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  • Maine6054
    Rookie
    • Apr 2012
    • 15

    #1

    Jim Brown & Trent Richardson Situation

    On 283 attempts alabama's Trent richardson Rushed for 1740 yards in the 2011 season along with 21 TD's But When Jim brown was asked about Richardson Brown stated he doesn't think he is all that special Brown said his Speed and Size was ordinary but in Brown's first year at Syracuse he Rushed for 439 Yards, in his second year 666 rushing yards and his last year at Syracuse he had 986 rushing yards with a total of 2091 rushing yards. richardson also played 3 season in college. he rushed for 784 yards as a freshman, 719 yards as a sophomore and 1740 yards in his last year with Alabama and with a total of 3243 yards he had over a thousand more yards than Jim brown in college. so if we judged a player's entire Career of his college statistics then Richardson would be the better player, and thats exactly what jim brown is doing when he says he thinks Richardson is just a ordinary Running back. for example coming out of college Jim brown wasnt the best Rb/Fb what if Hall of fame Running back Harold Edward "Red" Grange said that Brown wouldnt be special? of course The future would prove him wrong but it would be the same situation as brown and richardson but what im saying is that Brown will eat his words just like Harold "Red" Grange would have if he would have made that statement, Richardson was the better College player and i dont see why he wont be just as succesful in the NFL. but what do YOU think?
  • daflyboys
    Banned
    • May 2003
    • 18238

    #2
    Re: Jim Brown & Trent Richardson Situation

    All it does is continue to speak to the apparently enormous ego and narcissism that seems to be part of Jim Brown.

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    • da ThRONe
      Fire LesS Miles ASAP!
      • Mar 2009
      • 8528

      #3
      Re: Jim Brown & Trent Richardson Situation

      I have no problem with Jim Brown said. He has the right to an opinion. I completely disagree and think Richardson will have an Adrian Peterson type impact.

      Last year a lot of people took offense when I said Mark Ingram would be a bust and was just an average running back. You have to call it like you see it. If that's how Mr. Brown sees it then that's on him.
      You looking at the Chair MAN!

      Number may not tell the whole story ,but they never lie either.

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      • elgreazy1
        MVP
        • Apr 2007
        • 2996

        #4
        Re: Jim Brown & Trent Richardson Situation

        He's the only offensive weapon on that pitiful Browns offense. Squarely put: Trent Richardson is going to HAVE to be special if he intends to succeed. I just can't imagine the guy excelling on a roster completely void of offensive talent, a rookie QB who will be too old before the team is even competitive, and a division that makes its living on stout defense.
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        • Maine6054
          Rookie
          • Apr 2012
          • 15

          #5
          Re: Jim Brown & Trent Richardson Situation

          Originally posted by da ThRONe
          I have no problem with Jim Brown said. He has the right to an opinion. I completely disagree and think Richardson will have an Adrian Peterson type impact.

          Last year a lot of people took offense when I said Mark Ingram would be a bust and was just an average running back. You have to call it like you see it. If that's how Mr. Brown sees it then that's on him.
          Yes, Of course Jim brown is Subject to an opinion but when you are considered a legend your not suppose to talk down on up and coming players. i think Jim brown has some kind of ego problem

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          • SoxFan01605
            All Star
            • Jan 2008
            • 7992

            #6
            Re: Jim Brown & Trent Richardson Situation

            I don't think Brown is saying he can't end up having a good career, he's just not impressed and doesn't see it. He does have an ego, but the guy also played in an era where RB's were far more essential (and physical) than they are now...I don't think it should be easy to impress a guy of Jim Brown's caliber. Also, for the record, Brown doesn't seem to be judging Richardson on stats, he's talking about what he sees (or doesn't see) in his running. That doesn't mean he can't be wrong though.

            As for how Richardson will perform in the NFL, I don't think it's as easy as looking at college success, making a direct comparison and then saying it will translate. That said, in my very amateur observation, I see nothing to suggest he can't be successful in the NFL. I think he could turn out to be truly great and I also think he'll make an impact early.

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            • Maine6054
              Rookie
              • Apr 2012
              • 15

              #7
              Re: Jim Brown & Trent Richardson Situation

              Originally posted by elgreazy1
              He's the only offensive weapon on that pitiful Browns offense. Squarely put: Trent Richardson is going to HAVE to be special if he intends to succeed. I just can't imagine the guy excelling on a roster completely void of offensive talent, a rookie QB who will be too old before the team is even competitive, and a division that makes its living on stout defense.
              yeah i just really hope that Trent Richardson doesn't do what Barry Sanders did, because the browns OL isn't as good and they don't have a sure Quarterback in Brandon Weeden because he's like 30 already! and Barry Retired because of the QB switches and I'm afraid that Trent is gonna go through some QB changes Also.

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              • Segagendude
                Banned
                • Aug 2008
                • 7941

                #8
                Re: Jim Brown & Trent Richardson Situation

                I'm a Browns fan and respect the hell out of what Brown did for us back in the day.

                That being said, he's a bitter old man now, who didn't even acknowledge when his own rushing records fell (first by Payton, then by Emmett)

                He's known to just genuinely hate the world. Like the grouchy old man in your neighborhood who cusses at everybody passing by.

                So I really don't care what he has to say. He still sounds like the bitter old man who has trouble accepting his time has long passed.

                Need I remind everyone he retired in his prime to pursue a movie career? So in actuality, besides being known as one of the greatest RB's in history, he did nothing for Cleveland. (I don't think Richardson has acting in his sights...)

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                • Maine6054
                  Rookie
                  • Apr 2012
                  • 15

                  #9
                  Re: Jim Brown & Trent Richardson Situation

                  Originally posted by SoxFan01605
                  I don't think Brown is saying he can't end up having a good career, he's just not impressed and doesn't see it. He does have an ego, but the guy also played in an era where RB's were far more essential (and physical) than they are now...I don't think it should be easy to impress a guy of Jim Brown's caliber. Also, for the record, Brown doesn't seem to be judging Richardson on stats, he's talking about what he sees (or doesn't see) in his running. That doesn't mean he can't be wrong though.

                  As for how Richardson will perform in the NFL, I don't think it's as easy as looking at college success, making a direct comparison and then saying it will translate. That said, in my very amateur observation, I see nothing to suggest he can't be successful in the NFL. I think he could turn out to be truly great and I also think he'll make an impact early.
                  i know that Jim brown has a crazy ego but i feel if he was young again and had to play against today's defense he wouldn't be nearly as good, same for baseball

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                  • Maine6054
                    Rookie
                    • Apr 2012
                    • 15

                    #10
                    Re: Jim Brown & Trent Richardson Situation

                    Originally posted by Segagendude
                    I'm a Browns fan and respect the hell out of what Brown did for us back in the day.

                    That being said, he's a bitter old man now, who didn't even acknowledge when his own rushing records fell (first by Payton, then by Emmett)

                    He's known to just genuinely hate the world. Like the grouchy old man in your neighborhood who cusses at everybody passing by.

                    So I really don't care what he has to say. He still sounds like the bitter old man who has trouble accepting his time has long passed.

                    Need I remind everyone he retired in his prime to pursue a movie career? So in actuality, besides being known as one of the greatest RB's in history, he did nothing for Cleveland. (I don't think Richardson has acting in his sights...)
                    Your exactly Right!

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                    • SoxFan01605
                      All Star
                      • Jan 2008
                      • 7992

                      #11
                      Re: Jim Brown & Trent Richardson Situation

                      Originally posted by Maine6054
                      i know that Jim brown has a crazy ego but i feel if he was young again and had to play against today's defense he wouldn't be nearly as good, same for baseball
                      Well, the league is certainly more athletic overall now, so it may be different for him...but have you seen Jim Brown run? People can say what they will about his ego, etc (and there are fair points about his apparent bitterness) but the guy was an absolute beast. I have a hard time buying that, in his prime, he couldn't hold his own in any era.

                      That's obviously moot in terms of how Richardson will turn out though.

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                      • Senator Palmer
                        MVP
                        • Jul 2008
                        • 3314

                        #12
                        Re: Jim Brown & Trent Richardson Situation

                        I wouldn't use stats to compare Richardson to Jim Brown. Jim Brown played almost 60 years ago when there were only 9 regular season games. Not to mention they didn't even want him to be a running back when he got to Syracuse for reasons that had nothing to do with football.

                        Jim Brown only touched the ball 74 times his first season season, 128 his second, and 158 as a senior. Richardson, even as a freshman, had 145 carries.

                        You give Brown the 283 touches in his senior year that Richardson had on the 6.2 yards a carry Brown averaged as a senior and Jim Brown would have run for 1755.

                        Jim Brown, massive ego and all, is not a man who'll withhold credit where it is due --just look up the things he had to say about Adrian Peterson. I think he's just giving an honest opinion of Richardson, and one that isn't all that outrageous.

                        I loved Richardson at Alabama. Saw just about every game he played. I thought he was better than Ingram, even when Ingram won the Heisman, but for some reason, I don't look at him and see a special runner; not like AP.
                        Last edited by Senator Palmer; 05-03-2012, 02:34 PM.
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                        • OSUFan_88
                          Outback Jesus
                          • Jul 2004
                          • 25642

                          #13
                          Re: Jim Brown & Trent Richardson Situation

                          Jim Brown was a great player for the Cleveland Browns.

                          Jim Brown was a wife beating, bitter old man who was a part of the regime who almost brought down the Cleveland Browns after their rebuild.

                          Quite frankly, I don't give a damn about what Jim Brown says anymore. He is irrelevant to me. If he still had his position with the team, then I'd be pissed.

                          Also, for TR, he's a Ray Rice type player. He does everything at an extremely high level. He has the potential to be the best all around back in the NFL. Marshall Faulk esqe.

                          And he does have a pretty darn good offensive line to run behind. If Weeden can manage to challenge defenses and open them up, then TR is going to be fine.
                          Last edited by OSUFan_88; 05-02-2012, 09:04 PM.
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                          • Senator Palmer
                            MVP
                            • Jul 2008
                            • 3314

                            #14
                            Re: Jim Brown & Trent Richardson Situation

                            Originally posted by Maine6054
                            i know that Jim brown has a crazy ego but i feel if he was young again and had to play against today's defense he wouldn't be nearly as good, same for baseball
                            Jim Brown was 6'3" 240lb. running back with near world class speed. That translates to any era.

                            If he played today with the 16 game schedules, he'd be putting up 1600 yards a year. Walter Payton could dominate today. Joe Greene in his prime could line up in a 3 tech today and still whip a**. Willie Lanier would be making a 150 tackles a year in this era. Certain players are timeless. Jim Brown is one of them.
                            "A man can only be beaten in two ways: if he gives up, or if he dies."

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                            • Maine6054
                              Rookie
                              • Apr 2012
                              • 15

                              #15
                              Re: Jim Brown & Trent Richardson Situation

                              Originally posted by SoxFan01605
                              Well, the league is certainly more athletic overall now, so it may be different for him...but have you seen Jim Brown run? People can say what they will about his ego, etc (and there are fair points about his apparent bitterness) but the guy was an absolute beast. I have a hard time buying that, in his prime, he couldn't hold his own in any era.

                              That's obviously moot in terms of how Richardson will turn out though.
                              Jim could really run, but he had so many attempts! he had so many attempts per game meaning he would allot of time's get 35+. even when he had a bad game he would get all those attempts and still get allot of yards and that's because eventually with all those attempts the short yardage would add up. but in todays game no one is gonna Average all those attempts, imagine if Maurice Jones-Drew (who led the league in rushing) had that many attempts. but i still think Jim brown is ONE of the best players in the NFL,

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