/original rosters on the game and editing everything except for ratings. Since the 2k servers are no longer up and running, the best way for anyone to help, would be to choose a conference, and create a spreadsheet of the teams rosters.

                  Include in the spreadsheet:
                  Player Name
                  jersey no.
                  height/weight
                  hometown
                  year of eligibilty
                  transfer status
                  and any other misc. info that would be helpful. (left handed/accesories etc.)

                  Then get this spreadsheet to me via email and I will upload the info and do the faces for each player.

                  I already have the ACC, Big East, and Big Ten updated

                  If this still sounds like something you would like to help out with, please let me know. This is going to be a slow project and I'm pushing to have this done by the start of the 13-14 season. Thanks again!


                  Go Heels!
                  Ohio State Buckeyes
                  Pittsburgh Pirates
                  Pittsburgh Steelers
                  Pittsburgh Penguins
                  North Carolina Tar Heels

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                  • raiderfan247365
                    Pro
                    • Sep 2009
                    • 640

                    #10
                    Re: PS3 2013/2014 Roster Project

                    Originally posted by WeinerSnuggie249
                    Thank you to everyone who is willing to help out with this project. What I am currently in the process of doing now, is what I call wave 1, basically taking the base set/original rosters on the game and editing everything except for ratings. Since the 2k servers are no longer up and running, the best way for anyone to help, would be to choose a conference, and create a spreadsheet of the teams rosters.




                    Include in the spreadsheet:
                    Player Name
                    jersey no.
                    height/weight
                    hometown
                    year of eligibilty
                    transfer status
                    and any other misc. info that would be helpful. (left handed/accesories etc.)

                    Then get this spreadsheet to me via email and I will upload the info and do the faces for each player.

                    I already have the ACC, Big East, and Big Ten updated

                    If this still sounds like something you would like to help out with, please let me know. This is going to be a slow project and I'm pushing to have this done by the start of the 13-14 season. Thanks again!


                    Go Heels!
                    Wouldnt that be awesome for Ps3 owners if you got this completed! Just an observation and insight into my process (obviously you do your own thing, just thought id share, take it or leave it, no worries), spreadsheets are great and useful but if you think about it, it creates an extra step. I just have a computer in front of me with: The teams official athletic page, espn stat page from the prior year, and the espn/rival recruiting page for the team. Incoming recruits I try and watch at least a minute of youtbe footage to get an idea of shooting form and athletic ability, etc. And you said youre going in waves, which makes sense, the only thing I would say is that I have had more success doing everything at once for a team (changing seniors into new recruits, adding transfer, rating freshmen/transfers as well as adjusting current players on the roster based on season stats). Just sharing, not critiqueing your methods at all, im open to listening to anything that might make the process easier as well. Good Luck.

                    oh here is a spread sheet of transfers and draft entrees (minus some obvious entrees)
                    Last edited by raiderfan247365; 05-02-2013, 02:31 PM.

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                    • WeinerSnuggie249
                      Rookie
                      • Jul 2011
                      • 31

                      #11
                      Re: PS3 2013/2014 Roster Project

                      Raiderfan...thanks for the information. But the way you do is the exact way I do it. The spreadsheet idea was just a way that others could get involved. I figured it would save a lot of time and also let other people put some information into the project. I know a lot about college basketball, but of course not everything. Just figured that if someone from the West Coast was a hugh Pac 10 or 12 or whatever they are now, they would know more about those teams then I would. I do not like trying to pass around a roster file for the obvious reasons. But again, thanks a lot for the info. I could use all the help I can get.
                      Ohio State Buckeyes
                      Pittsburgh Pirates
                      Pittsburgh Steelers
                      Pittsburgh Penguins
                      North Carolina Tar Heels

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                      • strobox88
                        Rookie
                        • Feb 2012
                        • 429

                        #12
                        Re: PS3 2013/2014 Roster Project

                        I really like the idea of starting with the original rosters. I think as long as you don't edit Team names, teams like North Carolina St. won't end up "North Carolina S" and called home team instead of their actual team name. It may also prevent jersey glitches like Maryland's home and away jerseys. Every year for the PS3 the rosters have these problems.

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                        • beasta
                          Rookie
                          • Jul 2011
                          • 51

                          #13
                          Re: PS3 2013/2014 Roster Project

                          are people still working on this ?

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                          • WeinerSnuggie249
                            Rookie
                            • Jul 2011
                            • 31

                            #14
                            Re: PS3 2013/2014 Roster Project

                            Yes sir still working on it
                            Ohio State Buckeyes
                            Pittsburgh Pirates
                            Pittsburgh Steelers
                            Pittsburgh Penguins
                            North Carolina Tar Heels

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                            • beasta
                              Rookie
                              • Jul 2011
                              • 51

                              #15
                              Re: PS3 2013/2014 Roster Project

                              how long do you think it will be until you upload a roster set ?

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