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  • TheRunAndShoot
    MVP
    • Sep 2008
    • 1177

    #1

    SiM OS Collab - Draft Class (X360)

    SiM DRAFT CLASS(s)

    Got the go-ahead from Perry Price a couple weeks ago, to work collab with rjohns23 on draft class(s) for the SiM Rosters. He had a decent base set that I’ve working off.

    ------ABOUT THE FILE------
    If you go and check 2kShare you’ll see that most of the draft classes available tend to simply follow a linear ranking of their favorite draft website. Which is fine; but since these sites tend to rank players largely on the basis of potential and upside, underclassmen tend to populate a good chunk of a Top 100.

    Below I’ve shown, a breakdown by class and draft year. “Avg. Adj. Yrs” is just the average for the past 5 drafts. I’ve also got the numbers for the 2007 & 2006 drafts but decided not to use them because those were the first two drafts after the NBA changed the requirements for age. (The one-and-done rule)




    I used this info as a template for selecting which particular players would be making the 2013 draft class. Once I had the upper-tier prospects (eg Cody Zeller) I looked up where players the recruiting rankings for players that entered the 2006-2012 drafts to get a better idea of the types of recruits that leave early. One example – a lot of times you will see top recruits that are athletes rather than basketball players. Look at the HS Class of 2008 which ended up being the 2009 Draft (Brandon Jennings), in the top 25 you’ve got a good mix players. Some came out early, some stayed around, and some are stocking shelves at your local supermarket (#NotKurtWarner)

    This might not be “sexy” but taking this approach is going to result in deeper draft classes, that should get you at least 3 years through your association file (maybe 4). In this file I will also be including a couple of sleepers, a couple of busts, and possibly a guy with terrible durability. I think doing this will make scouting a worthwhile proposition for the duration of a season.

    This is the last count I did had, I haven't counted 2nd rounders but it is SR heavy.

    SR Lottery 1
    SR 1st 5
    JR Lottery 2
    JR 1st 4
    SO Lottery 5
    SO 1st 3
    FR Lottery 4
    FR 1st 3
    Int Lot 2
    Int 1st 1


    ------WHAT I’M DOING ------
    For the next couple days I’ll be wrapping up on the faces and equipment edits then doubling back around for ratings.

    Also there are 14 players with signature skills which is obviously WAY too many, before I realized that you can’t remove them, I had already spent a good 50 hours on the file. Fortunately the most anybody has is two (Zeller). I’m going to replace 90% of those guys and nuke their ratings so they become 2nd round guys, most of them probably seniors. This might be a good way to hide a gem in the 2nd round too.



    Ratings- I’ve been using a printout of Slimm’s Draft Class googledoc for a template for players, adjusting here and there.

    ------WHAT I’D LIKE------
    If a few people wouldn’t mind helping me would with the sig shots and moves I’d appreciate the help and it would ensure that the 2013 draft class would arrive alongside the SiM Collab Roster file. If you would like to help just post in here and I’ll PM you a list of guys I still need done.
    Cosmetic Guides to the Show v2 Rosters

    STANCE GUIDE
    http://bit.ly/HtkpmT
    MOTION GUIDE
    http://bit.ly/IqkdGh
  • Perry Price
    Banned
    • Nov 2011
    • 1047

    #2
    Re: SiM OS Collab - Draft Class (X360)

    I can see what I can do with sigs, etc. for you SwaGGeD OUT Dudes. Thanks for the hard work put into this. It REALLY helps the project run more fluidly.

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    • TheRunAndShoot
      MVP
      • Sep 2008
      • 1177

      #3
      Re: SiM OS Collab - Draft Class (X360)

      I'm mostly done with Centers and should have PF's done tonight. Here's a screen cap of my spreadsheet for PGs. Ignore the color coding, some of it is out of date/complicated.



      I need sigs for...
      Young
      Kabongo
      Ledo
      Harrow
      McCallum
      Canaan
      Johnson
      Brown
      Burke
      Pressey
      Craft
      Kulagin
      Miljenovic
      Jackson
      Lindsey
      Wolters
      Turner
      Miller
      Cooper
      Siva
      Golden
      Triche
      Dellavedova

      If you or someone wants to jump in and post sigs for these guys it'd be great.
      I'll post SGs next, and hopefully I'll be caught up by then.
      Cosmetic Guides to the Show v2 Rosters

      STANCE GUIDE
      http://bit.ly/HtkpmT
      MOTION GUIDE
      http://bit.ly/IqkdGh

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      • gausec
        MVP
        • Aug 2011
        • 1034

        #4
        Re: SiM OS Collab - Draft Class (X360)

        Are all the players real, like even the guys that get undrafted?
        Cal is turning more guys into millionaires than wall-street.

        Everyone went pro from the 2012 Kentucky team even the ball boy!

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        • TheRunAndShoot
          MVP
          • Sep 2008
          • 1177

          #5
          Yes. They're mostly Seniors but I'm still spending the time to get their appearence and ratings accurate. I feel like if there's a player at you're school who's more of a prospect to go play overseas than in the league you should id still be cool to have them as the last guy in your roster. Also it should add a little more depth to the scouting element in the Association.
          Cosmetic Guides to the Show v2 Rosters

          STANCE GUIDE
          http://bit.ly/HtkpmT
          MOTION GUIDE
          http://bit.ly/IqkdGh

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          • chiliad
            Rookie
            • Mar 2010
            • 235

            #6
            Re: SiM OS Collab - Draft Class (X360)

            Looks like you're putting a ton of effort into this which is always nice to see. Your spreadsheet is a more advanced version of what I use for my draft class. And I did similar research on draft trends to make sure the number of guys from each class is accurate. Wish we were on the same system so we could combine our efforts. That would make for an absolutely awesome draft class.

            I can help with some of the sig shots you're looking for though. Some of those players overlap with guys in my class. I didn't put a ton of effort into researching sig shots, but I did try to make them as accurate as possible based on what pictures and youtube footage I did find.

            B.J. Young:
            Shooting Form - Release 46
            Shot Base - Jump Shot 22

            Myck Kabongo:
            Shooting Form - Rudy Gay
            Shot Base - Jump Shot 33

            Ryan Harrow:
            Shooting Form - Release 27
            Shot Base - Jump Shot 10

            Isaiah Canaan:
            Shooting Form - Release 27
            Shot Base - Jump Shot 2

            Elijah Johnson:
            Shooting Form - Paul Pierce
            Shot Base - Jump Shot 15

            Lorenzo Brown:
            Shooting Form - Release 52
            Shot Base - Rudy Gay

            Trey Burke:
            Shooting Form - Release 62
            Shot Base - Jump Shot 31

            Phil Pressey:
            Shooting Form - Release 29
            Shot Base - Jump Shot 32

            Dmitry Kulagin:
            Shooting Form - Release 43
            Shot Base - Jump Shot 22

            Pierre Jackson:
            Shooting Form - Vince Carter
            Shot Base - Jump Shot 26

            Nate Wolters:
            Shooting Form - Release 9
            Shot Base - Jump Shot 15

            Peyton Siva:
            Shooting Form - Release 68
            Shot Base - Jump Shot 4

            Brandon Triche:
            Shooting Form - Release 35
            Shot Base - Jump Shot 22

            Matthew Dellavedova:
            Shooting Form - Manu Ginobili
            Shot Base - Jump Shot 4

            Hardcore fans of these guys might know of better combinations, but I feel like these are pretty accurate. Hope it helps.

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            • TheRunAndShoot
              MVP
              • Sep 2008
              • 1177

              #7
              Chiliad-

              Thats awesome, if you've got sigs for guys at other positions I'd love to check those out. I've got sigs for a few bigs that include post moves if you're interested...

              If you want we can split up what's possible for the 2014 class.

              I checked out your thread and I noticed that you've got a bit more international guys than me. I know that in past years theres been as many as 9 guys (I'm going off memory), I chose to go with fewer INT. players because teams tend to punt their second round pick on a guys that are a few years away from being NBA ready an just hold their rights. Think T-wolves and Rubio.

              I chose to go with fewer INT guys, that way I would have to nuke their ratings. After a season the CPU is just gonna drop them almost regardless of their potential rating.

              I still kept the lottery guys like Gobert and Saric, mixed in a few 1990 guys and will add more in next yrs class.
              Cosmetic Guides to the Show v2 Rosters

              STANCE GUIDE
              http://bit.ly/HtkpmT
              MOTION GUIDE
              http://bit.ly/IqkdGh

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              • chiliad
                Rookie
                • Mar 2010
                • 235

                #8
                Re: SiM OS Collab - Draft Class (X360)

                Originally posted by TheRunAndShoot
                Chiliad-

                Thats awesome, if you've got sigs for guys at other positions I'd love to check those out. I've got sigs for a few bigs that include post moves if you're interested...

                If you want we can split up what's possible for the 2014 class.

                I checked out your thread and I noticed that you've got a bit more international guys than me. I know that in past years theres been as many as 9 guys (I'm going off memory), I chose to go with fewer INT. players because teams tend to punt their second round pick on a guys that are a few years away from being NBA ready an just hold their rights. Think T-wolves and Rubio.

                I chose to go with fewer INT guys, that way I would have to nuke their ratings. After a season the CPU is just gonna drop them almost regardless of their potential rating.

                I still kept the lottery guys like Gobert and Saric, mixed in a few 1990 guys and will add more in next yrs class.
                I just feel like with this class being one of the weaker ones in recent memory there are going to be an abnormal number of international guys. I usually control all 30 teams anyway so I can keep the international guys around from year to year and pretend they're "stash" players. Although 2K deciding to remove the D-League makes that a little more difficult this year.

                And I'll see what I can get to you as far as other sig shots. I'll shoot you a PM later tonight.

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                • TheRunAndShoot
                  MVP
                  • Sep 2008
                  • 1177

                  #9
                  Re: SiM OS Collab - Draft Class (X360)

                  Looking for SG sigs.....

                  Archie Goodwin
                  Kentavious Caldwell-Pope
                  Alex Abrines
                  Jamaal Franklin
                  Michael Snaer
                  Brandon Paul
                  Kenny Boynton Jr.
                  Seth Curry
                  Maurice Creek
                  Cosmetic Guides to the Show v2 Rosters

                  STANCE GUIDE
                  http://bit.ly/HtkpmT
                  MOTION GUIDE
                  http://bit.ly/IqkdGh

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                  • Perry Price
                    Banned
                    • Nov 2011
                    • 1047

                    #10
                    Re: SiM OS Collab - Draft Class (X360)

                    The Official OS SiM: Test 2 '14 has been UPLOADED to 2K Share...ENJOY:O

                    It includes- Top 5 Players http://nbadraft.net/2014mock_draft in 2014 Draft faces are now FINISHED.

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                    • TheRunAndShoot
                      MVP
                      • Sep 2008
                      • 1177

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Perry Price
                      The Official OS SiM: Test 2 '14 has been UPLOADED to 2K Share...ENJOY:O

                      It includes- Top 5 Players http://nbadraft.net/2014mock_draft in 2014 Draft faces are now FINISHED.
                      What'd you use for the ratings templates?

                      Did you edit tendencies and touches?
                      Cosmetic Guides to the Show v2 Rosters

                      STANCE GUIDE
                      http://bit.ly/HtkpmT
                      MOTION GUIDE
                      http://bit.ly/IqkdGh

                      Comment

                      • Perry Price
                        Banned
                        • Nov 2011
                        • 1047

                        #12
                        Re: SiM OS Collab - Draft Class (X360)

                        No, right now I'm working on player faces for the first round.

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                        • TheRunAndShoot
                          MVP
                          • Sep 2008
                          • 1177

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Perry Price
                          No, right now I'm working on player faces for the first round.
                          Ok. I was wondering how you had a file out already.
                          Cosmetic Guides to the Show v2 Rosters

                          STANCE GUIDE
                          http://bit.ly/HtkpmT
                          MOTION GUIDE
                          http://bit.ly/IqkdGh

                          Comment

                          • Perry Price
                            Banned
                            • Nov 2011
                            • 1047

                            #14
                            Re: SiM OS Collab - Draft Class (X360)

                            Yeah, I like to upload tests JUST in case something wrong happens with the file...

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                            • Manning18
                              Rookie
                              • Jul 2004
                              • 234

                              #15
                              Re: SiM OS Collab - Draft Class (X360)

                              Sorry if this question has been asked, but will the draft classes be released tonight the same time as the roster?

                              Thanks

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