rspencer86's 20-Minute All Conference Sliders

[rspencer86]

NOTE FROM MILLENNIUM: THIS FIRST POST ARE RSPENCER'S FINAL SLIDERS.



Hey everyone,

Just thought I would update this thread with my final settings that I have been using for a while now. I've started an open legacy with Western Illinois and it's been a blast so far. I'm currently 5-12 in my first season and trying to claw my way back up the conference standings. My stats are pretty much spot-on... it's cool to go to the Team Stats page and feel that pretty much everything is how it should be.

Gameplay
Difficulty: All-Conference
Half Length: 20 minutes
Simulated Half Length: 20 minutes
Game Speed: 55
Player Speed: 55
Free Throw Difficulty: 75
Player Lock: Off
Real Player FT %: Off
Fatigue: On
Injuries: On
Team Unity: On
Sixth Man: On
Clutch Factor: Off
Pass Icon: On
Def Player Icon: On
Inbound Def Switch: Off
Shot Stick FT: On

Rules
Charging: 100
Blocking: 100
Reaching: 65
Shooting: 60
Loose Ball: 100

Game Sliders (HUM / CPU)
Inside Range Success: 44/44
Mid Range Success: 48/48
3 Point Success: 48/48
Dunk Success: 46/46
Layup Success: 44/44
Close Shot Tendency: 50/40
Midrange Shot Tendency: 50/40
3pt Shot Tendency: 50/20
Drive Tendency: 50/100

Offensive Awareness: 0/0
Defensive Awareness: 100/100
Dunk: 50/50
Ball Handling: 0/0
Off Rebounding: 0/0
Def Rebounding: 0/0
Block: 50/50
Steal: 50/100
Speed: 51/50

Team Unity Effects: 50/50
Dunks In Traffic: 100/100
Screen Success: 30/30
Screen Strength: 30/30
Steal Success: 50/100
Help Defense: 100/100
Help Recovery: 0/0

Energy Fatigue Rate: 53/53
Energy Recover Rate: 50/50
Injury Frequency: 50/50
Injury Effects: 75/75

If you haven't been following the whole thread, I play a "No Switch" defense. That is, while on defense, I never switch players. I find it to be a very fun and fresh way of playing the game.

Like I said, my stats are pretty much spot on. There could be more non-steal turnovers, but that's more of a game issue in general. In my open legacy, I implemented a slow-it-up type offense, hoping to minimize possessions and let my defense rule the day. Sometimes it works... I won my last game 55-48 over Oakland. Sometimes it doesn't... UCLA pounded me 74-52.

The point is, you can run you team however you want to and these sliders should keep the stats realistic. If you run a fast-paced offense, you shouldn't see games get into the 100s on a regular basis with 80 shot attempts per game. If that happens, well, I tried

Anyway, regardless if you find these sliders are for you or not, I hope you find some settings that fit, because this game is just amazing. The fact that I'm still playing this game regularly is a testament to just how good it is.

[rspencer86]

Re: rspencer86's 20-Minute All Conference Sliders

PS3 note: For you 2k Share junkies, these are up! Find it under "rspencer86's Sim Settings."

[stewaat]

Re: rspencer86's 20-Minute All Conference Sliders

What team do you play with?

I believe that has a huge bearing on the correct level. The thing is we always get better at the game.

[DC]

Re: rspencer86's 20-Minute All Conference Sliders

I like that defensive switch house rule; might look into doing something similar when I start my franchise.

[rspencer86]

Re: rspencer86's 20-Minute All Conference Sliders

What team do you play with?

I believe that has a huge bearing on the correct level. The thing is we always get better at the game.

I play with Mizzou. The thing is, I personally believe that the levels simply invisibly bump up all of the sliders for the CPU. So, I think I can achieve a MOP-type challenge on All-Conference, without the cheating AI that comes with it.

I like that defensive switch house rule; might look into doing something similar when I start my franchise.

It is a really fun way to play defense IMO. You can hedge screens, double team, play help defense, slide over and take charges... really opens up a lot of possibilities.

[RAZRr1275]

Re: rspencer86's 20-Minute All Conference Sliders

I'll give these a shot.

[rspencer86]

Re: rspencer86's 20-Minute All Conference Sliders

I made some changes to the sliders, human shooting especially was a little too low, so I bumped those up a bit.

Also changed Free Throw difficulty to 100 in order to make FTs more challenging. I'll play a few more games to see if this is too high.

Also dropped Offensive Awareness to 0 for both sides. I was wary of doing this at first, but it cut down on the ridiculous passes inside for the CPU, and also makes double teaming more effective because you can cause a jump ball every so often. Other than that, the CPU still plays very smart, and will hit the open man out of the double team. Zeroing this out also produces even more non-steal turnovers, which I love.

Reach in fouls went up to 75 to discourage swiping at the ball (most steals IRL occur off of deflections/stolen passes). Steal success drops to 50.

Here are the stats from my last game using the updated settings:

Missouri Tigers at Kansas State Wildcats

Team Stats

			Mizzou		K-State
Score			70		82
Field Goals		31/69		29/59
Field Goal %		45%		49%
3 Pointers		4/18		4/10
3 Point %		22%		40%
Free Throws		4/9		20/36
Free Throw %		44%		56%
Assists			14		19
Turnovers		12		14
Team Fouls		25		11
Total Rebounds		33		45
Offensive Rebounds	7		13
Steals			9		10
Blocks			1		3
Points in Paint		26		26
Bench Points		16		8
Second Chance Pts	8		10
Fast Break Points	9		6

Individual Leaders

K-State
Points: Walker 21, Beasley 20, Hoskins 15
Rebounds: Beasley 12, Stewart 8, Walker 8
Assists: Young 5, Walker 4, Stewart 4
Steals: Beasley 3, Colon 3, Stewart 2
Blocks: Beasley 2, Walker 1
Turnovers: Stewart 5, Walker 3, Young 3

Mizzou
Points: Lyons 16, K. Lawrence 14, Brown 11
Rebounds: Lyons 15, Carroll 5, M. Lawrence 4
Assists: Horton 4, Tiller 3, Hannah 3
Steals: K. Lawrence 3, Hannah 2, Lyons 1
Blocks: Carroll 1
Turnovers: Brown 3, Carroll 3, Hannah 2

The updates are on 2k Share under rspencer86's Sim Settings v2.

[RAZRr1275]

Re: rspencer86's 20-Minute All Conference Sliders

I was just about to ask you to post some stats.

[rspencer86]

Re: rspencer86's 20-Minute All Conference Sliders

I was just about to ask you to post some stats.

Well, there you go!

I was shocked at how K-State was able to get to the line. I've never seen such a disparity in FTA favoring the CPU like that. I average around 15-20 FT per game. But I was helpless as the pounded the ball inside to Beasley over and over.

I'll play a few more today and post those as well.

[RAZRr1275]

Re: rspencer86's 20-Minute All Conference Sliders

I like the way these play. Nice sliders. I'd up the player speed slightly though. Also 3pt shooting needs a slight boost.

[rspencer86]

Re: rspencer86's 20-Minute All Conference Sliders

I like the way these play. Nice sliders. I'd up the player speed slightly though. Also 3pt shooting needs a slight boost.

Thanks. I tried upping the player & game speed to 55, and it seemed a lot more realistic. Seemed like I was controlling actual athletes instead of YMCA league guys, lol. Thanks for the suggestion.

Here are the stats from my latest game:

Richmond Spiders at Missouri Tigers

Team Stats

			Mizzou		Richmond
Score			79		57
Field Goals		32/78		25/59
Field Goal %		41%		42%
3 Pointers		12/32		4/15
3 Point %		38%		27%
Free Throws		3/4		3/4
Free Throw %		75%		75%
Assists			16		19
Turnovers		5		12
Team Fouls		12		9
Total Rebounds		48		29
Offensive Rebounds	16		3
Steals			10		4
Blocks			0		3
Points in Paint		32		22
Bench Points		18		16
Second Chance Pts	18		4
Fast Break Points	10		6

Changes to sliders:

Game Speed to 55
Player Speed to 55
Shooting Fouls to 60

[RAZRr1275]

Re: rspencer86's 20-Minute All Conference Sliders

any more stats or updates?

[rspencer86]

Re: rspencer86's 20-Minute All Conference Sliders

any more stats or updates?

I've made a few tweaks and am getting very close to a final version. I played a game last night (Mizzou against the CPU's Iowa State) that ended in a 69-67 OT win for my Tigers. I'm very happy about how the scoring and stats are turning out with 20 minute halves.

I'll post an update either tonight or tomorrow.

[deadlyCane]

Re: rspencer86's 20-Minute All Conference Sliders

I made some changes to the sliders, human shooting especially was a little too low, so I bumped those up a bit.

Also changed Free Throw difficulty to 100 in order to make FTs more challenging. I'll play a few more games to see if this is too high.

Also dropped Offensive Awareness to 0 for both sides. I was wary of doing this at first, but it cut down on the ridiculous passes inside for the CPU, and also makes double teaming more effective because you can cause a jump ball every so often. Other than that, the CPU still plays very smart, and will hit the open man out of the double team. Zeroing this out also produces even more non-steal turnovers, which I love.

Reach in fouls went up to 75 to discourage swiping at the ball (most steals IRL occur off of deflections/stolen passes). Steal success drops to 50.

Here are the stats from my last game using the updated settings:

Missouri Tigers at Kansas State Wildcats

Team Stats

			Mizzou		K-State
Score			70		82
Field Goals		31/69		29/59
Field Goal %		45%		49%
3 Pointers		4/18		4/10
3 Point %		22%		40%
Free Throws		4/9		20/36
Free Throw %		44%		56%
Assists			14		19
Turnovers		12		14
Team Fouls		25		11
Total Rebounds		33		45
Offensive Rebounds	7		13
Steals			9		10
Blocks			1		3
Points in Paint		26		26
Bench Points		16		8
Second Chance Pts	8		10
Fast Break Points	9		6

Individual Leaders

K-State
Points: Walker 21, Beasley 20, Hoskins 15
Rebounds: Beasley 12, Stewart 8, Walker 8
Assists: Young 5, Walker 4, Stewart 4
Steals: Beasley 3, Colon 3, Stewart 2
Blocks: Beasley 2, Walker 1
Turnovers: Stewart 5, Walker 3, Young 3

Mizzou
Points: Lyons 16, K. Lawrence 14, Brown 11
Rebounds: Lyons 15, Carroll 5, M. Lawrence 4
Assists: Horton 4, Tiller 3, Hannah 3
Steals: K. Lawrence 3, Hannah 2, Lyons 1
Blocks: Carroll 1
Turnovers: Brown 3, Carroll 3, Hannah 2

The updates are on 2k Share under rspencer86's Sim Settings v2.

Those are unrealistic stats: Beasley with only 20-points?

Awe shucks, I'll check 'em out anyway. Been hoping to play 20-min halves.

[rspencer86]

Re: rspencer86's 20-Minute All Conference Sliders

Those are unrealistic stats: Beasley with only 20-points?

Awe shucks, I'll check 'em out anyway. Been hoping to play 20-min halves.

Hey, let's not forget that Beasley only managed 17 points in their loss against the Tigers in Columbia.

I'll try to post my current settings once I get home from work so you guys can give my most recent tweaks a shot.