Madden NFL 18 on the Frostbite Engine: Reactions

[brandon27]

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I can vouch for Birdman. If he says they've been working on this for 2 years then it's true.

And another misconception I think some people have is that this is a complete rebuild. I am 99.9% sure that is not the case. I think what we will see will still look like Madden and play like Madden. They will just have more freedom in this engine to enhance parts of the game that they really couldn't address to the extent they wanted to with Ignite.

That's what I was thinking, because as I spent some more time with Fifa 17 last week and this weekend I noticed, the core part of the game, the menus, the front end of the career/franchise mode etc was exactly as it's always been as far as I could tell. Nothing on that end changed. It's not like features of it got left out in the engine switch, they all appear intact. I really didn't notice much difference in the gameplay on the field either, aside from much improved visuals and lighting.


I just don't think this switch will be a major inconvenience at all, but I'm sure every little molehill will get turned into a mountain and blamed on frostbite.

[roadman]

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That's what I was thinking, because as I spent some more time with Fifa 17 last week and this weekend I noticed, the core part of the game, the menus, the front end of the career/franchise mode etc was exactly as it's always been as far as I could tell. Nothing on that end changed. It's not like features of it got left out in the engine switch, they all appear intact. I really didn't notice much difference in the gameplay on the field either, aside from much improved visuals and lighting.


I just don't think this switch will be a major inconvenience at all, but I'm sure every little molehill will get turned into a mountain and blamed on frostbite.

Or Madden. lol.......

[cable guy]

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Or Madden. lol.......

Omg I can just imagine next year on these forums!

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[roadman]

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Omg I can just imagine next year on these forums!

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Yeah, the team needs to enhance and improve upon this version and bring the nuts and bolts along with it.

[BleedGreen710]

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I'm excited for it. I think the game needs a big shakeup. Just hope that some of the things they've got right in madden 17 won't go back to square one when they switch engines. They have made some good progress.

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[SteelD34KC]

Im excited, Frostbite has been out for a good long while. When battlefield first used it the player models, animations, sounds and effects were leagues ahead of all the other games I was playing at the time.

Just please EA, listen to us, your avid players and streamers and MUTers and CFMers. Dont do to us what you have been doing for years. Taking something out, then a few years later putting it back in as a brand new and amazing feature. Were not idiots.

All in all Im very excited to see what it can do.

And to the poster who was talking about not knowing much about Frostbite. Well it has better open ends on the animation coding, so we SHOULD see better planting, movement and "Free'er err er" animations. AKA no more canned CB/WR animations. At least thats what they have touted the engine can do for years upon years that it has been out.

[BSDShoes]

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I'm all for Madden going with Frostbite as long as they bring back coin toss and get rid of the horrible hold button to skip cut scenes, FIFA 17 looks pretty good with it (although lighting in some stadiums are bad).

[jfsolo]

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Im excited, Frostbite has been out for a good long while. When battlefield first used it the player models, animations, sounds and effects were leagues ahead of all the other games I was playing at the time.

Just please EA, listen to us, your avid players and streamers and MUTers and CFMers. Dont do to us what you have been doing for years. Taking something out, then a few years later putting it back in as a brand new and amazing feature. Were not idiots.

All in all Im very excited to see what it can do.

And to the poster who was talking about not knowing much about Frostbite. Well it has better open ends on the animation coding, so we SHOULD see better planting, movement and "Free'er err er" animations. AKA no more canned CB/WR animations. At least thats what they have touted the engine can do for years upon years that it has been out.

I'm hoping that the Dice team whose whole job is to optimize Frostbite for various games, can work some magic while working with the Tiburon team in terms of movement, interactions, and animations, because we know that those things have been Madden's Achilles Heel forever.

[Mr.Pick6]

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I'm excited for it. I think the game needs a big shakeup. Just hope that some of the things they've got right in madden 17 won't go back to square one when they switch engines. They have made some good progress.

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In my opinion, EA should have continued in the same direction from 17 going into 18 and continue to work with the new engine behind it introducing it into 19. 15 was Ok. My first introduction to Madden on next gen. 16 I stayed away from watching gameplay. I bought the EA access trial and got to try 16 and was right about just sticking with 15 but when I finally got to try 17, I was blown away by the improvements and gameplay headed toward a more realistic football game and immediately bought the game right after. Basically I hope 18 on the new engine continues to build off 17 but I would have bought 18 if it was still on the same engine if it continued to refine and improved what 17 was. Looks like I will be buying another EA access trial again this year.

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[jfsolo]

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– The Need for Speed team helped with the Nomand, but they also got help from the PGA Tour (you know, golf) team with 'environments and the quality of the vegetation of the grass'.

– DICE (the company that created Frostbite, the game's engine) helped too, they pitched in with the AI (since the AI in Battlefield is used to sandbox design).

– Frostbite was designed for FPS, which helps to make combat more spectacular than in the trilogy.

– Even the FIFA team helped! ME:A is using animation systems from the football game. 'It really goes both ways.'

– The FIFA expertise came in handy because for the first time ever BioWare did 'full perfomance capture'. So they captured the movement of multiple actors at the same time. And since people can change gender and party member, they had to re-record those scenes over and over in different combinations.

A few quotes about how Dice and other Frostbite using EA teams helped Bioware with aspects of Mass Effect Andromeda. So hopefully various teams are adding their expertise in Frostbite to Madden 18.

[Steelers4190]

Will it fix the simulation issues with the game? There should be more than 3 teams that give up less than 350 points in a season....

[mestevo]

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Will it fix the simulation issues with the game? There should be more than 3 teams that give up less than 350 points in a season....

That's like asking if an oil change will fix a cracked windshield. Not really in the scope of this change.

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[Slim4824]

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In my opinion, EA should have continued in the same direction from 17 going into 18 and continue to work with the new engine behind it introducing it into 19. 15 was Ok. My first introduction to Madden on next gen. 16 I stayed away from watching gameplay. I bought the EA access trial and got to try 16 and was right about just sticking with 15 but when I finally got to try 17, I was blown away by the improvements and gameplay headed toward a more realistic football game and immediately bought the game right after. Basically I hope 18 on the new engine continues to build off 17 but I would have bought 18 if it was still on the same engine if it continued to refine and improved what 17 was. Looks like I will be buying another EA access trial again this year.

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They have been working on it for a couple years already

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[Skyboxer]

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There's a lot this game needs fixed/better that Frostbite has zero to do with.
I just hope those are addressed.

[ChristonKirby]

Is it possible for them to implement all of the cleats and their color ways from FIFA 17 into Madden?