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  • Focused One
    Rookie
    • Jan 2009
    • 13

    #1

    If SCEA would just do this one thing, I wouldn't play any other game again lol...

    If SCEA would just implement MVP's total control hitting style, this game would be everything I ever wanted in a sports videogame.

    It pains me that year after year, The Show just seems to ignore what was undoubtedly the best mechanic featured in the MVP series- the hitting system.

    Nothing The Show offers even comes close for me. I have come to accept using the Zone hitting style (don't really care for analog), but it will never feel as good as when I would create Bonds (since he was not in MVP 04 or 05) and have him blast a walk-off moonshot into the Bay at ATT.

    The directional hitting in that game was perfect, and I just wish SCEA San Diego would implement it one time to see if people would like it.

    I would bet real money that we would stop talking about MVP the second The Show adopted this hitting system as The Show does just about everything else better in my opinion.
  • ARMORALLL
    Rookie
    • Jun 2008
    • 413

    #2
    Re: If SCEA would just do this one thing, I wouldn't play any other game again lol...

    I don't think this would add much more value than what we are already getting.

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    • Focused One
      Rookie
      • Jan 2009
      • 13

      #3
      Re: If SCEA would just do this one thing, I wouldn't play any other game again lol...

      Originally posted by ARMORALLL
      I don't think this would add much more value than what we are already getting.
      You may be right, but I still feel that a bunch of people (in addition to myself) miss the old style of hitting from MVP, and if that were in this game, many of the complaints about the frustration of hitting would disappear. It was a very simple, yet realistic and exact hitting style that was very fun to play.

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      • ghm125
        john14:6
        • Jul 2002
        • 2439

        #4
        Re: If SCEA would just do this one thing, I wouldn't play any other game again lol...

        Its been quite a while since I played mvp...refresh my memory of how the hitting system worked....the show has everything covered,except setting it on a TEE....
        VIOLATION!!!!!!!!

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        • Nexgenrulz
          Rookie
          • Oct 2010
          • 104

          #5
          Re: If SCEA would just do this one thing, I wouldn't play any other game again lol...

          When The Show came out, I forgot all about MVP. Especially the year you couldn't hit a HR with a LH batter. The infamous lefty glitch.

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          • DickDalewood
            All Star
            • Aug 2010
            • 6263

            #6
            Re: If SCEA would just do this one thing, I wouldn't play any other game again lol...

            Originally posted by ghm125
            Its been quite a while since I played mvp...refresh my memory of how the hitting system worked....the show has everything covered,except setting it on a TEE....
            Basically, pushing left influenced hits to the left, right influenced hits to the right, pushing up influenced fly balls/hit with power, down influenced grounders. One of the greatest feelings ever was seeing a meatball pitched, hitting up on the left stick while pushing swing and smacking that baby out of the park.

            Now, having said that, MVP improved its own hitting model with analog hitting, which the show has essentially replicated, with very minimal differences. I've said since MVP 2005 that NO game has come close to replicating that pure feeling of hitting a baseball... until this year with The Show adding analog controls.

            I no longer miss MVP Baseball.

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            • Stumpy Santo
              Rookie
              • Mar 2005
              • 105

              #7
              Re: If SCEA would just do this one thing, I wouldn't play any other game again lol...

              Originally posted by DickDalewood
              Basically, pushing left influenced hits to the left, right influenced hits to the right, pushing up influenced fly balls/hit with power, down influenced grounders. One of the greatest feelings ever was seeing a meatball pitched, hitting up on the left stick while pushing swing and smacking that baby out of the park.

              Now, having said that, MVP improved its own hitting model with analog hitting, which the show has essentially replicated, with very minimal differences. I've said since MVP 2005 that NO game has come close to replicating that pure feeling of hitting a baseball... until this year with The Show adding analog controls.

              I no longer miss MVP Baseball.
              As a longtime fan of MVP, I no longer miss it either, and it's due to the Show's fielding controls this year. It was the last area that I felt MVP had the Show beat.
              I can't feel my legs!

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              • emath
                Rookie
                • Mar 2004
                • 414

                #8
                Re: If SCEA would just do this one thing, I wouldn't play any other game again lol...

                I never liked MVPs hitting style. Then again, I am not a huge fan of any type of swing influence.

                I like the game to be mostly ratings based, with the only user input being timing. Thus, The Shows timing option is the best hitting option since High Heat. While High Heat had kind of a zone hitting system, you really didn't need to aim to be successful, and it ended up being more like timing hitting.

                To me, classic fielding, pitching, and timing hitting, turn The Show into what High Heat woulda been with better graphics, player models, and ball physics.

                Nearly the perfect game for my taste.

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                • frankstallone83
                  Rookie
                  • Jul 2008
                  • 165

                  #9
                  Re: If SCEA would just do this one thing, I wouldn't play any other game again lol...

                  Originally posted by Focused One
                  If SCEA would just implement MVP's total control hitting style, this game would be everything I ever wanted in a sports videogame.

                  It pains me that year after year, The Show just seems to ignore what was undoubtedly the best mechanic featured in the MVP series- the hitting system.

                  Nothing The Show offers even comes close for me. I have come to accept using the Zone hitting style (don't really care for analog), but it will never feel as good as when I would create Bonds (since he was not in MVP 04 or 05) and have him blast a walk-off moonshot into the Bay at ATT.

                  The directional hitting in that game was perfect, and I just wish SCEA San Diego would implement it one time to see if people would like it.

                  I would bet real money that we would stop talking about MVP the second The Show adopted this hitting system as The Show does just about everything else better in my opinion.
                  I agree. This is my first year playing the show - I feel it has everything MVP had and more - but I miss MVP total control hitting. After a week I'm finally getting analog down enough to where I don't think I'll miss it as much but I'd still prefer total control.

                  What's funny is even though I haven't played that game in 6 years my brain apparently is still hard wired for it....I keep pressing right stick to try to dive or jump instead of r1/r2...it's driving me crazy. But mostly there was no way I could readjust to any button hitting style away from total control. I tried b/c I didn't want to do analog but I couldn't break the control MVP has over my brain.

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                  • bkrich83
                    Old Guy
                    • Jul 2002
                    • 71527

                    #10
                    Re: If SCEA would just do this one thing, I wouldn't play any other game again lol...

                    I am glad they haven't emulated MVP. IMO MVP is one of the most overrated sports games ever. I despised that hitting system.
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                    • Chef Matt
                      True.
                      • Apr 2008
                      • 7832

                      #11
                      Re: If SCEA would just do this one thing, I wouldn't play any other game again lol...

                      I liked MVP hiting as well but even on the highest difficulty is was far too easy to hit HR's. Especially to right. Hold up and in and time it right and Boom!

                      I hit 62 HR's one season with Carlos Delgado. lol

                      I did like the mechanics myself, but I'm really liking zone hitting. I think it may become my favorite hitting style to date.

                      The thing I miss the most that I wish the show would instill is MVP's fielding reaction.

                      I can't put my finger on it but it always seemed like the camera off the ball in MVP was faster then the show giving you a split second longer to react.
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                      • cardsfan2222
                        Pro
                        • Apr 2009
                        • 872

                        #12
                        Re: If SCEA would just do this one thing, I wouldn't play any other game again lol...

                        How did this turn into just an MVP vs The Show thread?

                        I would like to see them revamp franchise mode to make it a lot more in-depth. Things like better negotiating with free agents, including no-trade clauses, vesting clauses, etc. Having to make offers without knowing what other teams have offered, or how interested the other teams are. I'd like to actually get a feel for what the player wants, such as more total money, more years, etc.

                        I'd also like to see the draft changed to where you have to consider whether an 18 year old will sign if you draft him, or decide to go to college instead. Have signing bonuses instead of generic contracts. Most importantly, have some A potential players turn out to be busts, and some D potential players turn into stars. Make it a bit more unpredictable when deciding who to draft.

                        Franchise is good, but I want it to be much deeper than just playing games and making a few trades.

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                        • sydrogerdavid
                          MVP
                          • May 2009
                          • 3109

                          #13
                          Re: If SCEA would just do this one thing, I wouldn't play any other game again lol...

                          Originally posted by Nexgenrulz
                          When The Show came out, I forgot all about MVP. Especially the year you couldn't hit a HR with a LH batter. The infamous lefty glitch.

                          That was a glitch? I always thought that it was me and I just sucked at hitting homers with Jim Edmonds.

                          Well, that relieves a lot of frustration from my lifetime.

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                          • econoodle
                            MVP
                            • Sep 2009
                            • 4884

                            #14
                            Re: If SCEA would just do this one thing, I wouldn't play any other game again lol...

                            Originally posted by Focused One
                            If SCEA would just implement MVP's total control hitting style, this game would be everything I ever wanted in a sports videogame.

                            It pains me that year after year, The Show just seems to ignore what was undoubtedly the best mechanic featured in the MVP series- the hitting system.

                            Nothing The Show offers even comes close for me. I have come to accept using the Zone hitting style (don't really care for analog), but it will never feel as good as when I would create Bonds (since he was not in MVP 04 or 05) and have him blast a walk-off moonshot into the Bay at ATT.

                            The directional hitting in that game was perfect, and I just wish SCEA San Diego would implement it one time to see if people would like it.

                            I would bet real money that we would stop talking about MVP the second The Show adopted this hitting system as The Show does just about everything else better in my opinion.

                            Focused,

                            this would be a good idea if people listed the one thing SCEA would do that would cause you to never play another baseball game.


                            For me, TV Style Presentation.
                            IF they added that, its all over baby bird.
                            nothing else would matter.

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                            • jmik58
                              Staff Writer
                              • Jan 2008
                              • 2402

                              #15
                              Re: If SCEA would just do this one thing, I wouldn't play any other game again lol...

                              I'm surprised to see so many people opposed to the MVP style of hitting.

                              I also think that was the best and most fun hitting system ever made in a video game.

                              It's not too simple that you just mash a button, and it doesn't require you to put a circle around the location of the ball.

                              This is like "timing" hitting with more interaction. You have to respond to the pitch location by moving the left stick, but you don't have to "catch" the pitch location with a yellow indicator. This lets the player attributes still have a major impact, but user skill is required to maximize that potential.

                              I don't think the point is to get rid of the current hitting systems, but to add this as an option.

                              I agree 100% with the OP in that this is the one thing I've wished SCEA would add that would satisfy everything I ever wanted in a baseball game.

                              I absolutely loved MVP's hitting mechanism.

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