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  • gatorbait2006nc
    Rookie
    • Mar 2008
    • 5

    #1

    No Formation Subs Or Mass Subs?

    The more I read into this game the more I’m starting to believe that dynasty mode just isn’t going to be very good. At least not at first until several patches hit. Recruiting looks easy and now I’m hearing the CPU doesn’t sub their guys in blowouts. Which is odd because it seems that would go directly against this fancy new wear and tear system. Also going to kill simmed stats.

    The number lock, no create a player for dynasty mode, all these other little things are going kill realism in dynasty mode.

    Hopefully there’s a day 1 patch to fix some of these issues that will make the game fun for the people they keep saying this game was made for. Until then I’m getting a real Madden vibe. A game that looks amazing but the small details just aren’t great. RTG might have some replay value though.


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  • letsgopens66
    Pro
    • Aug 2010
    • 841

    #2
    Re: No formation subs or mass subs?

    That’s a bummer if slightly easy recruiting (which sounds like will be tweaked anyways) and made subs are two minor things that kill the game for you.

    Simmed stats was bug as well
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    • WeArePSU40
      Pro
      • May 2024
      • 513

      #3
      Re: No formation subs or mass subs?

      I have never developed a video game, so take this with a grain of salt…

      But I don’t get why there needs to be a Day 1 patch? I get it for the annual release cycles just given how things are, but this team had what… 4 years? So you’re telling me you are going to fix something in a few weeks that you couldn’t do in 4 years?

      EA should hire like 50 ppl to come play the shame and slice and dice the sh*t out of it to find all of this stuff. Hell you could hire 50 ppl off this board and get what you need. Their QA seems to be lacking.

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      • BadAssHskr
        XSX
        • Jun 2003
        • 3490

        #4
        Re: No formation subs or mass subs?

        how can we have a college football game with no mass subs?
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        • nickfa83
          Rookie
          • Feb 2007
          • 86

          #5
          Re: No formation subs or mass subs?

          Originally posted by WeArePSU40
          I have never developed a video game, so take this with a grain of salt…

          But I don’t get why there needs to be a Day 1 patch? I get it for the annual release cycles just given how things are, but this team had what… 4 years? So you’re telling me you are going to fix something in a few weeks that you couldn’t do in 4 years?

          EA should hire like 50 ppl to come play the shame and slice and dice the sh*t out of it to find all of this stuff. Hell you could hire 50 ppl off this board and get what you need. Their QA seems to be lacking.
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          • Armor and Sword
            The Lama
            • Sep 2010
            • 21715

            #6
            Re: No formation subs or mass subs?

            Originally posted by BadAssHskr
            how can we have a college football game with no mass subs?
            And is this absolutely confirmed??
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            • letsgopens66
              Pro
              • Aug 2010
              • 841

              #7
              Re: No formation subs or mass subs?

              Originally posted by WeArePSU40
              I have never developed a video game, so take this with a grain of salt…

              But I don’t get why there needs to be a Day 1 patch? I get it for the annual release cycles just given how things are, but this team had what… 4 years? So you’re telling me you are going to fix something in a few weeks that you couldn’t do in 4 years?

              EA should hire like 50 ppl to come play the shame and slice and dice the sh*t out of it to find all of this stuff. Hell you could hire 50 ppl off this board and get what you need. Their QA seems to be lacking.
              Doesn’t every game have a day 1 platch these days? Even for games that have a several year dev cycle
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              • Helios12787
                MVP
                • Mar 2006
                • 1626

                #8
                Re: No formation subs or mass subs?

                As confirmed as we can have (from the AMA from the guy who showed all the dynasty footage)

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                • TripleCrown9
                  Keep the Faith
                  • May 2010
                  • 23645

                  #9
                  Re: No formation subs or mass subs?

                  Almost every game that releases has a Day 1 patch, to fix and adjust things they have worked on since the game went gold and got shipped out.
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                  • canes21
                    Hall Of Fame
                    • Sep 2008
                    • 22761

                    #10
                    Re: No formation subs or mass subs?

                    Originally posted by WeArePSU40
                    I have never developed a video game, so take this with a grain of salt…

                    But I don’t get why there needs to be a Day 1 patch? I get it for the annual release cycles just given how things are, but this team had what… 4 years? So you’re telling me you are going to fix something in a few weeks that you couldn’t do in 4 years?

                    EA should hire like 50 ppl to come play the shame and slice and dice the sh*t out of it to find all of this stuff. Hell you could hire 50 ppl off this board and get what you need. Their QA seems to be lacking.
                    The game has to go gold at some point before release. That's the version that ships on physical discs and is uploaded to the store as 1.0. They don't stop working on the game between the day of going gold and the release date, so the updates and fixes they made in that timeframe go into the day 1 patch.
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                    • Datninja619
                      MVP
                      • Jul 2012
                      • 1924

                      #11
                      Re: No formation subs or mass subs?

                      Originally posted by Armor and Sword
                      And is this absolutely confirmed??
                      Per Not The Expert AMA at least.
                      https://www.reddit.com/r/NCAAFBseries/s/6DseqlntNy

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                      • nickfa83
                        Rookie
                        • Feb 2007
                        • 86

                        #12
                        Re: No formation subs or mass subs?

                        Originally posted by Armor and Sword
                        And is this absolutely confirmed??

                        Q: What was one thing that caught you off guard, either good or bad?


                        "No formation subs is bizarre. You also can’t sub in the 1st team or 2nd team. Training results doesn’t show how much a player went up in overall. Quality of life things that I wish were there."
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                        • fballturkey
                          MVP
                          • Jul 2011
                          • 2372

                          #13
                          Re: No formation subs or mass subs?

                          Originally posted by letsgopens66
                          That’s a bummer if slightly easy recruiting (which sounds like will be tweaked anyways) and made subs are two minor things that kill the game for you.

                          Simmed stats was bug as well
                          Formation subs are a pretty huge deal with wear and tear, but also just in general. They’re used a ton in college football. ‘14 had it, Madden has it, that’s a shocking thing to leave out.
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                          • Armor and Sword
                            The Lama
                            • Sep 2010
                            • 21715

                            #14
                            Re: No formation subs or mass subs?

                            Originally posted by fballturkey
                            Formation subs are a pretty huge deal with wear and tear, but also just in general. They’re used a ton in college football. ‘14 had it, Madden has it, that’s a shocking thing to leave out.
                            Agreed it is quite shocking.

                            Now I wonder if there is a formation sub menu in the dynasty hub where we can set up formation subs pre game.

                            But yes that is an odd QOL omission.
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                            • WeArePSU40
                              Pro
                              • May 2024
                              • 513

                              #15
                              Re: No Formation Subs Or Mass Subs?

                              Thanks everyone! My video game development knowledge is zero, and I’m not even a big gamer outside of college football, FIFA, and campaign mode COD.

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