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  • alabamarob
    MVP
    • Nov 2010
    • 3313

    #1

    Problems with defensive settings

    Help defense is much improved but alot of the defensive settings don't work.

    1. Pre-rotate doesn't change when switched from off to on. No one rotates over before the drive.

    2. The off ball gap, leave them, and moderate settings are all the same. Defenders are still guarding non shooters out to the 3 point line even when their off ball defensive setting is set to gap or eave them.

    This greatly hurts the realism of the game because the help defenders are constantly out of position guarding mon shooters.

    Anyone getting these options to trigger?
    Psn: Alabamarob
    Xbox: Alabama Rob

    Youtube: 2k Hawks

    Settings I play on.
    Minutes: 12
    Difficulty: HOF
    Online or Offline player: Both
    In a MLO: Yes
  • ataman5
    MVP
    • Jun 2007
    • 2620

    #2
    Re: Problems with defensive settings

    Have you played with your team help slider Rob?

    From yesterday Vann told it's at 0 and Czar told, it should be 50. Maybe 50 is something more natural and can help with pre rotate and some other stuff.. Just my 2 cents to give it a try. Maybe.

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    • The 24th Letter
      ERA
      • Oct 2007
      • 39373

      #3
      Re: Problems with defensive settings

      Double check Czars post on these, I want to say he spoke on point #2 specifically

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      • alabamarob
        MVP
        • Nov 2010
        • 3313

        #4
        Re: Problems with defensive settings

        Originally posted by ataman5
        Have you played with your team help slider Rob?

        From yesterday Vann told it's at 0 and Czar told, it should be 50. Maybe 50 is something more natural and can help with pre rotate and some other stuff.. Just my 2 cents to give it a try. Maybe.
        The help defense is excellent. That is what the help defense sliders does. I am more talking about defensive positioning before a drive which is what i though the off ball defensive settings are supposed to cover

        Originally posted by The 24th Letter
        Double check Czars post on these, I want to say he spoke on point #2 specifically
        I will look again right now.
        Psn: Alabamarob
        Xbox: Alabama Rob

        Youtube: 2k Hawks

        Settings I play on.
        Minutes: 12
        Difficulty: HOF
        Online or Offline player: Both
        In a MLO: Yes

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        • ataman5
          MVP
          • Jun 2007
          • 2620

          #5
          Re: Problems with defensive settings

          Originally posted by alabamarob
          The help defense is excellent. That is what the help defense sliders does. I am more talking about defensive positioning before a drive which is what i though the off ball defensive settings are supposed to cover



          I will look again right now.
          Yea I know it is which is awesome but what i mean is maybe the configuration of help slider trigger each other and Czar talked about this so maybe that setting in a way help trigger a setting in those modeifications you want, what i meant.

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          • cvantu
            Banned
            • Oct 2016
            • 353

            #6
            Re: Problems with defensive settings

            I set my left bumper to help rather than double team. It works well.

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            • xCoachDx
              MVP
              • Aug 2015
              • 1295

              #7
              Re: Problems with defensive settings

              They said last year that many of the options in the coach settings weren’t actually in the game but they didn’t have time to go through and do a new menu. Are we in this boat all over again?

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              • Da_Czar
                NBA 2K Gameplay Producer, Offensive AI System - SIM NATION
                • Jul 2002
                • 5408

                #8
                Re: Problems with defensive settings

                Originally posted by alabamarob
                Help defense is much improved but alot of the defensive settings don't work.

                1. Pre-rotate doesn't change when switched from off to on. No one rotates over before the drive.

                2. The off ball gap, leave them, and moderate settings are all the same. Defenders are still guarding non shooters out to the 3 point line even when their off ball defensive setting is set to gap or eave them.

                This greatly hurts the realism of the game because the help defenders are constantly out of position guarding mon shooters.

                Anyone getting these options to trigger?
                I'm pretty sure there is a difference between leave/gap and moderate. Leave and gap may be close but usually there is at least a 4-5 foot difference between moderate and leave. I will need to check but that doesn't sound right off top unless there is a bug. I will admit leave may not be as far as you want it.
                Catch me on that #SimNation #SimHangOut Friday's @ 10:00 pm est https://www.youtube.com/playlist?lis...N7yxMiElOpMl_B

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                • Da_Czar
                  NBA 2K Gameplay Producer, Offensive AI System - SIM NATION
                  • Jul 2002
                  • 5408

                  #9
                  Re: Problems with defensive settings

                  Originally posted by Da_Czar
                  I'm pretty sure there is a difference between leave/gap and moderate. Leave and gap may be close but usually there is at least a 4-5 foot difference between moderate and leave. I will need to check but that doesn't sound right off top unless there is a bug. I will admit leave may not be as far as you want it.
                  The data and what is in game in not matching up. I will have to look into this one. Thank you.
                  Catch me on that #SimNation #SimHangOut Friday's @ 10:00 pm est https://www.youtube.com/playlist?lis...N7yxMiElOpMl_B

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                  • rjohns23
                    Pro
                    • Sep 2010
                    • 656

                    #10
                    Re: Problems with defensive settings

                    Originally posted by Da_Czar
                    I'm pretty sure there is a difference between leave/gap and moderate. Leave and gap may be close but usually there is at least a 4-5 foot difference between moderate and leave. I will need to check but that doesn't sound right off top unless there is a bug. I will admit leave may not be as far as you want it.
                    Is this just for next gen or is it for current (specifically PC) as well?

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                    • jk31
                      MVP
                      • Sep 2014
                      • 2650

                      #11
                      Re: Problems with defensive settings

                      Originally posted by alabamarob
                      Help defense is much improved but alot of the defensive settings don't work.

                      1. Pre-rotate doesn't change when switched from off to on. No one rotates over before the drive.

                      2. The off ball gap, leave them, and moderate settings are all the same. Defenders are still guarding non shooters out to the 3 point line even when their off ball defensive setting is set to gap or eave them.

                      This greatly hurts the realism of the game because the help defenders are constantly out of position guarding mon shooters.

                      Anyone getting these options to trigger?

                      so basically nothing changed compared to 2k22? it was the same there, too.




                      question: is the cut help rules setting not there for old gen (pc)? i cannot seem to find it.

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                      • xCoachDx
                        MVP
                        • Aug 2015
                        • 1295

                        #12
                        Re: Problems with defensive settings

                        Originally posted by Da_Czar
                        The data and what is in game in not matching up. I will have to look into this one. Thank you.

                        Thanks for checking in and leaving feedback for us.

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                        • Sam I am
                          Rookie
                          • May 2014
                          • 102

                          #13
                          Re: Problems with defensive settings

                          Originally posted by xCoachDx
                          Thanks for checking in and leaving feedback for us.
                          Bug (Be Specific): when setting plays in offensive settings, 1 it doubles for the bench & #2 it reverts back to the old quick plays. Also when subbing some players aren't showing up & sometimes when trying to sub the center
                          the a button above him disappears in a time out & on the fly coaching
                          Game Mode Experienced In: PNO

                          Can you reproduce it? Yes How?: Every time you edit your lineup. THis happens to me also

                          Video/Picture of Bug (attach to post or link to media): N/A[/QUOTE tried to post in the bugs & issues, but it said it was too short.

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                          • spinoff
                            Rookie
                            • Sep 2020
                            • 117

                            #14
                            Re: Problems with defensive settings

                            Originally posted by alabamarob
                            Help defense is much improved but alot of the defensive settings don't work.
                            (...)
                            The defensive parameters do not change anything? The offensive parameters too! Is it a 2k placebo?
                            The parameters are more buggy than last year. Even when you disable ACE you can't choose your offensive strategy. You can't even choose a tactic in the playbook in a match.

                            There are some nice improvements this year, but these flaws are unforgivable for me. I am terribly disappointed

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                            • bamalam
                              MVP
                              • Nov 2002
                              • 1407

                              #15
                              Re: Problems with defensive settings

                              Could be user error on my end -I haven’t kept up in last few years with all the details-
                              Can defensive settings be saved outside of each game?
                              They keep getting reset to automatic during games as well, so I am constantly resetting them at timeouts
                              ACE is off if that matters
                              Xbox series x version
                              Same issue in all era Modes so far

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