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  • CaptainZombie
    Brains
    • Jul 2003
    • 37851

    #1

    LCD or OLED? - The TV Thread

    We made our family room in the basement into a master bedroom over the summer. We moved everything in our living room upstairs, including the 50" DLP and there is not a lot of space in the living room. I have been toying around the idea of selling my DLP (w/ a spare brand new bulb) and getting an LCD or Plasma. The plan by getting the LCD or Plasma is to free up a whole bunch of space by the DLP and stand its on.

    I was talking to a few people and they were telling me that newer Plasma's don't ghost anymore and burn-in isn't an issue being much better with still images. I see that I can get a 50" plasma (50" Samsung 1080p for $899 on sale) for much less than a 55" LCD (Samsung 1080p 120hz for $1499). We watch regular television shows, the news for about 45 minutes throughout the day (I worry about logos), my wife watches TV throughout the day, Blu-ray viewing, and I usually fire up the PS3 or 360 during the evening for about 1-2 hours depending on time. Because we have kids, I have to pause my gaming sometimes for 10-15 minutes if there is something I need attending to. Do they have screen savers on Plasma's?

    The living room has a bay window with a lot of light during the day. The way the TV is facing, the window is to the left of it. The room is lightly dim in the evening since we have a lamp for lighting until I can install new lighting above the ceiling.

    Do Plasma's still have to be broken in?

    I can't pull the trigger till early December and I might even wait till around early next year..........but what do you guys think of the two? I have smaller LCD's at home already and love them, but wouldn't mind the plasma if its cheaper and can do the same.
    Last edited by CaptainZombie; 11-10-2010, 10:16 AM.
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  • GAMEC0CK2002
    Stayin Alive
    • Aug 2002
    • 10384

    #2
    Re: Plasma or LCD?

    It really comes down to 2 things: 1) personal preference and 2) the tv placement. If there is going to be a lot of light in that room (that you can't control somehow) then you probably want to stick with a LCD. LCDs are just brighter. An LCD will probably save you a few dollars ($4-6) each year in electricity if that matters to you. LCDs are low maintenance.

    If lighting isn't an issue, then you might want to look at a plasma. Plasmas are cheaper (when comparing similar sizes), blacker blacks, better viewing angles, and motion blur is not an issue.

    As long as you use common sense, maintaining a plasma is easy.

    Burn out is almost a complete non-factor with newer plasmas. You'd have to really abuse your tv for it to happen. Image retention is a possibility though, but it is temporary (taking seconds or a few minutes to go away)

    I've owned (and still do) both but prefer plasma. The full array LED (LCD) tvs are a very very very close second--much pricier though. You'll find just as many if not more people that like the "brighter" picture of a LCD. Just depends on what YOU like since you're paying the bill.

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    • Scottdau
      Banned
      • Feb 2003
      • 32580

      #3
      I don't do good with common sense or easy to do if you do it this way. So I went the LCD route. But both TV's have their strength and weakness.

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      • NC State-31 UNC-27
        MVP
        • Nov 2007
        • 1525

        #4
        Re: Plasma or LCD?

        I got an LCD and don't really remember my reasoning for it. Probably was worried about the bright sun shining in my living room at the time. Paid too much though, should have gone for a Plasma at just over half the price, same size, and just as good of a picture.

        Right now...I would either get a Plasma if I wanted to save money and still have a good TV or spend the cash for a super thin awesome LED

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        • 55
          Banned
          • Mar 2006
          • 20857

          #5
          Re: Plasma or LCD?

          I have changed my tune...
          Last edited by 55; 12-21-2011, 01:48 AM.

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          • Tomba
            TOMBA IS ONLINE
            • Sep 2006
            • 8908

            #6
            Re: Plasma or LCD?

            plasma...trust me
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            • SidVish
              2010,13,15,16 CHAMPS!
              • Apr 2003
              • 11743

              #7
              Re: Plasma or LCD?

              I've got a panny plasma and love it. I like it more than my vizio lcd. See gamecock's post and decide what works for you.
              "You got it man. I don't watch hockey." SidVish
              "I thought LeBron James was just going to be another addition to help me score."
              Ricky Davis
              "The difference between stupidity and genius is that genius has its limits." Albert Einstein

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              • mjb2124
                Hall Of Fame
                • Aug 2002
                • 13649

                #8
                Re: Plasma or LCD?

                It's personal taste, but I'd go Plasma>LED>LCD. IMO Plasma and LED are close with LCD a distant 3rd.

                I think Plasma still has better blacks than an LED and handles motion blur better. A Plasma is also slightly cheaper so you get more for your buck.

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                • CaptainZombie
                  Brains
                  • Jul 2003
                  • 37851

                  #9
                  Re: Plasma or LCD?

                  Some interesting thoughts so far. I need to continue looking around at the stores to compare the two. I like Samsung a lot, any other brands if I went with Plasma which are good like LG or Panasonic? I hear the VIERA series is good. We will see though, for some reason LCD just seems like the safer road.
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                  • mjb2124
                    Hall Of Fame
                    • Aug 2002
                    • 13649

                    #10
                    Re: Plasma or LCD?

                    Panasonic makes some very nice plasma's. The VIERA series is very good.

                    I also like Samsung a lot. I'm looking at a few 3D plasma's and the Samsung model and Panasonic model I was looking at are neck and neck in most reviews. The Panasonic is a few hundred more so I'm leaning towards the Sammy.

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                    • DickDalewood
                      All Star
                      • Aug 2010
                      • 6263

                      #11
                      Re: Plasma or LCD?

                      Originally posted by CaptainZombie
                      We made our family room in the basement into a master bedroom over the summer. We moved everything in our living room upstairs, including the 50" DLP and there is not a lot of space in the living room. I have been toying around the idea of selling my DLP (w/ a spare brand new bulb) and getting an LCD or Plasma. The plan by getting the LCD or Plasma is to free up a whole bunch of space by the DLP and stand its on.

                      I was talking to a few people and they were telling me that newer Plasma's don't ghost anymore and burn-in isn't an issue being much better with still images. I see that I can get a 50" plasma (50" Samsung 1080p for $899 on sale) for much less than a 55" LCD (Samsung 1080p 120hz for $1499). We watch regular television shows, the news for about 45 minutes throughout the day (I worry about logos), my wife watches TV throughout the day, Blu-ray viewing, and I usually fire up the PS3 or 360 during the evening for about 1-2 hours depending on time. Because we have kids, I have to pause my gaming sometimes for 10-15 minutes if there is something I need attending to. Do they have screen savers on Plasma's?

                      The living room has a bay window with a lot of light during the day. The way the TV is facing, the window is to the left of it. The room is lightly dim in the evening since we have a lamp for lighting until I can install new lighting above the ceiling.

                      Do Plasma's still have to be broken in?

                      I can't pull the trigger till early December and I might even wait till around early next year..........but what do you guys think of the two? I have smaller LCD's at home already and love them, but wouldn't mind the plasma if its cheaper and can do the same.
                      This is literally almost everything you need to know George. The only thing I would add is that the newer plasmas will give you a longer lifespan than your standard LCD, whereas LEDs will be about the same.

                      Oh, and go with Panasonic, it's a much better brand of Plasma (if you go that route). If you go LED/LCD, then yah, Samsung is a great choice.

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                      • DickDalewood
                        All Star
                        • Aug 2010
                        • 6263

                        #12
                        Re: Plasma or LCD?

                        Originally posted by mjb2124
                        It's personal taste, but I'd go Plasma>LED>LCD. IMO Plasma and LED are close with LCD a distant 3rd.

                        I think Plasma still has better blacks than an LED and handles motion blur better. A Plasma is also slightly cheaper so you get more for your buck.
                        Technically, that's not even opinion, it's just fact. Now, whether someone looks at the screen and prefers what they see is a whole different story, but the way you have them ranked on a technical level is 100% correct.

                        BTW, if you guys want to know why plasmas are cheaper... When Panasonic (for example) produces their TVs, they take a giant sheet of glass (sometimes over what would be considered a 200" screen) and they cut out exactly how many displays they need without any wasted material. When LCDs/LEDs are made, their screens are actually stamped out, and that extra material is thrown away. So, as a consumer, you're actually paying for what you purchase as well as that extra waste.
                        Last edited by DickDalewood; 11-10-2010, 10:53 AM.

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                        • bigfnjoe96
                          Hall Of Fame
                          • Feb 2004
                          • 11412

                          #13
                          Re: Plasma or LCD?

                          CZ, here's a link clarifying the 2 types LCD TV's are the market. LED & CCFL. The term LED TV is a marketing term by companies:

                          Many of the big TV manufacturers are pushing LED TVs as the latest and greatest flat-screen TV. But just what are LED TVs and what should you know before buying one?


                          Here's another info link(Pro's V Con's) on Plasma V LCD:

                          Here are the best TVs I've reviewed, including OLEDs and mini-LEDs, from top brands such as LG, Samsung and TCL.


                          From reading your 1st post, It looks like LCD is your option due to the lighting of your living room during the day & the way the TV will be used. You just need to decide if LED or CCFL is what you want/can afford
                          Last edited by bigfnjoe96; 11-10-2010, 10:59 AM.

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                          • CaptainZombie
                            Brains
                            • Jul 2003
                            • 37851

                            #14
                            Re: Plasma or LCD?

                            Originally posted by mjb2124
                            Panasonic makes some very nice plasma's. The VIERA series is very good.

                            I also like Samsung a lot. I'm looking at a few 3D plasma's and the Samsung model and Panasonic model I was looking at are neck and neck in most reviews. The Panasonic is a few hundred more so I'm leaning towards the Sammy.
                            Originally posted by DickDalewood
                            This is literally almost everything you need to know George. The only thing I would add is that the newer plasmas will give you a longer lifespan than your standard LCD, whereas LEDs will be about the same.

                            Oh, and go with Panasonic, it's a much better brand of Plasma (if you go that route). If you go LED/LCD, then yah, Samsung is a great choice.
                            That was interesting about the manufacturing about both the Plasma and LCD.

                            I was looking at the Panasonic VIERA today and it looked a bit nicer than the Samsung. I found out the Samsung I was interested in has a double pane glass which really was giving off a bad reflection. I then took a look at the VIERA which is single pane and the glare was not as bad. The price difference is $300, which is still several hundred dollars cheaper than the Samsung LCD I was looking at.

                            Originally posted by bigfnjoe96
                            CZ, here's a link clarifying the 2 types LCD TV's are the market. LED & CCFL. The term LED TV is a marketing term by companies:

                            Many of the big TV manufacturers are pushing LED TVs as the latest and greatest flat-screen TV. But just what are LED TVs and what should you know before buying one?


                            Here's another info link(Pro's V Con's) on Plasma V LCD:

                            Here are the best TVs I've reviewed, including OLEDs and mini-LEDs, from top brands such as LG, Samsung and TCL.


                            Thanks Joe, I checked out those links. I'm starting to lean towards Plasma a bit considering they are deep on the blacks and good for gaming due to no motion blur.

                            From reading your 1st post, It looks like LCD is your option due to the lighting of your living room during the day & the way the TV will be used. You just need to decide if LED or CCFL is what you want/can afford
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                            • DickDalewood
                              All Star
                              • Aug 2010
                              • 6263

                              #15
                              Re: Plasma or LCD?

                              Originally posted by CaptainZombie
                              That was interesting about the manufacturing about both the Plasma and LCD.

                              I was looking at the Panasonic VIERA today and it looked a bit nicer than the Samsung. I found out the Samsung I was interested in has a double pane glass which really was giving off a bad reflection. I then took a look at the VIERA which is single pane and the glare was not as bad. The price difference is $300, which is still several hundred dollars cheaper than the Samsung LCD I was looking at.
                              I answered your PM, but I'll post this here for you too:



                              Same price as that Samsung ($899) you looked at, but a much better set. We can hardly keep this guy in stock. The other Viera you looked at for $300 more is the G20, which is THX certified, and is also internet connectable. While it's definitely more expensive, at $1099, it's inch for inch possibly THE best TV in the store.

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