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  • phillyfan23
    MVP
    • Feb 2005
    • 2301

    #1

    **PHILLYFAN23 ALL STAR NHL 25 SLIDERS**

    Focus is to have simulation feel nhl hockey where ratings matter, you will see bad players fumble the puck more, fail to receive passes and lose the puck.

    This slider set works best with custom team strategy settings that I have previously released, and will update for 2024-2025. Stay tuned for that.

    The must change for the custom strategy are 2 items:

    1) forward line cycle/shoot slider needs to be all the way to the left to promote cycling. On default, the cpu ai is WAY too shot happy.

    2) Dmen shot tendency all the way to the right, to maximize dmen shooting. Since each player has a shot bias rating, Erik Karlsson will still shoot much more than a Luke Schenn/Nick Seeler types.

    Will update sliders throughout the season iff needed.

    EDIT: UPDATED DEC 21,2024

    Skating in general made slower and heavier
    To balance shot speed is increased, because slower gamespeed yields to slower shots. Increased the shots to counteract the cheap blocker side goals as well. Doesn't totally eliminate it, but I see it few and far between now.

    Penalty sliders also made heavy edits since my playstyle is more conservative and had too many user PPs and not enough CPU PPs.




    Controller Settings
    Control - SKILL STICK
    Auto Back Skate - OFF
    Auto Hustle - OFF
    Shooting Controls - CAMERA RELATIVE
    Vibration - PREFERENCE


    Rules
    Game Play Presets: Custom (Full Sim)
    Game Style: Custom (Full Sim)
    Post Whistle Rules: Authentic
    Rules: Custom (NHL)
    Fighting: 2/2
    Icing: Hybrid
    Injuries: On
    Offsides: Delayed
    Penalties: 4/4
    Tie Break: Single OT 5 on 5
    Trapezoid Rule: Off
    Penalty Time Scaling: 0/6
    Coincidental Penalty Time Scale: 0/6

    Game Settings
    Game Play Presets: Custom (Full Sim)
    Game Style: Custom (Full Sim)
    Period Length: 10 mins
    Difficulty: ALL STAR
    Camera: ZONE , CLASSIC, ICE
    Goalie Camera: High
    Shootout Camera: Dynamic Low or ACTION
    Away Line Changes: AUTO
    Away Shot Aim: Manual
    Home Line Changes: AUTO
    Home Shot Aim: Manual


    GENERAL
    VERSION : 1.00
    Atrribute Effects 5/10
    Broken Stick Frequency 33/100
    GAME SPEED 1/6
    FATIGUE EFFECT 50
    FATIGUE RECOVERY 70
    INJURIES 47

    SKATING
    BACK SKATING 100
    HUSTLE TYPE Authentic
    PUCK CARRIER AGILITY 0
    PUCK CARRIER SKATING 98
    PLAYER ACCELERATION 25
    SKATING SPEED 64
    SKATING AGILITY 0

    SHOOTING
    ONE TIMER ACCURACY 32
    SHOT ACCURACY 43
    POWER 77
    SLAPSHOT ACCURACY 55
    SLAPSHOT POWER 50

    PASSING
    MANUAL PASSING ON
    PASS ASSIST 30
    MIN PASS SPEED 33
    MAX PASS SPEED 65
    SAUCER 60
    PASS ACCURACY 0/30 (CPU/HUMAN)
    INTERCEPTION 75/75
    PASS RECEPTION EASE 25
    REACTION TIME 52
    PUCK CONTROL RATING EFFECT 63
    SPEED RECEPTION EFFECT 41
    PICKUP TYPE EFFECT 52
    BOUNCING PUCK 30

    PUCK CONTROL
    STICK, LEGS AND BODY FOR BOTH
    STICK CONTACT IMMUNITY 0
    PUCK CONTROL 50
    DEKING IMPACT 53
    SPIN DEKING IMPACT 50
    SKATING IMPACT 53

    GOALIES
    COVER FREQUENCY 88
    PASSING 18
    GCCRT 50
    SAVE REACTION TIME 0 ( i'm currently testing 100/100 to see if those cheap goalie animations could be reduced further)
    GDRT 50
    SCREEN EFFECT 85
    SCREEN PERSISTENCE 50

    CHECKING
    BOARD EFFECT NON CARRIER 100
    BOARD EFFECT PUCK CARRIER 100
    HITTING ASSISTANCE 70
    STUMBLE THRESHOLD 75
    FALL AND STUMBLE EASE 24
    AGGRESSION CPU 10/USER 50 ....to increase human penalties.
    HITTING POWER 2
    SIZE EFFECT 70
    SPEED EFFECT 50
    CHECKING/BALANCE 83
    PREPAREDNESS EFFECT 51
    INCIDENTAL CONTACT EFFECT 70
    POKE ACCURACY 30
    POKE POWER 30
    STICK LIFT 50

    PENALTIES ( still testing these, will update if needed. NHL average is 3 powerplays per team in a game)
    CPU PENALTIES 40
    CPU TEAMMATES PENALTIES 100
    TRIPPING (CPU/USER) 85/100
    SLASHING 65/100
    ELBOWING 80/100
    HIGH STICKING 85/100
    CROSS CHECKING 80/100
    BOARDING 85/100
    CHARGING 85/100
    DELAY OF GAME 65/75
    HOLDING 62/67
    HOOKING 85/100
    INTERFERENCE 85 100

    AI

    AI LEARNING 0
    CPU DIFFICULTY 0
    FACEOFF DIFFICULTY 50 ( depends your skill level, but shoot for a slidern to get you around 50/50 on faceoffs)
    FIGHT DIFFICULTY 63
    CPU STRAT ADJUSTMENTS 0 (If CPU down in the last few minutes, change to 3/6
    USER 0
    BAP STRAT Adjustments 0




    For the team strategies: I have 3 values for forward line and 1 value for d lines.

    I set ALL forward lines to 0/10 cycle shoot, because the cpu forwards are a little too shot happy.

    So a forward line that is OVR 3 5 3

    Is using overload strategy
    Carry/dump: 3/10
    Cycle shoot : 0/10
    Efficiency/energy: 5/10
    Dont block/block: 3/10

    Dmen lines I put ALL lines as 10/10 cycle shoot to promote dmen shots because theyre slightly pass happy.

    So dman line with a digit of 4

    Hold line /pinch: 4/10
    Cycle/shoot: 10/10
    Attached Files
    Last edited by phillyfan23; 12-23-2024, 07:56 PM.
  • Armor and Sword
    The Lama
    • Sep 2010
    • 21744

    #2
    Re: **PHILLYFAN23 ALL STAR NHL 25 SLIDERS**

    So without 30 team control in franchise mode, how do you edit each teams strategies and have them stick?
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    • Fiddy
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      • Jul 2002
      • 12630

      #3
      Re: **PHILLYFAN23 ALL STAR NHL 25 SLIDERS**

      Originally posted by Armor and Sword
      So without 30 team control in franchise mode, how do you edit each teams strategies and have them stick?
      Only way to do that is Season Mode I do believe, but none of the changes you see in Franchise are in Season Mode.
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      • phillyfan23
        MVP
        • Feb 2005
        • 2301

        #4
        Re: **PHILLYFAN23 ALL STAR NHL 25 SLIDERS**

        Originally posted by Armor and Sword
        So without 30 team control in franchise mode, how do you edit each teams strategies and have them stick?
        Go to Roster on main page:

        Roster>Edit Lines> Strategy.

        Change all your teams' strats here so it will automatically load if you play franchise, season or play now. This will stick.

        I also play season mode so I do have 30 team control and can make sure lines are accurate to real life. But within franchise I presume the strats will stick as long as you set the cpu strat adjustment slider to 0 in the gameplay slider page. You can change this to 2/6 when cpu is down 2 goals in 3rd period to make them more aggressive, or if you want the cpu to pull goalie late in game. This way, the team strategies will be used for most of the game.

        I have an excel file with all teams strats from last season. is that shareable here?

        thx
        Last edited by phillyfan23; 09-28-2024, 07:20 PM.

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        • Armor and Sword
          The Lama
          • Sep 2010
          • 21744

          #5
          Re: **PHILLYFAN23 ALL STAR NHL 25 SLIDERS**

          Originally posted by phillyfan23
          Go to Roster on main page:

          Roster>Edit Lines> Strategy.

          Change all your teams' strats here so it will automatically load if you play franchise, season or play now. This will stick.

          I also play season mode so I do have 30 team control and can make sure lines are accurate to real life. But within franchise I presume the strats will stick as long as you set the cpu strat adjustment slider to 0 in the gameplay slider page. You can change this to 2/6 when cpu is down 2 goals in 3rd period to make them more aggressive, or if you want the cpu to pull goalie late in game. This way, the team strategies will be used for most of the game.

          I have an excel file with all teams strats from last season. is that shareable here?

          thx

          That’s awesome. And yeah you should be able to share that spreadsheet pf all the teams strategies!
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          • phillyfan23
            MVP
            • Feb 2005
            • 2301

            #6
            Re: **PHILLYFAN23 ALL STAR NHL 25 SLIDERS**

            Originally posted by Armor and Sword
            That’s awesome. And yeah you should be able to share that spreadsheet pf all the teams strategies!
            I've included the team strategies on 1st post. I will share the excel to anyone who wants to make changes to their teams. Excel file is not available as a file for upload on OS.Each team was researched, but I'm sure a specific team fan will have even a better handle on accurate team strategies.

            Then we could have a file with really accurate strats to share
            Last edited by phillyfan23; 09-28-2024, 08:49 PM.

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            • Fiddy
              Twitch/YouTube: Fiddy14
              • Jul 2002
              • 12630

              #7
              Re: **PHILLYFAN23 ALL STAR NHL 25 SLIDERS**

              Originally posted by Armor and Sword
              So without 30 team control in franchise mode, how do you edit each teams strategies and have them stick?
              I read this wrong, I thought you meant have 30 team control etc. Not just if the Strats stick in Franchise after you change them prior to starting a franchise.
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              • Cycloniac
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                • May 2009
                • 6486

                #8
                Re: **PHILLYFAN23 ALL STAR NHL 25 SLIDERS**

                Strategy changes don't stick in franchise, only season mode and play now.
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                • Christian9
                  Pro
                  • Dec 2002
                  • 526

                  #9
                  Re: **PHILLYFAN23 ALL STAR NHL 25 SLIDERS**

                  Really appreciate all the work that went into the spreadsheet, but I’m a little confused what the numbers are? They don’t match up with the number of options (forward lines, defensive pairings, for example).

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                  • phillyfan23
                    MVP
                    • Feb 2005
                    • 2301

                    #10
                    Re: **PHILLYFAN23 ALL STAR NHL 25 SLIDERS**

                    Originally posted by Christian9
                    Really appreciate all the work that went into the spreadsheet, but I’m a little confused what the numbers are? They don’t match up with the number of options (forward lines, defensive pairings, for example).
                    My apologies, i wrote an explanation on first post.

                    I set all forward lines to 0/10 cycle shoot
                    I set all dmen lines to 10/10 cycle shoot

                    A forward line with 3,5, 3

                    3 carry dump
                    0 cycle shoot
                    5 efficiency/energy
                    3 dont block/ block

                    A dmen line of a number 7
                    7/10 hold line/ pinch
                    10/10 cycle shoot
                    Last edited by phillyfan23; 10-04-2024, 10:29 PM.

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                    • Christian9
                      Pro
                      • Dec 2002
                      • 526

                      #11
                      Re: **PHILLYFAN23 ALL STAR NHL 25 SLIDERS**

                      Ahhh my mistake. Those [emoji638] are always “hard coded”. Ok got it. Thanks.


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                      • WeAreAllKings
                        Pro
                        • Dec 2016
                        • 568

                        #12
                        Re: **PHILLYFAN23 ALL STAR NHL 25 SLIDERS**

                        Originally posted by phillyfan23
                        Go to Roster on main page:

                        Roster>Edit Lines> Strategy.

                        Change all your teams' strats here so it will automatically load if you play franchise, season or play now. This will stick.

                        I also play season mode so I do have 30 team control and can make sure lines are accurate to real life. But within franchise I presume the strats will stick as long as you set the cpu strat adjustment slider to 0 in the gameplay slider page. You can change this to 2/6 when cpu is down 2 goals in 3rd period to make them more aggressive, or if you want the cpu to pull goalie late in game. This way, the team strategies will be used for most of the game.

                        I have an excel file with all teams strats from last season. is that shareable here?

                        thx


                        When you say the main page, you mean in the main menus where you set your active roster right?


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                        • phillyfan23
                          MVP
                          • Feb 2005
                          • 2301

                          #13
                          Re: **PHILLYFAN23 ALL STAR NHL 25 SLIDERS**

                          Originally posted by WeAreAllKings
                          When you say the main page, you mean in the main menus where you set your active roster right?


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                          Yes thats right. You set your strategies in main menus...:and it should stick for any game mode u play on. Season or franchise

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                          • kamackeris76
                            MVP
                            • Oct 2012
                            • 1647

                            #14
                            Re: **PHILLYFAN23 ALL STAR NHL 25 SLIDERS**

                            Originally posted by phillyfan23
                            Yes thats right. You set your strategies in main menus...:and it should stick for any game mode u play on. Season or franchise
                            Is that correct then franchise too? Just that cycloniac said otherwise further up? Don't want to start, put all the work in for nothing lol

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                            • phillyfan23
                              MVP
                              • Feb 2005
                              • 2301

                              #15
                              Re: **PHILLYFAN23 ALL STAR NHL 25 SLIDERS**

                              Originally posted by kamackeris76
                              Is that correct then franchise too? Just that cycloniac said otherwise further up? Don't want to start, put all the work in for nothing lol

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                              Yes as long as cpu strat adjustment is set to 0 it wont change.

                              Try changing one team strategy and see if it sticks in franchise

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