How does ProPlay work from a technical standpoint ? Will there be animation update ?

[spinoff]

Hello everyone.
Could someone please explain clearly and technically what ProPlay is? I don't want to know what it does; I already know that. I want to understand how it works from a technical perspective. Are there multiple cameras on the field that enable player volume measurement?

And is it true that there will be updates throughout the year? For instance, do the combo breakdowns change during the year? I would appreciate a response with evidence, in other words, with official explanations. Thank you.

[DocHolliday]

Re: How does ProPlay work from a technical standpoint ? Will there be animation updat

They made it seem like they could update animations throughout the year, however that could have been sneaky marketing talk.

In a nutshell I don’t think anyone is sure.


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[EarvGotti]

Re: How does ProPlay work from a technical standpoint ? Will there be animation updat

Bro said he wants a response with evidence. Better go hit up Mike Wang fam.

[spinoff]

Re: How does ProPlay work from a technical standpoint ? Will there be animation updat

Bro said he wants a response with evidence. Better go hit up Mike Wang fam.

lol
In my country, the press says that 2k generates Proplay animations using AI. But I often follow Mike Wang and Daczar, and it seems to me they've never said that. I think there are bound to be cameras like FIFA's hypermotion. The question is: do we need several cameras to get the player's colume, or is one enough?

And where's the official info on these updates? I've reread the courtside, it's nowhere to be found.

[djflock]

Re: How does ProPlay work from a technical standpoint ? Will there be animation updat

Hello everyone.
Could someone please explain clearly and technically what ProPlay is? I don't want to know what it does; I already know that. I want to understand how it works from a technical perspective. Are there multiple cameras on the field that enable player volume measurement?

And is it true that there will be updates throughout the year? For instance, do the combo breakdowns change during the year? I would appreciate a response with evidence, in other words, with official explanations. Thank you.

I feel like they may be more likely to add packages for players who don't have them maybe.

Like Lebron runs the way he does, shoots how he does, and dribbles how he does. I don't really see them updating packages in season to add a dribble move that he just did.

They said there are cameras on the court. I don't think they are 2k specific, just the cameras that the NBA uses for tracking things like how many miles the player has run on floor and things like that.

[Smirkin Dirk]

Re: How does ProPlay work from a technical standpoint ? Will there be animation updat

It’s IP they won’t want competitors to know. It might leak but doubt they’ll go in depth.


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[ForeverVersatile]

Re: How does ProPlay work from a technical standpoint ? Will there be animation updat

They can add during the season. I remember a specific animation being added for Steph the second half of the season for 23. They’ve being sneaking animations in the game for the last few years even before the whole seasons thing.


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[hesko]

Re: How does ProPlay work from a technical standpoint ? Will there be animation updat

either way, pro play has me amped if kyrie stays healthy!
wonder how much it'll capture tho?

[OfficialQbN]

Re: How does ProPlay work from a technical standpoint ? Will there be animation updat

I would guess AI analyzing footage of a player then spitting out an animation based off what it saw. I would assume this is why they said its more difficult to do ProPlay for much older players because the footage from their games is probably too grainy / out of focus for the AI to parse motion data from.

[Justonepost]

Re: How does ProPlay work from a technical standpoint ? Will there be animation updat

No such tech exists.

It is a blatant marketing lie.

The only thing they can do is simply motion capture new moves.

If you watch this video, you'll see how something similar is meant to work and how, when it does, it looks 100 times better than the slidey and canned 2K stuff with the ball warping and missing frames.

https://youtu.be/M5hU0kuZD8k?si=xUf4aycLqwPZkyoj

This tech still needs cameras and cannot be done by simply matching something in a video as 2K infer. It's a lie. All they do is get someone to copy the move with a mocap suit on.

[hesko]

Re: How does ProPlay work from a technical standpoint ? Will there be animation updat

i know the technology has evolved since we've seen the inspired ent. clips though.
not implying its the same as pro play, but speaking towards the fluidity of "realistic"
movement and spacing on a basketball court

[venem557]

Re: How does ProPlay work from a technical standpoint ? Will there be animation updat

From reading this article: https://nba2kw.com/nba-2k24-proplay-...-game-changer/

It would be a damn lawsuit for this to just be mo cap. They are clearly saying it's a gameplay engine. They are clearly saying it generates the animations. They are even saying it's going to take time away from what the humans do. And to top it off, they clearly say it's not mo cap, different from mo cap and better than mo cap.


I don't know how it does it or how much of the final product is the engine vs a human touching up a very rough draft. But what 2k is CLAIMING is that they have the gaming engine that generates animations based off something that they aren't explaining.

[hesko]

Re: How does ProPlay work from a technical standpoint ? Will there be animation updat

the defender still doesn't look at the basket result after the shot. hopefully this will be looked at in the coming future or for next years game. give defenders a sense of awareness that aint 2k magic.