NBA 2K9 Insider needs to give Gallinari the shamgod move PROOF inside

[Monta8]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fGxvM8HT6KU&feature=related

[Stumbleweed]

Re: NBA 2K9 Insider needs to give Gallinari the shamgod move PROOF inside

Just because he did it once (in pre-season) doesn't mean that it should replace the double-cross in his package. I'm kind of annoyed that Derrick Rose and CP3 do it so often, because it's a move that very few people in the league currently have actually done in-game. I love the move and it's REALLY effective against the CPU and humans, but you can trigger it every single time by doing the double cross motion, and that's kind of wack. It should be a context animation or something similar to the Rondo Shake layup... seeing it so often kind of ruins it for me.

[Bornindamecca]

Re: NBA 2K9 Insider needs to give Gallinari the shamgod move PROOF inside

Just because he did it once (in pre-season) doesn't mean that it should replace the double-cross in his package. I'm kind of annoyed that Derrick Rose and CP3 do it so often, because it's a move that very few people in the league currently have actually done in-game. I love the move and it's REALLY effective against the CPU and humans, but you can trigger it every single time by doing the double cross motion, and that's kind of wack. It should be a context animation or something similar to the Rondo Shake layup... seeing it so often kind of ruins it for me.

100% agree

[Stumbleweed]

Re: NBA 2K9 Insider needs to give Gallinari the shamgod move PROOF inside

I could score 50 points with Derrick Rose doing nothing but that move... They really don't need to give it to anyone else. Has anyone even done that in-game in recent years except for the vid posted above? I can't think of anyone who has that in their regular repertoire that would warrant it being added to their package. I don't think that Rose and CP3 should have it really...

[DC]

Re: NBA 2K9 Insider needs to give Gallinari the shamgod move PROOF inside

Sad thing is I wouldn't be surprised if they actually listened to this request

[bowdown2shadi]

Re: NBA 2K9 Insider needs to give Gallinari the shamgod move PROOF inside

Sad thing is I wouldn't be surprised if they actually listened to this request

God no!

[sirjam]

Re: NBA 2K9 Insider needs to give Gallinari the shamgod move PROOF inside

Sad thing is I wouldn't be surprised if they actually listened to this request

Ginobili should have it for sure he used to use it all the time.

[Pared]

Re: NBA 2K9 Insider needs to give Gallinari the shamgod move PROOF inside

Are you guys saying the CPU controlled player does it or are you saying the user shouldn't be able to do it?

I honestly don't agree with the latter.

[Stumbleweed]

Re: NBA 2K9 Insider needs to give Gallinari the shamgod move PROOF inside

It's an uncommon move that I can't recall anyone using in a game situation over the past few years (can't find anything aside from Shammgod himself and Gallinari on YouTube either). In 2K9, it replaces the double-cross, a common move that 90% of the league actually uses at some point. I don't like that.

And giving that move (which is basically unstoppable due to the forward momentum and quick side-step involved) to a guy who did it once in Summer League and hasn't even played a regular season game in his pro career seems a bit uh.. hurried? Giving it to Rose and CP3 when they haven't done it IRL is bad enough -- at least they have the handles for it and it's a move that a top-flight PG would do.

[Pared]

Re: NBA 2K9 Insider needs to give Gallinari the shamgod move PROOF inside

I'm not talking about who and who not to give it to. But it seems like you'd rather call for something that is user controlled to become contextual when people have been clamoring for more control all year. It's almost like the theme song of 2k9.

I agree it shouldn't replace the double cross.

[Monta8]

Re: NBA 2K9 Insider needs to give Gallinari the shamgod move PROOF inside

It's an uncommon move that I can't recall anyone using in a game situation over the past few years (can't find anything aside from Shammgod himself and Gallinari on YouTube either). In 2K9, it replaces the double-cross, a common move that 90% of the league actually uses at some point. I don't like that.

And giving that move (which is basically unstoppable due to the forward momentum and quick side-step involved) to a guy who did it once in Summer League and hasn't even played a regular season game in his pro career seems a bit uh.. hurried? Giving it to Rose and CP3 when they haven't done it IRL is bad enough -- at least they have the handles for it and it's a move that a top-flight PG would do.

Agreed it annoys me that CP and Rose have and it used so often over a double cross it should be a special typed move that u dont see often

[Stumbleweed]

Re: NBA 2K9 Insider needs to give Gallinari the shamgod move PROOF inside

Imagine if we still had 2K8's controls... you could add these special handles-intensive moves to the RT + LT + command tier while leaving the double-cross as RT + command. But NOOOOO, 2K had to trash a great control system and give us one less options where they have to replace common moves in the package with ridiculous ones that should be special and triggered some other way.

Agh, I'll never forgive them for taking away my ball-hand commands on LS. Never. Ruined the game for me. Can't stand still and do a cross-over on command (the "stand and dribble" animations take over and you lose control completely).. they took SO much control away from the user this year.

And yeah Pared, with this year's controls, I'd say that this should be a context-sensitive move simply because it's stupid to lose the double-cross. This move could've been put in the RT + LT + cross command slot I guess, but that's some hidden move that's not even mentioned on the official move list. It's a real hesitation cross (not that uncontrollable one that you trigger by tapping RT then move LS) and you trigger it with RT + LT and the 45-degree crossover motion -- but only certain guys have a move available there. So random...

[Bornindamecca]

Re: NBA 2K9 Insider needs to give Gallinari the shamgod move PROOF inside

You guys are both right, from a certain perspective.

The move should be context sensitive, like the double team split dribble(which is beautiful, nice job 2k). There should be a special combination of player movement and defensive spacing that gives you the different crossover animation.

OR

They could go with what I was talking about before, and allow us to control the timing of the moves. Nothing extreme, just let me do a slow cross, then a fast cross with the double cross. Casual players would never even have to know that it's in the game. So if you want to pull off the Shammgod, you have to do it with the proper timing. Like a "just input" in Soul Calibur. For all other moves, this would reward players with patience and timing, and bring real deception into the ball handle game.

[Stumbleweed]

Re: NBA 2K9 Insider needs to give Gallinari the shamgod move PROOF inside

Or they can fix the damn controls and change them back to 2K8 style and we'd have 8+ move commands vacant. But that would be too easy.

[Pared]

Re: NBA 2K9 Insider needs to give Gallinari the shamgod move PROOF inside

You guys are both right, from a certain perspective.

The move should be context sensitive, like the double team split dribble(which is beautiful, nice job 2k). There should be a special combination of player movement and defensive spacing that gives you the different crossover animation.

OR

They could go with what I was talking about before, and allow us to control the timing of the moves. Nothing extreme, just let me do a slow cross, then a fast cross with the double cross. Casual players would never even have to know that it's in the game. So if you want to pull off the Shammgod, you have to do it with the proper timing. Like a "just input" in Soul Calibur. For all other moves, this would reward players with patience and timing, and bring real deception into the ball handle game.

This I agree with. I just think asking for things to continue to become contextual is just echoing what some now feel is a problem with the series.

We will see many less contextual things as time goes one in certain areas with this series. Bank on it.