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  • icicle22
    MVP
    • Jul 2002
    • 2395

    #1

    Injured players counting again 53 man roster

    I am trying to get my Browns franchise setup. I started the franchise with existing injuries so I have 3 player that are out for the year. I just finished preseason week 3 and I am tweaking my roster to match the real roster as of today.

    What do I with these guys who are hurt, but I cannot cut, and cannot seem to move to the IR? Am I missing something? If not, they are literally dead weight taking up roster spots all year long.

    Let me know if this is something obvious that I am missing here. Thanks.
  • Hooe
    Hall Of Fame
    • Aug 2002
    • 21554

    #2
    Re: Injured players counting again 53 man roster

    As far as I can tell, the game has already handled this for you.

    If you started your franchise with the latest roster update, the three Browns players with pre-existing injuries (WR Jakeem Grant, WR Michael Woods, MLB Jacob Phillips) are already on Injured Reserve. You don't have the option to IR them because they are already IR'd for you. This information is displayed in the Injury Report screen.

    Additionally, when I start a Browns franchise with this roster update, I count that the Browns have 74 players on the roster in the View Roster UI, but the game (correctly) only counts 71 active players in the roster count in the upper right-hand corner; the three already on IR don't count, which is correct. In Preseason Week 4, the game prompts me to cut 18 players, which is only correct if the game thinks I have 71 active players (71 - 18 = 53).
    Last edited by Hooe; 08-29-2023, 09:49 PM.

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    • icicle22
      MVP
      • Jul 2002
      • 2395

      #3
      Re: Injured players counting again 53 man roster

      Originally posted by CM Hooe
      As far as I can tell, the game has already handled this for you.

      If you started your franchise with the latest roster update, the three Browns players with pre-existing injuries (WR Jakeem Grant, WR Michael Woods, MLB Jacob Phillips) are already on Injured Reserve. You don't have the option to IR them because they are already IR'd for you.

      Additionally, when I start a Browns franchise with this roster update, I count that the Browns have 74 players on the roster in the View Roster UI, but the game (correctly) only counts 71 active players in the roster count in the upper right-hand corner; the three already on IR don't count, which is correct. In Preseason Week 4, the game prompts me to cut 18 players, which is only correct if the game thinks I have 71 active players (71 - 18 = 53).
      Jakeem Grant wasn't injured when I got the roster. Still, Jacob Phillips is listed in my roster under linebackers. When I got to week 4 of preseason (I didn't realize that Madden 24 treats this like a bye week and that's when they make you cut down, Woods is no longer injured and I was able to move him to my practice squad to free up on of the 4 remaining slots that I needed to cut.

      I just manually counted how many players are on my team in the roster page and there are 54. But I am at 53 so even though IR players show up on your roster, I guess they don't count against the 53 man limit.

      Good to know. So what do I do with Jakeem Grant? I wish you could manually injure players like on MLB the Show.

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      • BIGBLUEFAN2023
        Rookie
        • Aug 2023
        • 111

        #4
        Re: Injured players counting again 53 man roster

        Originally posted by icicle22
        Jakeem Grant wasn't injured when I got the roster. Still, Jacob Phillips is listed in my roster under linebackers. When I got to week 4 of preseason (I didn't realize that Madden 24 treats this like a bye week and that's when they make you cut down, Woods is no longer injured and I was able to move him to my practice squad to free up on of the 4 remaining slots that I needed to cut.

        I just manually counted how many players are on my team in the roster page and there are 54. But I am at 53 so even though IR players show up on your roster, I guess they don't count against the 53 man limit.

        Good to know. So what do I do with Jakeem Grant? I wish you could manually injure players like on MLB the Show.
        Unfortunately, it is impossible to set rosters in Madden to perfectly match Opening Week 53 man rosters. There are always players going on IR late that aren't set with the Week One roster, as well as players on PUP that the game has no designation for. Add to that, the practice squads are not up to date with only 12 slots and players having to meet the old criteria. Personally, I'm not going to die on that hill this year. I'm just going to set it as close to real life and roll with it.

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        • ajra21
          MVP
          • Oct 2011
          • 2170

          #5
          Re: Injured players counting again 53 man roster

          Yup, it's almost impossible to get the roster 100% accurate because teams make so many changes and often do it late on Thursdays and Fridays.


          When I start my main franchise, I just hope to have the correct guys on IR.

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          • icicle22
            MVP
            • Jul 2002
            • 2395

            #6
            Re: Injured players counting again 53 man roster

            So.....does Madden allow you to bring back a player who is on IR after so many weeks if he is healed? Say I have someone who will be injured for 8 weeks. If I put him on IR, will I be able to bring him back when his injury is healed?

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            • Hooe
              Hall Of Fame
              • Aug 2002
              • 21554

              #7
              Re: Injured players counting again 53 man roster

              Originally posted by icicle22
              So.....does Madden allow you to bring back a player who is on IR after so many weeks if he is healed? Say I have someone who will be injured for 8 weeks. If I put him on IR, will I be able to bring him back when his injury is healed?
              Madden still uses the pre-COVID rules for Injured Reserve. So yes, you are able to return a player from IR provided:

              - you placed him on IR during the regular season (not the preseason; so any player with a pre-existing injury and was IR'd automatically on that account cannot return)
              - the player you wish to return has stayed on IR for eight weeks
              - you have not already returned two players from IR during the current season
              - you have an open spot on your roster (this is a Madden-specific requirement)

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              • UFCMPunk
                All Star
                • Jan 2016
                • 8740

                #8
                Re: Injured players counting again 53 man roster

                The day we get Manual Injuries added to Franchise and we can add or remove injuries ourselves to make accurate rosters will be a great one. Most of the time, if I know a player is out for the year I release them into free agency or if possible put them on the Practice Squad.

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                • briz1046
                  MVP
                  • May 2013
                  • 1017

                  #9
                  Re: Injured players counting again 53 man roster

                  I have what appears to be relatively do-able suggestions on how to improve this :-

                  1) make PS 16 slots ( 8 with eligibility as now and 8 w/o eligibility criteria
                  OR if 16 slots not possible have 8 with and 4 w/o criteria

                  2) make ALL IR returnable when / if the injury duration has expired but only after week 4 or 6 of the season .
                  This would be a compromise that would cover IR /PUP / SUS etc w/o too much inaccuracy

                  Of course this won't happen because .... Madden franchise ...which seems to only change on a geological time scale and when it does becomes a bug ridden mess .
                  Arguing with idiots is like playing chess with a pigeon .... No matter how good you are , the bird is going to **** on the board and strut around like it won anyway .

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                  • jerwoods
                    MVP
                    • Jan 2009
                    • 2994

                    #10
                    Re: Injured players counting again 53 man roster

                    right now when u load a cfm the players are 3'098 and last year i was able to get to 3'348 so i think the player limit is between 3'350 and 3'400

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                    • jerwoods
                      MVP
                      • Jan 2009
                      • 2994

                      #11
                      Re: Injured players counting again 53 man roster

                      Originally posted by briz1046
                      I have what appears to be relatively do-able suggestions on how to improve this :-

                      1) make PS 16 slots ( 8 with eligibility as now and 8 w/o eligibility criteria
                      OR if 16 slots not possible have 8 with and 4 w/o criteria

                      2) make ALL IR returnable when / if the injury duration has expired but only after week 4 or 6 of the season .
                      This would be a compromise that would cover IR /PUP / SUS etc w/o too much inaccuracy

                      Of course this won't happen because .... Madden franchise ...which seems to only change on a geological time scale and when it does becomes a bug ridden mess .
                      the ps rules are 6 with any year exp and 10 2 years or less

                      what ea shouild do is make rosters expand in CFM from 53 to 60 and then this way they dont have to change their ps rules

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                      • briz1046
                        MVP
                        • May 2013
                        • 1017

                        #12
                        Re: Injured players counting again 53 man roster

                        Originally posted by jerwoods
                        the ps rules are 6 with any year exp and 10 2 years or less

                        what ea shouild do is make rosters expand in CFM from 53 to 60 and then this way they dont have to change their ps rules
                        Whilst I think this is roughly true I think its actually more complex than that , and Maddens version of years experience is simplified as opposed to how the NFL actually calculates this .

                        Expanding the 53 to 60 would actually enable them to participate in games something not appropriate to PS players ( except the 2 weekly promotions) thus expanding the PS is a better option imo.

                        I'm not actually expecting EA (or indeed most people to desire) to implement these complex real life rules ... hence my compromise suggestion ... simple yet effective, at least in my mind .
                        Arguing with idiots is like playing chess with a pigeon .... No matter how good you are , the bird is going to **** on the board and strut around like it won anyway .

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                        • King Gro23
                          MVP
                          • Jan 2008
                          • 2547

                          #13
                          Re: Injured players counting again 53 man roster

                          Originally posted by jerwoods
                          the ps rules are 6 with any year exp and 10 2 years or less



                          what ea shouild do is make rosters expand in CFM from 53 to 60 and then this way they dont have to change their ps rules


                          They should just program the accurate regulations and rules to the league they a making a “simulation game for”

                          I think it’s crazy to that they don’t even program or follow the guidelines and rules of the game but get to boast the simulation title…
                          No Real penalties, no real challenges or challenge system, no PUP, outdated IR, non updated CBA,

                          Anyways here is a video I will link https://www.youtube.com/live/AQ5pgJ8...vDrOT4N9vzrAB0

                          describing how to operate IR in madden. I believe you can only bring 2 players back per season, maybe that part has changed

                          But you also have to advance a week after they are healed to remove them from IR.

                          So example if it week 7 and Player A has 0 weeks remaining on “injury length”

                          You’ll need to advance to week 8


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