Article on SDS Game Engine

[ltw0303cavs]

Didn't see this posted so here you go https://www.operationsports.com/what...d1qpfxTVPJAvDA

[mrCPUgeek]

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I personally think it would be a step backwards for them to move to another game engine. You may get better graphics. But at what cost to game play?

At the end of the day, game play is number one priority.


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[jcar0725]

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I personally think it would be a step backwards for them to move to another game engine. You may get better graphics. But at what cost to game play?

At the end of the day, game play is number one priority.


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Gameplay is what makes this game so great. I would have the same concerns.

[Karle]

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The Konami Japanese baseball game uses for graphics the Unreal Engine mentioned in the article. However, they are not held back by the Nintendo Switch.

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[MiracleMet718]

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The Konami Japanese baseball game uses for graphics the Unreal Engine mentioned in the article. However, they are not held back by the Nintendo Switch.

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For every good Unreal Engine game, there are like 5 games that turn out absolutely horrible. For them to move over, it would take awhile to do and they’d have to either fully train or hire all new devs that specifically focus on UE5 and shift everything over. The time and cost to do that isn’t really worth it IMO. It took EA something like 3 years to move over from Ignite to Frostbite for NHL and that was all in-house tech.

[knich1]

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My suggestion is SDS use whatever engine NBA2k is using because that game gets better every year.

Imagine if YOU not the SDS could change players DNA mid season, could start the season on any date you choose, could force wins/losses, could create and add gear for players, create/add cyberfaces, could mass change attributes or tendencies, could change contracts or service time, could change/edit stadiums and adds, etc. That's what you can do in NBA2k

And I suggest making it available on PC.

[Ghost Of The Year]

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You dance with the one that brung ya. I have no issue with Sony sticking with a custom built engine. Just keep customizing it. Despite popular opinion, the grass isn't really greener on the other side. I don't want Sony to be like the dog that drops his bone because he wants another bone he sees in a reflection.

[tessl]

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I personally think it would be a step backwards for them to move to another game engine. You may get better graphics. But at what cost to game play?

At the end of the day, game play is number one priority.


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That's a legit concern. Better graphics with less realistic gameplay would be far worse than what we have now. If there is a problem with gameplay who fixes it - SDS or the third party graphics company?

It would have one potential upside in addition to graphics. It might free up developers to work on other aspects of the game if the third party was handling all the graphics issues.

[MiracleMet718]

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My suggestion is SDS use whatever engine NBA2k is using because that game gets better every year.

Imagine if YOU not the SDS could change players DNA mid season, could start the season on any date you choose, could force wins/losses, could create and add gear for players, create/add cyberfaces, could mass change attributes or tendencies, could change contracts or service time, could change/edit stadiums and adds, etc. That's what you can do in NBA2k

And I suggest making it available on PC.

2k built that in house I believe. Either way, SDS doesn’t need to use a different engine to do any of those things though. They just need to build on what they have and allow for those capabilities.

[Blzer]

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Custom engine or not, they need to bulldoze their game and start from scratch if they're ever going to make major headway in a breaking from their twenty-year-old mold.

This is me still trying to supe up my 1999 Honda Civic EX with year-over-year modifications. She's reliable and last a lifetime, and can still compete at times with cars of a current generation... but at the end of the day, we know what runs under the hood is from a previous decade, and all things being equal we can go other places with a new car altogether.

I don't know if they'll ever do this though, because any time we go into a new generation they are so focused on feature parity with the previous generation. The PS6 version will have to go in tandem with the PS5 version, as the PS5 version was with the PS4 version. So long as they continue on that route, we'll be going nowhere fast.

I've abandoned this title long ago because they've abandoned me and my wants and needs. I keep coming back to see if they'll pull me along (a PC version might do the trick), but they're stuck in the oughts as far as I'm concerned.

[ZeroFied]

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I would argue that realism and immersion are king. Gameplay would be right behind it. I do confess that I don't care at all about Stories or DD.. I just want a beautiful and hyper realistic baseball game with a rock-solid franchise mode. I realize that I am probably in the minority though.

[knich1]

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2k built that in house I believe. Either way, SDS doesn’t need to use a different engine to do any of those things though. They just need to build on what they have and allow for those capabilities.

I don't care what engine is used. My point is that 2k has a far superior product (and I'm not an NBA fan) that encompasses all the things we want in THE SHOW that we've been asking for for years and they haven't delivered. Yes...gameplay is amazing and that's what keeps us coming back. But so is the gameplay in 2k, so are the graphics, so are the sliders, so are the multitude of options, etc. You can't say the same thing about THE SHOW.

Figure out what 2k is doing and bring it to THE SHOW! If that can be accomplished using existing engine, fantastic...I just haven't seen it yet. Heck..the schedules are wrong every year. How is that possible with this fantastic engine?

One final comment: I recall when 2k did MLB it was a damn good product and we're talking about a decade ago. Imagine if 2k had kept producing baseball games....

[tessl]

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I would argue that realism and immersion are king. Gameplay would be right behind it. I do confess that I don't care at all about Stories or DD.. I just want a beautiful and hyper realistic baseball game with a rock-solid franchise mode. I realize that I am probably in the minority though.

Isn't gameplay synonymous with realism?

[mastershake88]

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The game looks old and outdated. Graphically people look like clay, environments are dead and dated.

At some point they have to earn the $70.00

[MiracleMet718]

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I don't care what engine is used. My point is that 2k has a far superior product (and I'm not an NBA fan) that encompasses all the things we want in THE SHOW that we've been asking for for years and they haven't delivered. Yes...gameplay is amazing and that's what keeps us coming back. But so is the gameplay in 2k, so are the graphics, so are the sliders, so are the multitude of options, etc. You can't say the same thing about THE SHOW.

Figure out what 2k is doing and bring it to THE SHOW! If that can be accomplished using existing engine, fantastic...I just haven't seen it yet. Heck..the schedules are wrong every year. How is that possible with this fantastic engine?

One final comment: I recall when 2k did MLB it was a damn good product and we're talking about a decade ago. Imagine if 2k had kept producing baseball games....

The engine has nothing to do with what you are asking for though, that’s all my point is.

Every sports game should be looking at what 2k has done, and that includes 2k. They’ve dropped off the last couple of years and have gotten away from adding in the details that they did before and the product has been hurt by it a bit, even though the gameplay is still great.

Also maybe we are thinking of different years of the game, but 2k’s baseball game was absolutely horrible. When they got the license over EA’s MVP, it ruined baseball titles on all platforms until SDS had to make it for cross-platform a few years ago. Outside of the presentation bit (long live Johnny Miller and RIP Joe Morgan), the 2k baseball series played horribly and the gameplay was notoriously bad and filled with bugs.

I’d much rather see EA come back in with MVP again since that was setting the standard at the time. Don’t know that I’d trust EA to not mess it up like they have with their other series, but MVP 2005 is still up there as one of the better baseball games of all time. But SDS has always been the gold standard for baseball games, it’s just hard to see that now since nobody is competing with them anymore.