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  • Fiddy
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    • Jul 2002
    • 12637

    #1

    There will be an NHL 2K12 (360 & PS3) - Per Take-Two CEO Ben Feder....

    2K's annual ice hockey title, exclusive to Wii for the first time in the franchise's history. The cover athlete has been announced as Ryan Kesler of the Vancouver Canucks, who was also an Olympic Silver Medalist for Team USA.


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    360 and PS3 Development

    The development teams working on the Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3 NHL 2K games were given an extra year to develop a product to better compete with EA's hugely successful NHL franchise, which has dominated 2K's efforts in the current generation of consoles in both sales and critical reception. Take-Two CEO Ben Feder has indicated that there will be an NHL 2K12 for both Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3 to be released in 2011.



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  • RealmK
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    • Sep 2003
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    Re: There will be an NHL 2K12 (360 & PS3) - Per Take-Two CEO Ben Feder....

    Originally posted by Fiddy
    Unless it has a new engine and isn't reusing the same broken AI the past 3 years have used what difference will an "extra year" mean?

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    • Fiddy
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      • Jul 2002
      • 12637

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      Re: There will be an NHL 2K12 (360 & PS3) - Per Take-Two CEO Ben Feder....

      i dont care honestly. i hate having just one hockey game on the 360.

      i enjoyed 2k10 almost as much as 2k8. it plays a solid game for me with the correct settings etc. 2k11 on the wii plays an awesome game of hockey, again to me..

      so, im pumped that there is gonna be a 2k12 on the major consoles so to speak. hopefully they fix the stuff that has plagued the game for years for some and beef up the presentation. fix the obvious gameplay problems etc. give us more customization over the players and make it easier to adjust rosters with maybe a pc editor via Finn.

      they not that far off from where they used to be IMO, its just a matter of finding that stride i guess.

      but like i said, i dont care, im glad we will have 2 hockey options again next year. bc both games have big time issues, so when i get sick of one i go play the other. pretty simple.
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      • RealmK
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        Re: There will be an NHL 2K12 (360 & PS3) - Per Take-Two CEO Ben Feder....

        Originally posted by Fiddy
        i dont care honestly. i hate having just one hockey game on the 360.

        i enjoyed 2k10 almost as much as 2k8. it plays a solid game for me with the correct settings etc. 2k11 on the wii plays an awesome game of hockey, again to me..

        so, im pumped that there is gonna be a 2k12 on the major consoles so to speak. hopefully they fix the stuff that has plagued the game for years for some and beef up the presentation. fix the obvious gameplay problems etc. give us more customization over the players and make it easier to adjust rosters with maybe a pc editor via Finn.

        they not that far off from where they used to be IMO, its just a matter of finding that stride i guess.

        but like i said, i dont care, im glad we will have 2 hockey options again next year. bc both games have big time issues, so when i get sick of one i go play the other. pretty simple.
        Don't get me wrong having two hockey games is great, but for me, until the game actually plays well, I just don't really feel 2k deserves any more cash from me. And every video I've seen so far of 2k11, looks like 2k10, except defensemen don't seem to get stuck as much. Yay I guess.

        I guess I just don't have very much faith that they can go back to their roots and actually give EA a run for it. I'd like to be proven wrong though. 2k3 and 2k5 still hold a special place for me, so if they can somehow get back to that point I'd be all for it.

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        • Fiddy
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          • Jul 2002
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          Re: There will be an NHL 2K12 (360 & PS3) - Per Take-Two CEO Ben Feder....

          i got in the mindset about a year or two ago to just play the game. just play the game and have fun, stop worrying about the issues. adjust the game to my liking with help from others slider sets or my own and just play. sure, the issues get annoying at times and i def use the forums to vent about them, but in the end i just play the game and have fun.

          as for 2k11 being the same, pretty much. just some of the issues were taken care of i guess. i have played some very entertaining games past few days vs the Flyers and Bruins. good times.

          honestly, im glad it was just on the Wii this year lol.. it made me realize that my ps3 sucked and got no love except for the show. so i sold it and got back a Wii (sold my old one 4 months ago) and this system has been on more than off lol. old lady loving that we got it back, she been playing the heck out of the sports and resort games. the new super mario brothers just came from gamefly.. good times with the Wii here, not so much for the ps3 lol.
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          • RealmK
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            Re: There will be an NHL 2K12 (360 & PS3) - Per Take-Two CEO Ben Feder....

            Originally posted by Fiddy
            i got in the mindset about a year or two ago to just play the game. just play the game and have fun, stop worrying about the issues. adjust the game to my liking with help from others slider sets or my own and just play. sure, the issues get annoying at times and i def use the forums to vent about them, but in the end i just play the game and have fun.

            as for 2k11 being the same, pretty much. just some of the issues were taken care of i guess. i have played some very entertaining games past few days vs the Flyers and Bruins. good times.

            honestly, im glad it was just on the Wii this year lol.. it made me realize that my ps3 sucked and got no love except for the show. so i sold it and got back a Wii (sold my old one 4 months ago) and this system has been on more than off lol. old lady loving that we got it back, she been playing the heck out of the sports and resort games. the new super mario brothers just came from gamefly.. good times with the Wii here, not so much for the ps3 lol.
            Eh I suppose if watching goalies dive head first on what should be simple saves and trying to poke check every 2 seconds only to give up easy goals is fun, more power to you I guess.

            I guess if you're having fun thats what's important. For me personally they would have to put alot of effort into making the game play alot more like EA's with the proper slider adjustments for me to enjoy it. After using skill stick the last few years there's really no going back to canned dekes and goaltenders that couldn't stop a beachball never mind a tiny puck.

            That being said, I truly do hope taking a year off does the series some good, it would be nice to be able to actually enjoy 2k's brand of hockey again.

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            • onlybygrace
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              #7
              Re: There will be an NHL 2K12 (360 & PS3) - Per Take-Two CEO Ben Feder....

              I hope they come back with a vengeance and some awesome NHL Today presentation.

              Good luck, 2K.

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              • Fiddy
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                • Jul 2002
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                Re: There will be an NHL 2K12 (360 & PS3) - Per Take-Two CEO Ben Feder....

                Originally posted by RealmK
                Eh I suppose if watching goalies dive head first on what should be simple saves and trying to poke check every 2 seconds only to give up easy goals is fun, more power to you I guess.
                see, even last year i didnt notice this all that much. i know its there, but i just dont notice it. i must just play a way that doesnt exploit them to do that? who knows..
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                • slickdtc
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                  • Aug 2004
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                  Re: There will be an NHL 2K12 (360 & PS3) - Per Take-Two CEO Ben Feder....

                  Goalies definitely are one of the weaker points of NHL 2k10. I never intentionally exploit their fetish for poke checking, but when I go to replays and check out "that awesome goal!" you see that it was more the goalie ****ing the play up then the offensive player beating the goalie.

                  With that said, I'm with Fiddy. I'm at a point in my gaming career where I just play the games. Yeah, I want them to play realistically and get true to life statistics, but I still want to PLAY my games. The game still plays well enough for me to be able to deal with the issues it does have.

                  And back to on topic...

                  GREAT NEWS. I don't know about you guys, but I had pretty much 100% written the series off. Yeah, they said we're just taking a year off, but with each day passing and no future announcement and with guys like WWTC being out of a job, I thought the writing was on the wall. But with this statement, coming from the top, everything has changed. I'm absolutely excited to see what they can do with the extra time. I have a feeling they'll come back with a strong effort.
                  Last edited by slickdtc; 08-28-2010, 09:47 AM.
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                  And how does one levy a check that will result in only a slight concussion? Do they set their shoulder-pads to 'stun'?

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                  • RealmK
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                    • Sep 2003
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                    #10
                    Re: There will be an NHL 2K12 (360 & PS3) - Per Take-Two CEO Ben Feder....

                    Originally posted by Fiddy
                    see, even last year i didnt notice this all that much. i know its there, but i just dont notice it. i must just play a way that doesnt exploit them to do that? who knows..
                    So wait, you never at all noticed goalies diving on routine saves or poke checking like crazy? Um dude, you don't need to try to exploit anything, they do it even when you don't want them to in 2k10. Not sure if its as bad in 2k11 as I haven't played it but seriously, 2k10's goalies were the worse in the history of the series, doesn't really take much to notice.

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                    • Flyermania
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                      #11
                      Re: There will be an NHL 2K12 (360 & PS3) - Per Take-Two CEO Ben Feder....

                      If this news is true, I'm all for it as competition will only make each game stronger. I still think a lot of it will have to do with the financial success (or failure) of 2k11. After all, 2k did just let go quite a few members of their development teams --- not a good sign.

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                      • TIm
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                        • Jun 2003
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                        Re: There will be an NHL 2K12 (360 & PS3) - Per Take-Two CEO Ben Feder....

                        Lucky for Forums because yesterday I lost my voice and still don't have it back.. Luckily my fingers still work LOL... Who really knows, this may be the game that turns developers looking to do a 2 year cycle. IMO if this game has killer presentation and decent gameplay and does a complete 360 from the glory days of 2k hockey, I would gladly pay money the the next year for a major patch and Newest roster updates...Maybe a good pricepoint would be 19.99?? I understand roster updates the following year some will say the heck with that... But is they put out a spectacular product It would be a easy decision for me to support the company in any way I could.. Now I understand companies like Ea or other huge names can't see the logic because those guys make boatloads of money every year.. But for the medium to smaller guys, I really think this could work.. Some of the blockbuster titles Gran Turismo, Halo, and others take more then a year development so why not sports games.. What would be your take on the situation?

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                        • DrPhibes
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                          Re: There will be an NHL 2K12 (360 & PS3) - Per Take-Two CEO Ben Feder....

                          I am a 2k guy and have been since they blew my mind with NHL 2k5. They were on top of the mountain for several years until NHL 09 happened.

                          I hope 2k can produce a quality/deep hockey expeirence. Don't get me wrong, I liked 2k10 but it felt clunky and outside of the arena models (perhaps the best arena models in any sports game ever) this game had no little things outside of playoff beards and really really small Final patches. I just don't see them ever competing with EA in the hockey department ever again. Of course #1 thing is gameplay, but the little things are what make a game special. Look at The Show. MLB 2K10 plays perhaps a little better, but the little things The Show has have blown peoples mind away and it's why the game is widely considered the best sports franchise going today.

                          I hope and want 2k12 to be a revolution and 2k's re-introduction on the next gen consoles and I want 2k to be the game I loved and preferred, but honestly this franchise has been dead for 3 years and every year that 2k has been complacent EA has jumped 5 steps forward. COmpetition is good, but I really wouldn't even consider it a competition. Hockey is EA's world and 2k is just living in it (like NBA is 2k's world compared to the piles of crap EA has given us for what seems a decade)

                          The only question is not what 2k hockey is gonna do with this year to recoop, it's really just a matter of how much money VC wants to lose on this project before they pull it off life support. Not trying to start a pissing match and it's nothing you guys don't already know, but it is what it is.
                          Last edited by DrPhibes; 08-28-2010, 11:33 AM.

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                          • savoie2006
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                            Re: There will be an NHL 2K12 (360 & PS3) - Per Take-Two CEO Ben Feder....

                            I'll believe it when I see it at this point. I mean they just laid off a bunch of people and the Wii versioh is being trashed by reveiwers, which isn't gonna help matters. So unless they are pulling money from somewhere else to develop the game, I don't see it happening. Also, like Realm stated they better be bring the kitchen sink and more or it will be all for not. Personally I thiink it's the CEO trying to squash the end of 2K Hockey rumors. I hope it's not and I'll buy 2K12 even if it's not on par with EA, but I'm not getting my hopes up.

                            Hey Realm, weren't you just baggin' on Fiddy for "trollin" the EA forum, yet here you are in the 2K forum doing what other than baggin' on 2K10.
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                            • CarryTheWeight
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                              • Jul 2002
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                              Re: There will be an NHL 2K12 (360 & PS3) - Per Take-Two CEO Ben Feder....

                              Great news, although I'll echo what everyone else is saying in that I'd appreciate it if the game was built from the ground up and can at least provide us a competent and logical (but fun) game of hockey. With the other game on the market doing as much as it has this year (and hopefully next year as well), it's going to take an entirely fresh experience to turn things around for 2K and VC.

                              Innovation is the key word here...if the development team can innovate without being gimmicky this time around (Cinemotion, etc.), then I'll be excited to see what may happen.

                              And as OBG said on many occasions, "NHL Today" would finally nail the presentation element and allow Randy and Drew to finally speak as they do on a normal Sharks broadcast...but it'll all be for naught if the gameplay doesn't get a much-needed revamp. Hoping for the best but not expecting much, so it's up to Visual Concepts (or an outsourced development team we don't know about) to deliver.
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