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  • allgames
    Rookie
    • Jun 2004
    • 155

    #1

    Right fielder throwing out runner at first?

    I tried to search for this but couldn't find a thread about it.

    When the ball is hit hard to right field, the throw comes in and the first baseman will be 5 feet off the bag, but if he was at the bag, the runner would be out. I understand they are doing this to avoid lots of runners being thrown out from right, but why is this happening? Is the ball getting to the right fielder faster than in the real world? Is it the distance from right to first being too close? Is the runner running to slow? It's been an issue for a number of years.

    Also why does the first baseman do that same "set" animation when he gets the ball instead of catching it and moving in stride. If nobody is on base, they shouldn't be setting themselves planting both feet like that right?
  • Bobhead
    Pro
    • Mar 2011
    • 4926

    #2
    Re: Right fielder throwing out runner at first?

    The answer to the first question is yes.

    No but really, I think the main agitator is how fast fielders run. High-Speed fielders and this RF to 1B have both existed for a while, I have to think they are connected.

    I haven't actually had anyone thrown out at 1B though.

    I don't know what you're even asking with the second question sorry.

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    • I3RIS3H
      Pro
      • Jun 2011
      • 639

      #3
      Re: Right fielder throwing out runner at first?

      Yesterday I threw a guy out at 1st from RF by complete accident. Ball was hit to RF and then I pressed L1 (cut off) and he threw it right to 1st and the batter was out by a half step. Complete accident and it was the last thing I was expecting, but I'll take it.
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      • allgames
        Rookie
        • Jun 2004
        • 155

        #4
        Re: Right fielder throwing out runner at first?

        Originally posted by Bobhead
        The answer to the first question is yes.

        No but really, I think the main agitator is how fast fielders run. High-Speed fielders and this RF to 1B have both existed for a while, I have to think they are connected.

        I haven't actually had anyone thrown out at 1B though.

        I don't know what you're even asking with the second question sorry.
        Why can't they "fix" the speed and distance? It seems like the same thing every year. Seeing a first baseman standing around 5 feet away from the bag as the runner speeds to first and the right fielder tries to throw him out would never ever be seen in a real game.

        The other question is about the animation that occurs when the first baseman first gets the ball. There is an animation between catching it and throwing it that just seems awkward.

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        • Majingir
          Moderator
          • Apr 2005
          • 47282

          #5
          Re: Right fielder throwing out runner at first?

          I never had it happen to me in MLB13, but I did have times where RF would throw out a guy at 2nd(by force out).

          Cause the ball is hit for a ground ball(so the runner hesitates) and the RF gets the ball and manages to throw it to 2nd before my runner gets there

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          • pistolpete
            MVP
            • Jun 2004
            • 1816

            #6
            Re: Right fielder throwing out runner at first?

            Fielders react incredibly quickly and get rid of the ball incredibly quickly. The ball also moves incredibly fast.

            However, I don't think any of this negatively affects gameplay.

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            • edm18
              Rookie
              • Feb 2004
              • 218

              #7
              Re: Right fielder throwing out runner at first?

              I've always found fielder throwing, reaction, and speed too high at default. The first thing I usually do with the sliders is turn down throwing strength to 1. Fielder Reaction to 3. and Fielder Speed to 1 or 2. then adjust accordingly from there.
              Last edited by edm18; 03-29-2013, 12:20 AM.

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              • Aaron Rodgers
                Rookie
                • Feb 2005
                • 17

                #8
                Re: Right fielder throwing out runner at first?

                It does seem OF guys can cover a lot of ground and arms are even more over powered. For the canon throws the animation should have a longer windup and extra step.

                In other games it was press your luck. Should I round the bag and stretch this into extra bases?

                I almost never see an opening where I could extend a hit into a double.

                In MVP or High Heat baseball to screw around and have fun boosting throwing arms and zapping CPU running speed you could throw people out after taking a nap.

                I almost want to max throwing to see how Rookie Of The Year like it gets.
                Last edited by Aaron Rodgers; 03-29-2013, 12:18 AM.

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                • shadow2201
                  Rookie
                  • Mar 2013
                  • 446

                  #9
                  Re: Right fielder throwing out runner at first?

                  For me, I have this happen a lot, RF gets to the ball and throws the ball to 1B to get him out but 9 times out of 10 the throw will be "off" so the 1B will have to step off the bag to catch the ball! So I believe they do this to turn down the amount of times the player who hits the ball can be out in a situation like that! I have quite a few, hit hard to RF and I could get them out easy, but again the ball is "off" and it never happens!

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                  • TGov
                    MVP
                    • Mar 2012
                    • 1169

                    #10
                    Re: Right fielder throwing out runner at first?

                    Im using TNK Sliders (with some variations) and it seems to do the trick. Last years game I was actually trying to throw the runner out a first from a hit to right field... This year Ive tried to test it out and it seems different, however I did throw one guy out at first from right, he was kinda slow and it was hit pretty hard to my RF... overall, Im satisfied though, it does happen on the rare occasion IRL so its not crazy to see every once in a while...
                    My suggestion is to tinker with your fielding and base running sliders...

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                    • nomo17k
                      Permanently Banned
                      • Feb 2011
                      • 5735

                      #11
                      Re: Right fielder throwing out runner at first?

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                      I haven't seen this play being successfully made in MLB 12 yet, but I can see *if* the first baseman is actually ready to receive the throw from RF, this play could regularly happen.

                      I feel the main culprits are: (1) hits to RF (anywhere in the outfield really) used to be shots more often than not, making it easier for RFs to make this play... but this has been alleviated by the new ball physics producing more softly-hit base hits. (2) long throws are very strong and more accurate than IRL. I've always felt fielder throws are too strong, and have been wanting to measure fielder arm strengths but haven't come up with a good way to do this.... (3) RF probably tends to position himself closer to 1B than IRL, and even if the ball isn't necessarily hit directly at him, it's much easier in the game to get to the ball AND make a strong throw to 1B, both of which IRL isn't as easy.


                      ... however depending on how RF position himself, the distance between him and 1B isn't much longer than the deepest part of SS to 1B. so any shot hit directly at RF, he has a chance to make this play IRL.
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                      • dazzelle
                        Pro
                        • Oct 2008
                        • 684

                        #12
                        Re: Right fielder throwing out runner at first?

                        I play RF in RTTS and was going to ask for some tips on how to play the position in terms of decision making in certain situations, example runner on 2nd, should i go for 3rd, the cutoff guy or 1st.(can't wait till i can watch some real games to learn more).
                        Then i saw this thread and now i know why the 1st baseman is never on the bag. might just skip fielding now.

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                        • Cezar24
                          Banned
                          • Jan 2013
                          • 227

                          #13
                          Re: Right fielder throwing out runner at first?

                          The problem I'm running into is when I have a man on first and a ball is hit to the right fielder. My runner going from first to second will stop and hop over the ball using a very slow animation. With how fast the ball makes it to the fielder and how fast he fires it into second base, my runner is out by 5 feet. Had this happen a bunch already.

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                          • PlayDaFool
                            Rookie
                            • Mar 2010
                            • 58

                            #14
                            Re: Right fielder throwing out runner at first?

                            Originally posted by dazzelle
                            I play RF in RTTS and was going to ask for some tips on how to play the position in terms of decision making in certain situations, example runner on 2nd, should i go for 3rd, the cutoff guy or 1st.(can't wait till i can watch some real games to learn more).
                            Then i saw this thread and now i know why the 1st baseman is never on the bag. might just skip fielding now.

                            Always throw a base ahead. Runner on 1st, throw towards 3rd. Runner on 2nd or 3rd, hit the cutoff. NEVER throw to the base the runner is running to. Unless it's a slow runner trying to stretch, and you KNOW you have him. I played the majority of my baseball in the outfield.

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                            • Taffin
                              Rookie
                              • Apr 2010
                              • 77

                              #15
                              Re: Right fielder throwing out runner at first?

                              Originally posted by Cezar24
                              The problem I'm running into is when I have a man on first and a ball is hit to the right fielder. My runner going from first to second will stop and hop over the ball using a very slow animation. With how fast the ball makes it to the fielder and how fast he fires it into second base, my runner is out by 5 feet. Had this happen a bunch already.
                              This happens quite often to my LH RTTS player. I wish there was a faster animation.

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