Give EA Some Credit.

[mechbutcher]

Sorry guys but I am getting tired of all the negativity on these boards this season so far. All the complaints about defense, offense and money plays. Seems like the same people every year complaining about the same thing.
Just think for a moment about how big of a task making a football sim video game is. How many things move on every frame of video. Then throw in all the logic involved for every player. It ends up being a momentous task.
I am not saying this game is perfect, but I do believe every year when you look at the big overall picture it gets closer.
Strategy pad, got used to now love it, Game Flow, made a lot of different game plans now use it, even think it might be interesting to make it mandatory for some form of online play to try and battle the cheese plays.
Defense impossible, I don't think so. Hard yes I have been getting some shut outs lately even on heisman but this is being addressed soon by EA.
Online franchise mode not changed this year, everyone knew before they bought this game that online franchise would not be updated till next year so lets quit complaining about it please. I could keep going on here but really need to get off the soap box. Just want to thank EA for their continued hard work in developing a quality game.


So Please lets post some things you like about this game and enjoy.

[jauron]

Re: Give EA Some Credit.

Well, I go into every new sports title with the philosophy that it's basically a demo until the first patch is released, then I'm more open to criticisms.

Should it be that way? No, but it's today's reality.

I can completely understand complaints by those who have been asking for something for five years, or who dislike that favorably-viewed elements have been removed.

All in all, not a huge deal. I like reading opinions on gameplay, and I'm glad OS provides a forum for that.

[kpkpkp]

Re: Give EA Some Credit.

Well, I go into every new sports title with the philosophy that it's basically a demo until the first patch is released, then I'm more open to criticisms.

Should it be that way? No, but it's today's reality.

I agree with this part of your post 100%.

Now-a-days when any game comes out (sports game or not) I almost never buy it on release day.

I always wait to read up on game-play flaws or bugs, and if and when a patch might come.

Games are so expensive, I'm a big fan of on-line forums and game-fly research before plopping down $60 for a title.

Very rarely do I trust a gaming company right away to buy something without reading up first. (Maybe Bethesda... the makers of Fallout3 and Oblivion.)

For example I didn't buy Madden 11 until reading Ian's blog on the upcoming patch. Also I avoided MLB 2K10 all-together last year due to its bugs. Which breaks my heart as a baseball fan since I have no PS3 and cant buy The Show.

Better safe than sorry!

[Sort of Irish]

Re: Give EA Some Credit.

I'll give credit where credit is due and while Madden '11 isn't a huge departure from last year there are some things done well. I've actually had the most fun with this installment of Madden than any other.

That said I don't think a lot of the disappointment and frustration you're hearing isn't unwarranted. I for one feel like a Cubs fan every year I pick up Madden. After I play it I always say to my self, "there's always next year." Then when next year comes I find features have either been unchanged or taken out of the game entirely. Plus I have a hard time understanding how games like NHL and NCAA are light years ahead of Madden...

Anyways, I'm going to enjoy Madden this year regardless of it's short comings and I guess I'll be waiting for next year.

[threes_co]

Re: Give EA Some Credit.

Defense is much improved after the roster update.

[ramenite]

Re: Give EA Some Credit.

All I have to say is play NHL, MLB the Show, FIFA, and NBA 2k.

Madden is years behind these games. I just don't think Tiburon can hack it anymore. The Tiger Woods series also took a nosedive from the last generation.

A lot of people like to cite the exclusive license, and they don't HAVE to do anything. There's no NHL 2k11 this year, and NHL 11 took a nice jump this year. MLB 2k series isn't any real competition to The Show, but that doesn't stop SCEA from improving a quality game every year.

So will I give them some credit? No. The Madden series is FAR behind other sports games. Nothing short of changing developers will change that.

[mr_president]

Re: Give EA Some Credit.

Sorry guys but I am getting tired of all the negativity on these boards this season so far. All the complaints about defense, offense and money plays. Seems like the same people every year complaining about the same thing.
Just think for a moment about how big of a task making a football sim video game is. How many things move on every frame of video. Then throw in all the logic involved for every player. It ends up being a momentous task.
I am not saying this game is perfect, but I do believe every year when you look at the big overall picture it gets closer.
Strategy pad, got used to now love it, Game Flow, made a lot of different game plans now use it, even think it might be interesting to make it mandatory for some form of online play to try and battle the cheese plays.
Defense impossible, I don't think so. Hard yes I have been getting some shut outs lately even on heisman but this is being addressed soon by EA.
Online franchise mode not changed this year, everyone knew before they bought this game that online franchise would not be updated till next year so lets quit complaining about it please. I could keep going on here but really need to get off the soap box. Just want to thank EA for their continued hard work in developing a quality game.


So Please lets post some things you like about this game and enjoy.

everything that you mentioned should not be an issue.

they have been developing the series for 6 years this gen and 20 years total and the game still feels incomplete. ..that's pretty sad.

football games have been done better than the madden series of this gen by both EA and other companies. if you ask me the madden team deserves the heat they get.

[HuRRiiCaNe22]

Re: Give EA Some Credit.

The numerous non-gameplay issues (Franchise Mode & Superstar) are enough to give EA little to none credit. The issues are consistent throughout this entire generation of consoles. Give me back owners box so I can charge 10 dollars a hot dog please.

[PantherBeast_OS]

Re: Give EA Some Credit.

Yes I agree bro the game is much better then it was in madden10. But ain't that people are complainning. But alot of people are just trying to point out things need to be tuned and fixed in the game. I see somethings need tuning and fixed in the patch updates. But that ain't complaining. It's just a way of people helping EA out and correcting somethings on the game to make it real as possible. But beyond the things need tuning and needing fixed. I truly believe this is the best madden yet EA has made since it came to the next Gen console. I'm loving it before any patches. But I'm sure it will be even more enjoyable after everything is said and done.

[ramenite]

Re: Give EA Some Credit.

I truly believe this is the best madden yet EA has made since it came to the next Gen console.

Problem being, best Madden yet, and a so-so attempt at a football game aren't mutually exclusive. I just don't see how anyone can play something like MLB or NHL, then come back to Madden and think Madden is anywhere CLOSE to where it should be.

[mechbutcher]

Re: Give EA Some Credit.

I agree this forum is to share concerns and all. And I do enjoy reading others opinions. I just was getting tired of all the doom and gloom about the game. Alot of valid points on here. Really great one esp the difference between the best madden game and best football console game. I do agree there would be alot higher quality if there was some competition for them. NHL is an unbelievable game. I to don't understand the big difference between NCAA and Madden, 2 games made by the same company yet on 2 different playing fields. Just combine the 2 games and bam I think we are all set.
Thanks for everyones input though dont mind seeing people share opinions like adults and not just whining about things.

GO PACKERS

[nolesfan69]

Re: Give EA Some Credit.

Sorry guys but I am getting tired of all the negativity on these boards this season so far. All the complaints about defense, offense and money plays. Seems like the same people every year complaining about the same thing.
Just think for a moment about how big of a task making a football sim video game is. How many things move on every frame of video. Then throw in all the logic involved for every player. It ends up being a momentous task.
I am not saying this game is perfect, but I do believe every year when you look at the big overall picture it gets closer.
Strategy pad, got used to now love it, Game Flow, made a lot of different game plans now use it, even think it might be interesting to make it mandatory for some form of online play to try and battle the cheese plays.
Defense impossible, I don't think so. Hard yes I have been getting some shut outs lately even on heisman but this is being addressed soon by EA.
Online franchise mode not changed this year, everyone knew before they bought this game that online franchise would not be updated till next year so lets quit complaining about it please. I could keep going on here but really need to get off the soap box. Just want to thank EA for their continued hard work in developing a quality game.


So Please lets post some things you like about this game and enjoy.

Just curious how are you getting shutouts in All-Madden? I can't even
stop a single drive. But I do agree with you the game is pretty good
and it has alot of positive things going for it. But I think alot of die
hard Madden gamers want to see the game improve greatly every year.
Such as adding multiple hit tackles, psysics and a better franchise mode.
Game is still alot of fun and I think Tiburon is doing well with what they
have.

[G-Men_in_Mass]

Re: Give EA Some Credit.

The numerous non-gameplay issues (Franchise Mode & Superstar) are enough to give EA little to none credit. The issues are consistent throughout this entire generation of consoles. Give me back owners box so I can charge 10 dollars a hot dog please.

Are you kidding me!!!!!! I buy Madden to play NFL Football and 11 is really close to that.. I~m on my fourth season in my Giants Chise and yes I play every game... So if you want to be a HotDog vendor then find a differnt game, because when I buy Maddden I want Football!!!!!

[G-Men_in_Mass]

Re: Give EA Some Credit.

Just curious how are you getting shutouts in All-Madden? I can't even
stop a single drive. But I do agree with you the game is pretty good
and it has alot of positive things going for it. But I think alot of die
hard Madden gamers want to see the game improve greatly every year.
Such as adding multiple hit tackles, psysics and a better franchise mode.
Game is still alot of fun and I think Tiburon is doing well with what they
have.

Not sure how he is but, I have thrown about 3 shutouts in about 60 games, and I play between All-Madden and All-Pro..

[rooney8]

Re: Give EA Some Credit.

Just curious how are you getting shutouts in All-Madden? I can't even
stop a single drive. But I do agree with you the game is pretty good
and it has alot of positive things going for it. But I think alot of die
hard Madden gamers want to see the game improve greatly every year.
Such as adding multiple hit tackles, psysics and a better franchise mode.
Game is still alot of fun and I think Tiburon is doing well with what they
have.

Not really. I don't even want a bunch of new features either. If you look at the other top games they often only add 1 new feature a year if any and mostly work on improving the features they already have. When I buy Fifa and Nba2k this year I am not expecting huge changes but rather more of the same from great games.