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  • HustlinOwl
    All Star
    • Mar 2004
    • 9713

    #1

    Dev Journal: All or Nothing Guess Pitch in MLB 13 The Show

    The default Guess Pitch option is new in MLB 13. For many years now, Guess Pitch has been the topic of many heated discussions on forums and in the studio. The most common complaints were that Guess Pitch was unrealistic, potentially exploitative, and especially frustrating in Multiplayer games because it makes you approach at-bats very differently than you would if Guess Pitch was not a factor. On the flipside, many users really like the risk/reward aspect of the mechanic. We set out to provide a Guess Pitch system that maintains game elements of risk/reward, but is more realistic and still encourages users to think pitch-to-pitch about how/if they will utilize Guess Pitch.

    There are essentially 3 possibilities you have for guessing an incoming pitch: guess the Pitch Type (Fastball, Curveball, etc), guess the Pitch Location (down, up-and-in, etc.), or guess both Pitch Type AND Pitch Location. Our default Guess Pitch is different than previous Guess Pitch implementations because it is “All or Nothing”. In other words, ALL guesses you attempt on a single pitch must be correct to get ANY benefit from the system. For example, if you guess a Curveball Pitch Type, and the Low location, you will only see benefits from the system if it is BOTH a Curveball AND Location Low, otherwise you get no feedback or benefits.

    It’s obviously harder to guess Both Type AND Location than just one of the two, so there is a benefit for correctly guessing both. If you guess both accurately, you get your feedback much earlier than if you only attempt to guess one and are correct. As mentioned above, you MUST guess both correct to see any of the benefits.

    Let’s look at some examples…

    Example 1: I guess 4SFB (4-seam Fastball), I don’t guess a location. If correct, the ball flashes red out of the pitchers hand to notify me that the pitch is what I anticipated. See below for a screencap of the result.


    Example 2: I guess Location Low. I don’t guess a Pitch Type. If correct, the location flashes red when the ball leaves the pitchers hand and the user will lock-on to the location area. See below for a screencap of the result.


    Example 3: I guess BOTH 4SFB, and Location Low. If BOTH correct, I instantly lock-on when the pitcher starts his wind-up and the location and strike-zone blink red to notify me I am locked and loaded. See below for a screencap of the result.

    NOTE: In this new “All or Nothing” system, if you guess 1 right and not the other, you get nothing and like it.

  • ManiacMatt1782
    Who? Giroux!
    • Jul 2006
    • 3982

    #2
    Re: Dev Journal: All or Nothing Guess Pitch in MLB 13 The Show

    Example 2: I guess Location Low. I don’t guess a Pitch Type. If correct, the location flashes red when the ball leaves the pitchers hand and the user will lock-on to the location area. See below for a screencap of the result
    .

    This doesn't happen the way as described. The pci doesnt lock on. Personally I am glad it doesnt online, but i feel it should be fixed for our offline brothers who use guess pitch.



    vote it on up if you want your guess location lock on.
    Last edited by ManiacMatt1782; 03-12-2013, 05:13 PM.
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    • cemprae48
      Rookie
      • Dec 2009
      • 97

      #3
      Re: Dev Journal: All or Nothing Guess Pitch in MLB 13 The Show

      thoughtfully done... Thanks... and here's a question... With NO FEEDBACK guess pitch on... does it work the same way?... In other words.... Do I get a bonus when guess location only (and get it right) guess pitch only (and get it right) guess both (and get them right)...

      Also if the bonus is higher on NO FEEDBACK... Is the penalty the least when a wrong guess is made???

      Thanks

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      • ManiacMatt1782
        Who? Giroux!
        • Jul 2006
        • 3982

        #4
        Re: Dev Journal: All or Nothing Guess Pitch in MLB 13 The Show

        Very slight penalty on no feedback, bigger bonus
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        • jeffy777
          MVP
          • Jan 2009
          • 3317

          #5
          Re: Dev Journal: All or Nothing Guess Pitch in MLB 13 The Show

          I'm all for new options, but they should've left the classic option the way it was, at least for offline, since a lot of people have been using that for years and they aren't too happy that it was yanked from the game.

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          • Spaced Ace
            Rookie
            • Mar 2009
            • 289

            #6
            Re: Dev Journal: All or Nothing Guess Pitch in MLB 13 The Show

            I hate guess pitch. It takes the challenge out of hitting, IMO.
            "Don't be afraid to go to number 23, he's alright."

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            • thaSLAB
              [Player 1]
              • Feb 2008
              • 4495

              #7
              Re: Dev Journal: All or Nothing Guess Pitch in MLB 13 The Show

              Originally posted by ManiacMatt1782
              .

              This doesn't happen the way as described. The pci doesnt lock on. Personally I am glad it doesnt online, but i feel it should be fixed for our offline brothers who use guess pitch.



              vote it on up if you want your guess location lock on.
              Is that what they are saying? Or is the author saying he manually locks on to the zone when it flashes?

              And how different is it from years past? It doesn't seem that drastically changed... although, I'm totally ignorant of the subject as I've never used guess pitch. (well once, in order to try to get the psychic trophy a couple of years back.)
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              • ManiacMatt1782
                Who? Giroux!
                • Jul 2006
                • 3982

                #8
                Re: Dev Journal: All or Nothing Guess Pitch in MLB 13 The Show

                Guess pitch used to lock on location, and do it before the pitch was thrown so all you had to do was read if it was a strike, and time it correctly. Now the notification comes as the ball is released, and if you guess location alone and get it right, it does not lock on location like years passed.
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                • Carbon
                  Rookie
                  • Feb 2010
                  • 38

                  #9
                  Re: Dev Journal: All or Nothing Guess Pitch in MLB 13 The Show

                  Originally posted by Spaced Ace
                  I hate guess pitch. It takes the challenge out of hitting, IMO.
                  If only there was a way to avoid using it..

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                  • PadresFan104
                    Rookie
                    • Feb 2003
                    • 462

                    #10
                    Re: Dev Journal: All or Nothing Guess Pitch in MLB 13 The Show

                    Thanks for this thread! I usually only guess either one or the other (where it gives me the feedback too late for my poor reflexes), so I will have to try guessing both....

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                    • DarthRambo
                      MVP
                      • Mar 2008
                      • 6595

                      #11
                      Re: Dev Journal: All or Nothing Guess Pitch in MLB 13 The Show

                      Wow I did not know this! I have been frustrated with it because I am used to using Classic 1/4 option on guess pitch. Years past, if guessed one or the other it would tell you, this year it is all or nothing. Very frustrating to hit when you are used to it a certain way for years!

                      I did not know you could guess either the location or pitch type ONLY until now!! Question...if I choose classic 1/4, will it show up on screen with correct guesses the way it shows in the pics above??

                      Thanks for this!!! This will help make the game much more ejoyable now for me, love it!!
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                      • zack4070
                        Rookie
                        • Jul 2012
                        • 481

                        #12
                        Re: Dev Journal: All or Nothing Guess Pitch in MLB 13 The Show

                        I used to be all over the Guess Pitch option but now since Ive played without it I like it better without. It makes it more real. Now looking back, Guess Pitch is the equivalent to David Wright shouting out to Strasburg and asking if the next pitch is going to be a fastball or not (which never happens). The show 13 just made it that much more real to me!!!
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                        • Farmer joe
                          Rookie
                          • Aug 2008
                          • 237

                          #13
                          Re: Dev Journal: All or Nothing Guess Pitch in MLB 13 The Show

                          First time playing The Show since 06, I like this guess pitch. Doesn't feel cheap and helps you out if you do your homework at all important at bats.

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                          • tvman
                            MVP
                            • Nov 2010
                            • 1392

                            #14
                            Re: Dev Journal: All or Nothing Guess Pitch in MLB 13 The Show

                            Gotta say that I like too.

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                            • garyjr33
                              Pro
                              • Dec 2011
                              • 517

                              #15
                              Re: Dev Journal: All or Nothing Guess Pitch in MLB 13 The Show

                              I was frustrated by this being changed in the beginning but now I have gotten used to it and I like it. I am feel like I am becoming a better hitter too. I often just guess pitch type in certain situations (i.e. when I am looking for a fastball in a fastball count).
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