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  • jello1717
    All Star
    • Feb 2006
    • 5674

    #1

    Excessive players transferring

    Following 2012, Michigan has 2 SOs and 8 FR that want to transfer due to playing time! This includes 6 true FR that are REDSHIRTING!!! These are all guys on the default rosters so I certainly didn't break any promises to them.

    I had a FR MLB who'd be #2 on my depth chart next year (I run a 3-4) that I had to promise would play in at least 9 games next year (which was easy as he'll be a starter) and that he'd get 40+ tackles (which I hope like hell isn't solo tackles).

    I had a FR FS that RSed this year. He's a 72 OVR and I return a 78 and an 84. I promised that he'd play in at least 6 games (which was a stretch) and he immediately told me he's leaving. In past games this dude would have no problem biding his time until he can start in a few years.

    I had a TE that will be #1 next year. I promised him that he'd play in 9+ games and that wasn't enough. My only other option was to promise that he'd catch 20+, 30+, or 50+ passes. I promised 20+ (since I don't go to TEs much) and he's leaving me. So a blocking TE (not a receiving TE) that will start next year is transferring away because he won't catch enough balls for me.

    I'm clearly gonna have to figure out what to do here. When it was all said and done, I was only able to talk 1 of those 10 guys into staying! For the rest of them, I had to make promises that I absolutely couldn't keep and they still left. I'm not sure if I'm missing something here.



    Has anyone had luck with talking guys into staying? I read somewhere that they're extremely easy to talk into staying but as you can see, I was only able to convince 10% of my extremely high number of guys wanting to leave.

    For the stats promises, I was promising the lowest ones, which I still wouldn't be able to keep. What are the penalties for breaking these promises? Should I just promise the most and not worry about breaking the promise?

    Has anyone else seen this many guys trying to transfer? Have you also seen redshirters trying to leave?

    Does this only happen in season 1 (when every CPU team has 2 open spots) and it's gone in seasons 2+ (when most CPU teams are full)?

    Thanx!
    Favorite Teams:
    College #1: Michigan Wolverines
    College #2: Michigan State Spartans (my alma mater)
    College #3: North Carolina Tar Heels
    NHL: Detroit Redwings
  • jello1717
    All Star
    • Feb 2006
    • 5674

    #2
    Re: Excessive players transferring

    I guess it doesn't matter what I promise them. I backed out and redid this. This time I promised all of them the most I could (IE. will play in 9+ games, get 120 tackles, 8 INTs, etc) and 8 of the 10 still left anyway.


    Favorite Teams:
    College #1: Michigan Wolverines
    College #2: Michigan State Spartans (my alma mater)
    College #3: North Carolina Tar Heels
    NHL: Detroit Redwings

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    • XSmooth
      Rookie
      • Jul 2012
      • 176

      #3
      Re: Excessive players transferring

      Did your former assistant coach break some sex laws and the NCAA virtua-ban your program from post season bowls for 4 years or something?

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      • BA2929
        The Designated Hitter
        • Jul 2008
        • 3342

        #4
        Re: Excessive players transferring

        In past games sometimes you just couldn't talk back transfers. They'd leave no matter how many times you reloaded your dynasty and tried again. However, it is nice to actually see transfers this year. In years past I'd never have them come to my school and only 1-2 would leave in any given off-season.
        "Baseball is the coolest sport because, at any moment, the catcher can stop the game and go tell the pitcher a secret" - Rob Fee

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        • jello1717
          All Star
          • Feb 2006
          • 5674

          #5
          Re: Excessive players transferring

          Originally posted by BA2929
          In past games sometimes you just couldn't talk back transfers. They'd leave no matter how many times you reloaded your dynasty and tried again. However, it is nice to actually see transfers this year. In years past I'd never have them come to my school and only 1-2 would leave in any given off-season.
          Transfers can only go if there's someplace to transfer to. If you max your roster @ 70 you can't get tranfers. The vast majority of CPU teams also max out their rosters @ 70 so there are very few teams because no one can accept them (the game uses your current roster size to determine this and not your future roster minus players leaving and plus incoming recruits).
          Favorite Teams:
          College #1: Michigan Wolverines
          College #2: Michigan State Spartans (my alma mater)
          College #3: North Carolina Tar Heels
          NHL: Detroit Redwings

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          • noles367
            Rookie
            • Mar 2006
            • 77

            #6
            Re: Excessive players transferring

            I actually thought transfers took up a scholarship for the next season. Whenever I accept mine I will see my available scholarships go down by how many I'm taking in offseason recruiting. I don't think having 70 players on your roster matters because I usually get a few and I always carry 70 players

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            • Johnny "Too Tall"
              Banned
              • Apr 2010
              • 309

              #7
              Re: Excessive players transferring

              Damn you lost Ondre Pipkins....that sucks.

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              • Sublime12089
                The Legendary Roots Crew
                • Jun 2003
                • 1495

                #8
                Re: Excessive players transferring

                Originally posted by noles367
                I actually thought transfers took up a scholarship for the next season. Whenever I accept mine I will see my available scholarships go down by how many I'm taking in offseason recruiting. I don't think having 70 players on your roster matters because I usually get a few and I always carry 70 players

                This is correct.

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                • nortobc
                  Banned
                  • Jul 2004
                  • 1130

                  #9
                  Originally posted by jello1717
                  Transfers can only go if there's someplace to transfer to. If you max your roster @ 70 you can't get tranfers. The vast majority of CPU teams also max out their rosters @ 70 so there are very few teams because no one can accept them (the game uses your current roster size to determine this and not your future roster minus players leaving and plus incoming recruits).
                  When players transfer, no team has 70 players because the seniors left already.

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                  Last edited by nortobc; 07-25-2012, 09:16 PM.

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                  • jello1717
                    All Star
                    • Feb 2006
                    • 5674

                    #10
                    Re: Excessive players transferring

                    This thread is getting offtrack but in the multitudes of tests I did in '12 (I haven't done this in '13) not once (in about 100 teams that I tracked) did I ever see a team that entered the season with 70 players on their roster get an incoming transfer during the offseason following that season. 90% of the time that a team I was tracking entered a season with 68 or 69 players on their roster they had an incoming transfer(s) the following offseason. A team with 69 players never got more than 1 transfer. A team with 68 never got more than 2. I never tested with with fewer than 68 players. None of these results changed depending on either the # of SRs on the team nor how many people were recruited during the season.
                    This is what I based my previous statement upon. I should've qualified it with an "in my extensive testing" instead of making it sound like fact.

                    Now back on topic, has anyone seen a mass exodus like what I posted in the OP? If not, then maybe this is just something peculiar to Michigan or maybe just this particular dynasty. I've tested it with SMU (3 times) and Clemson (once) and I never saw anything like what I saw in my Michigan dynasty.
                    Favorite Teams:
                    College #1: Michigan Wolverines
                    College #2: Michigan State Spartans (my alma mater)
                    College #3: North Carolina Tar Heels
                    NHL: Detroit Redwings

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                    • Timeetyo
                      Rookie
                      • Aug 2002
                      • 418

                      #11
                      Re: Excessive players transferring

                      I have not seen the mass exodus, but I have been seeing around 2 per year so far (through 5 seasons) in my dynasty - and MOST of them have just made no sense. My absolute favorite, was in my UTSA dynasty after season 2. I was at this time a 1* program moving to a 2*...and one of my first year recruits who I redshirted (65 OVR MLB) transferred to BAMA due to lack of playing time. This to me was absurd for the following reasons:
                      1. What 65 OVR RS FR is going to get any playtime at BAMA
                      2. Why xfer to a 6* school from a 2*
                      3. Due to graduating seniors, he would have been my starting MLB the next season. He was by far the best MLB left on my roster.

                      I just don't get the logic that they have. In reality it should be BAMA's 3rd string LB trying to transfer to UTSA because he realizes he wont hit the field there...not the other way around.
                      Timeetyo

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                      • jello1717
                        All Star
                        • Feb 2006
                        • 5674

                        #12
                        Re: Excessive players transferring

                        Originally posted by Timeetyo
                        I have not seen the mass exodus, but I have been seeing around 2 per year so far (through 5 seasons) in my dynasty - and MOST of them have just made no sense. My absolute favorite, was in my UTSA dynasty after season 2. I was at this time a 1* program moving to a 2*...and one of my first year recruits who I redshirted (65 OVR MLB) transferred to BAMA due to lack of playing time. This to me was absurd for the following reasons:
                        1. What 65 OVR RS FR is going to get any playtime at BAMA
                        2. Why xfer to a 6* school from a 2*
                        3. Due to graduating seniors, he would have been my starting MLB the next season. He was by far the best MLB left on my roster.

                        I just don't get the logic that they have. In reality it should be BAMA's 3rd string LB trying to transfer to UTSA because he realizes he wont hit the field there...not the other way around.
                        I lost a TE who was #2 on my team this year. He didn't have many catches, but he did have 13 pancakes. He would've been my #1 TE this year, but he left for more PT.

                        With your guys, since it was after season 2, did you break any promises to that MLB (from when you were recruiting him)? Broken promises are a great way to get kids to transfer away.
                        Favorite Teams:
                        College #1: Michigan Wolverines
                        College #2: Michigan State Spartans (my alma mater)
                        College #3: North Carolina Tar Heels
                        NHL: Detroit Redwings

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                        • IronVictory
                          Rookie
                          • Jun 2011
                          • 163

                          #13
                          Re: Excessive players transferring

                          Going into season 4 as a HC (5th overall in dynasty), and I never lose players. I make sure I play my second string for at least one play (occasionally an entire series or more if its a blowout) every game, and I will work in my 3rd string at least three times a season. Players always come back.

                          Hope this helps!
                          --Auburn Football--2010 National Champions--

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                          • jello1717
                            All Star
                            • Feb 2006
                            • 5674

                            #14
                            Re: Excessive players transferring

                            Originally posted by IronVictory
                            Going into season 4 as a HC (5th overall in dynasty), and I never lose players. I make sure I play my second string for at least one play (occasionally an entire series or more if its a blowout) every game, and I will work in my 3rd string at least three times a season. Players always come back.

                            Hope this helps!
                            I always play my backups as well (even down to my O-linemen). The issue here is that I'm losing guys who were true FR that were redshirting because they weren't even on the depth chart this year.
                            Favorite Teams:
                            College #1: Michigan Wolverines
                            College #2: Michigan State Spartans (my alma mater)
                            College #3: North Carolina Tar Heels
                            NHL: Detroit Redwings

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                            • KCRaider21
                              Rookie
                              • Jul 2012
                              • 6

                              #15
                              Re: Excessive players transferring

                              yes I just had 5 guys wanting to transfer from Missouri. one was a freshman qb and one a freshman running back that was hurt for half the season. one stayed 4 left and now i lost my future star qb. this sucks.

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