coach profiles are what matters now

[mj68]

OK, I have watched about 25 games and played over 15 games, and im starting to think general sliders do very little as far as game play and how the players play, its more about the coach profiles, and individual player sliders, the general sliders only need to be at 50 for the most part except for the fouls, and game speed 52, sliders dont do much, if you want to make the gameplay the same for most teams go into coach profiles and make a lot of the individual settings the same, but general sliders im afraid are not really making a difference, it depends on coach profiles, and the team you are playing with, try playing the 85 celtics than the 97 jazz and you will see night and day how the AI plays with both, it sucks we have to try all this slider bs, when the truth is 50 for com and user is just fine, except for fouls, hope this helps

[EccentricMeat]

Re: coach profiles are what matters now

OK, I have watched about 25 games and played over 15 games, and im starting to think general sliders do very little as far as game play and how the players play, its more about the coach profiles, and individual player sliders, the general sliders only need to be at 50 for the most part except for the fouls, and game speed 52, sliders dont do much, if you want to make the gameplay the same for most teams go into coach profiles and make a lot of the individual settings the same, but general sliders im afraid are not really making a difference, it depends on coach profiles, and the team you are playing with, try playing the 85 celtics than the 97 jazz and you will see night and day how the AI plays with both, it sucks we have to try all this slider bs, when the truth is 50 for com and user is just fine, except for fouls, hope this helps

I think the amount of people who say the game is "broken" without using one of the slider sets on here is proof that the default sliders are not "just fine".

Sliders do a LOT, and many of the sliders play off of each other. The sliders are so touchy this year that if you change one tendency by only a few clicks, it can completely throw off the gameplay. You have to find a perfect balance with everything in order to see the desired results.

I know you're trying to help, but there is just no way that EVERYONE who is seeing drastic changes as a result of using an OS slider set is seeing a placebo effect.

[mj68]

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i have not been using default sliders at all, that is the problem, i have tried different combos, the only thing that works is coach profiles in unison with individual player sliders, just watch a game with the 85 lakers against say the heat, then do the same with the 97 jazz, totally different gameplay with the same general sliders, i love the game im enjoying it im just saying all this slider testing on the general sliders does not work the way people think it does, im not questioning anyone who puts things like attack basket at 0 or run plays at 0, if you have those at 0 and you are still getting players attacking the basket, and plays are being at 0 that is proof the general sliders dont do crap, its about coach profiles

[EccentricMeat]

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i have not been using default sliders at all, that is the problem, i have tried different combos, the only thing that works is coach profiles in unison with individual player sliders, just watch a game with the 85 lakers against say the heat, then do the same with the 97 jazz, totally different gameplay with the same general sliders, i love the game im enjoying it im just saying all this slider testing on the general sliders does not work the way people think it does, im not questioning anyone who puts things like attack basket at 0 or run plays at 0, if you have those at 0 and you are still getting players attacking the basket, and plays are being at 0 that is proof the general sliders dont do crap, its about coach profiles

Oh trust me, we know how messed up the Coach Profiles are. The 2kInsider has been an embarrassment for a couple years now.

If the Coach Profiles, team playbooks, and player tendencies were anywhere near accurate, I doubt sliders would even need to be used. But until roster editors make those changes, the only way to make the game play semi-accurately without having to perfect every individual teams' Coach Profile is to have the correct sliders.

[mj68]

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you made my point for me its all about coach profiles

[EccentricMeat]

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you made my point for me its all about coach profiles

No, your point was that general sliders don't really affect gameplay (which they do).

My point was that in order to have "perfect" gameplay for each and every team, you would have to perfect each and every team's Coach Profile as well as every player's tendencies on every single team.

General sliders make over-arching changes to the gameplay. So, if every team attacks the basket too often and doesn't use the post enough, you have to change the general sliders in order to fix that. THEN you can edit every team's Coach Profile in order to make them play even more like they do in real life.

[mj68]

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its all relative anyways, like i said i did not touch the sliders as far as having post play at 100 and at 50 the 97 utah jazz went down in the post 70% of the game to karl malone, i get what your saying though,

[STLRams]

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I know I'm waiting for someone to post some good coaching profiles for all of the teams.

[Manbearpig]

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mj68, what are you using for run plays slider in the coach profiles setting?

[STLRams]

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What's interesting is the classic teams seem to play more like there supposed to than the current nba teams on the game. Note how 2k has the classic team coach profiles/tendencies bottom 5 tendencies set up all at 50 but has the current teams settings kind of random numbers. Also the classic teams seem to run there plays more/ better than the current teams on the game. Coach profiles are very key....

[Fakename22]

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Soooo anyone working on the coach profiles?

[mj68]

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yeah i have what did you need, i made the game better by altering the coach profiles

[mj68]

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manbear i am using 0 for run plays on coach profiles, and i have tweaked some other features as well to make the game play better, let me know if you need help, i also suggest lowering every teams offensive tempo to 40 so the computer takes better quality shots, but i would leave the legends sliders alone, they seem to play very accurate to how those teams play, its the only thing 2k got right

[petz_e]

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Hi, there is no way to change the AI-Teams coaching profiles in a running association, right? But I figured out that if a game started, you can change to the AI-Team just for a moment and then make the changes to the coaching profiles and then go back to your team and the changes should get saved, at least just for this game.

[EccentricMeat]

Re: coach profiles are what matters now

Hi, there is no way to change the AI-Teams coaching profiles in a running association, right? But I figured out that if a game started, you can change to the AI-Team just for a moment and then make the changes to the coaching profiles and then go back to your team and the changes should get saved, at least just for this game.

Actually, you CAN change the CPU teams' Coach Profiles.

To do so, just resign from your current team, sign with a new one, change their Coach Profile, and the resign and sign with another team.

Do this over and over until you have signed with every team and changed their Coach Profile, and then re-sign with your original team.