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  • delmarjones
    Rookie
    • Aug 2009
    • 17

    #1

    NBA LIVE v. NBA 2K : An Unbiased Open Letter to the Basketba

    To Whom It May Concern,


    Although I may be new to these forums I am not new to the NBA LIVE and NBA 2K series. My love for sports gaming started with NBA 2K on the Sega Dreamcast. I was a NBA 2K fan until the Dreamcast folded and NBA LIVE 03 released. Since then I have been a die-hard NBA LIVE fan.

    The reason why I made the switch from 2K to LIVE was because of the groundbreaking feature "Freestyle Control". Never before in a basketball game were we granted so much freedom to do with the ball exactly what we wanted to do. NBA Live made constant leaps foward in the gameplay department every year after the 03 installment up until NBA LIVE 07. Now I wont go in to a whole lot of detail about the game because as we all know, it was a complete disaster.

    Although I supported NBA LIVE I felt that NBA LIVE 07 did not warrant a purchase from me, but neither did NBA 2K7, even though it was light years ahead of NBA LIVE on Next-Gen systems at that point in time. I always felt like the 2K series was missing something, yes, we know that the graphics in the series have been mediodcre at best, but that wasnt it, it was something deeper. After playing NBA 2K7 for a couple of hours I wasnt empressed, my basketball gaming cravings were left unfulfilled, and thus, I was empty. And then I finally figured it out, I finally figured out what was missing to me. The NBA 2K series lacked personality. Yeah, the jerseys moved and the players were shiny, but, was the really game that good? In my opinion no, but, NBA LIVE was so bad, and the basketball gaming community desperately needed a basketball game to play that the NBA 2K series was crowned king. I for one decided not to support either party because in my opinion both were bad in their own special way.

    Now after a year off of basketball gaming I was determined to make a purchase. I scoured through countless websites and gaming forums to see with what series would I be siding with. Now I used the word "siding" because during that period of time I discovered that there was almost a war going on between the NBA LIVE and NBA 2K communities. I was astonished by the sheer passion that people held for their selctive series. Based off of reviews, previews, and the demos that were released I chose to purchase NBA LIVE.


    Although I wasnt blown away by the LIVE 08 installment, I was relieved that it was at least playable and fun again. LIVE 08 had great graphics, great online play, but unfortunately the broken gameplay held the series down. Flaws and all, I stuck with NBA LIVE up until I ran across a by now classic NBA 2K8 video on youtube in the summer. The aforementioned video is the NBA 2K8 - O.M.G. video created by MomentousCeltic, I was immediately blown away by the realism in the player movements and animations. NBA 2K8 was a good game but again I felt like it lacked the personality and fun that no matter how bad things seem to be, NBA LIVE always has. I also felt that the controls , constant sliding, and other things kind of held the game down. But, it was enough to get my purchase in 09.

    I bought NBA 2K9 and I admit I was impressed, the 2K staff finally gave the game a much needed facelift, animations were still life-like, and gameplay was still intact. I was so dissapointed in the fact that the LIVE series took one step foward in 08 and two steps back in 09, that I felt like leaving the series alone all together. But after a month or so of playing 2K9 the old feeling cameback. The feeling of boredom, the feeling of fustration, and that same old empty feeling came rushing back. Could it be the overly complicated controls? Could it be the disastrous Online play? I didnt know, but I did know one thing, NBA 2K just isnt for me.

    Now it has been a few months since i had this epiphany and I am once again searching through the forums. I have been blown away by the LIVE screens so far and unimpressed by the 2K screens, but, last night the gamespot.com preview was very outstanding. Now without a doubt the feature that is most immpressive is the NBA 2K "My Player" feature. They have everything that is needed in the single player career mode. This includes summer games, the d-league, and even the nba draft combine. Now, while reading this article I got so angry because for years, well, since 05 the LIVE community had been asking for a Career mode. In 09 we got our hopes up when NHL 09 released the biggest feature ever in a sports game with their "Be a Pro" Mode, and we got teased in NBA LIVE 09 with a single game appetizer of what could have been.


    I honestly feel that the NBA LIVE development team has been caught with their pants down again. Now as we all know, all information has not been released by either party, I just cant help but to feel like NBA LIVE is one step behind again. But I will not lose hope in my favorite game of all time, with Mike Wang, the architect of NBA 2K gameplay, and EA Sports asthetics first attitude as well as their infinite resources I truly believe that NBA LIVE will be back on top again. Only time will tell.


    Sincerely,

    Delmar Jones

    PS:THANK YOU FOR READING. COMMENTS AND FEEDBACK ARE WANTED AND WELCOMED. THESE ARE JUST MY THOUGHTS. AGAIN THANK YOU.

    PPS: If an administrator deletes this thread can you please tell me why..
  • DR Russell
    Rookie
    • Feb 2009
    • 364

    #2
    Re: NBA LIVE v. NBA 2K : An Unbiased Open Letter to the Basketba

    I honestly respect your opinion because they are yours, but why "side" with company? shouldn't we all be a fan of the sport and buy the game because it represents a good simulation of the sport (assuming you like sim style sports games).

    I personally have been playing one of those two games because its been representing a more sim style than the other, but i really dont care who makes it, if its a good simulation, believe it i will play it.

    Hope this does not turn into a vs. like most threads that start like this do.

    DR Russell

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    • SageInfinite
      Stop The GOAT Talk
      • Jul 2002
      • 11896

      #3
      Re: NBA LIVE v. NBA 2K : An Unbiased Open Letter to the Basketba

      lol @ unbiased.
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      • bateman11
        MVP
        • Jul 2004
        • 1729

        #4
        Re: NBA LIVE v. NBA 2K : An Unbiased Open Letter to the Basketba

        :S

        deja vu
        PSN: rose2kobe24

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        • bowdown2shadi
          MVP
          • Sep 2008
          • 2385

          #5
          Re: NBA LIVE v. NBA 2K : An Unbiased Open Letter to the Basketba

          Originally posted by bateman11
          :S

          deja vu


          Posted the thread twice, both in the wrong forum.

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          • Fiasco West
            MVP
            • Oct 2008
            • 2820

            #6
            Re: NBA LIVE v. NBA 2K : An Unbiased Open Letter to the Basketba

            I'll just post what I posted in the other one...

            Well I think you're completely wrong when you say that people only enjoyed 2k because Live was so bad.

            I've always felt that since next-gen that 2k has been on another level. I think Live 09 did make a step towards the right direction, but to me ever since complete freestyle has been introduced it's been a bit too fast paced for my taste.

            I think most people prefer one or the other because of the 'feel' of the game though.

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            • TheFiasco87
              Rookie
              • Jun 2009
              • 279

              #7
              Re: NBA LIVE v. NBA 2K : An Unbiased Open Letter to the Basketba

              good read

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              • michaeljordanjr
                Banned
                • Jun 2009
                • 972

                #8
                Re: NBA LIVE v. NBA 2K : An Unbiased Open Letter to the Basketba

                i think a comparison thread is good.

                can a moderator direct us to the right forum to comment on these without getting infracted?

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                • delmarjones
                  Rookie
                  • Aug 2009
                  • 17

                  #9
                  Re: NBA LIVE v. NBA 2K : An Unbiased Open Letter to the Basketba

                  Though NBA LIVE is my game of choice, NBA 2K was my first love, as I stated in my initial post. It may seem as if I am biased because I showed my support for NBA LIVE, but in no way did I ever unnecessarily dissect the 2K series in a negative fashion. Every point and stance that I made was solely based off of my love and hate for both series. I hope that cleared up some the grey area.

                  PS:Again Thank You For Reading the post, for Those of you who actually read it. And I would also like to thank you for all of the feed back

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                  • Wiffyjustus
                    Rookie
                    • Oct 2008
                    • 378

                    #10
                    Re: NBA LIVE v. NBA 2K : An Unbiased Open Letter to the Basketba

                    Originally posted by delmarjones
                    ...After playing NBA 2K7 for a couple of hours I wasnt empressed, my basketball gaming cravings were left unfulfilled, and thus, I was empty...

                    ...But after a month or so of playing 2K9 the old feeling cameback. The feeling of boredom, the feeling of fustration, and that same old empty feeling came rushing back. ...
                    I don't think a basketball game is going to provide you with personal fulfillment. Perhaps you're looking in the wrong place.

                    I understand what you mean though. The rush you get when you find a game that is more than the sum of it's parts is a pretty cool feeling.

                    JL

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                    • 2kfanatic
                      Rookie
                      • Dec 2008
                      • 437

                      #11
                      Re: NBA LIVE v. NBA 2K : An Unbiased Open Letter to the Basketba

                      I just wish that when these two games come out, we will be debating about how another game is better than the other rather than how the other game sucks compared to the other.

                      I want a great basketball game!!!!!!

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                      • delmarjones
                        Rookie
                        • Aug 2009
                        • 17

                        #12
                        Re: NBA LIVE v. NBA 2K : An Unbiased Open Letter to the Basketba

                        Originally posted by Wiffyjustus
                        I don't think a basketball game is going to provide you with personal fulfillment. Perhaps you're looking in the wrong place.

                        I am currently seeking "basketball gaming fulfillment" (a feeling of satisfaction at having achieved your desires or the act of consummating something (a desire or promise etc), therefore, I am looking in the correct place. I know that I am looking in the correct place because I am waiting for either party to give me another 2K2 or another Live06(XBOX & PS2 version only). And I didnt reply to be rude or anything, but, I just truly belive that we all want a basketball game that will hands down across the board, blow us away; being that we havent had one for years. I think that we all just want that new classic that we've been starving for.

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                        • Pared
                          Legen - WAIT FOR IT
                          • Feb 2003
                          • 39337

                          #13
                          Re: NBA LIVE v. NBA 2K : An Unbiased Open Letter to the Basketba

                          Locked.

                          Don't spam the forums again.
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